Soarin' Expansion and new Soarin' Around the World film

[Bocabear]

I still think adding only 1 additional theater isn't enough.

This attraction really needs to double its capacity. .

How many hundreds of guests daily simply abandon a visit to Soarin simply because of wait times? How many riders would love to hop off the ride and immediately hop back in line?

I have a feeling that adding another theater will reduce wait times by 10% at the most. Doubling capacity would only drop wait times by 25%.

The ride already does the worst job of predicting wait times. Any time it drops below 60 minutes, guest flood to it and the queue backs up to the last turn. That is a 2-2.5 hour wait. When those guests finally turn in their red flick cards, the wait time is 165 minutes but the actual wait is 45 because nobody gets in line when it is 165 minutes.

And stop spewing that another ride or two would make guests simply not want to experience Soarin'. That is the dumbest argument to solve the low capacity issues of Soarin, TSMM, and 7DMT. These top attractions have a demand to them that simply isn't being met.

I wasn't spewing the argument, merely stating a fact... Yes! Soarin' is a wonderful attraction that everyone wants to experience, but when a park closes attractions without replacement, all of the existing attractions will become more crowded... I truly believe that if WOL had not been closed but updated with fresh attractions, Imagination had been overhauled properly, and the planned attractions for Future World had been built, the need for more theaters would not exist...Sure Soarin' is a great attraction, but with so much to do, you may not feel cheated by not getting on it every time you visit the park...
Much like DHS... continue to close attractions then add another track to TSMM. Wouldn't you rather see that money spent on a new attraction?

 

[marni1971]

And stop spewing that another ride or two would make guests simply not want to experience Soarin'. That is the dumbest argument to solve the low capacity issues of Soarin, TSMM, and 7DMT. These top attractions have a demand to them that simply isn't being met.

It's not dumb.

If the people eaters of Energy and Imagination were must-do E tickets the load would be spread more evenly. Not to mention TDO screwed up TSMs figures by adding Fastpass to an attraction that wasn't designed for it.

 

[RSoxNo1]

It's not dumb.

If the people eaters of Energy and Imagination were must-do E tickets the load would be spread more evenly. Not to mention TDO screwed up TSMs figures by adding Fastpass to an attraction that wasn't designed for it.

Adding more high demand attractions will help with crowds at Soarin', TSMM and Test Track, but it doesn't entirely solve the problem. Those three attractions were under built capacity wise. There are two issues here: The parks are under built and those specific rides are under built. The under built parks are the greater problem, but it doesn't mean the under built rides is not a problem.

 

[marni1971]

Adding more high demand attractions will help with crowds at Soarin', TSMM and Test Track, but it doesn't entirely solve the problem. Those three attractions were under built capacity wise. There are two issues here: The parks are under built and those specific rides are under built. The under built parks are the greater problem, but it doesn't mean the under built rides is not a problem.

Indeed. Although I wouldn't call those parks under built. More like neglected.

And like I said the OP wasn't dumb.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Indeed. Although I wouldn't call those parks under built. More like neglected.

And like I said the OP wasn't dumb.

From an attraction lineup standpoint I would call them under built.

 

[JimboJones123]

High demand attractions need to people to turn omnimover levels of bodies through the attractions.

When the most popular attractions at a park can only handle a fraction of daily guest to that given Park, the park and attraction are broken.

 

[HauntedMansionFLA]

It's not dumb.

If the people eaters of Energy and Imagination were must-do E tickets the load would be spread more evenly. Not to mention TDO screwed up TSMs figures by adding Fastpass to an attraction that wasn't designed for it.

What could they do to make those two attractions to E tickets?

 

[marni1971]

From an attraction lineup standpoint I would call them under built.

That's the thing.

Both parks have had a time period when they weren't underdeveloped.

 

[matt9112]

What could they do to make those two attractions to E tickets?

explosives......

 

[danlb_2000]

What could they do to make those two attractions to E tickets?

Frozen.

 

[HauntedMansionFLA]

Frozen.

And Star Wars - perfect combination

 

[RSoxNo1]

That's the thing.

Both parks have had a time period when they weren't underdeveloped.

I think we're arguing the same thing, we're just calling it something different. As a result of the neglect, the parks are now under built.

 

[marni1971]

I think we're arguing the same thing, we're just calling it something different. As a result of the neglect, the parks are now under built.

Indeedy doo dar.

 

[marni1971]

What could they do to make those two attractions to E tickets?

I won't turn this into an imagineering thread, but there were plans for both pavilions to return to the grand scale of their original versions with all the drama, audio and visual effects and sheer brilliance that they once had. Adjusted for more modern day expectations and audiences. Needless to say they took the cheaper option.

 

[HauntedMansionFLA]

I won't turn this into an imagineering thread, but there were plans for both pavilions to return to the grand scale of their original versions with all the drama, audio and visual effects and sheer brilliance that they once had. Adjusted for more modern day expectations and audiences. Needless to say they took the cheaper option.

Interesting and disappointing - too bad they didn't go the grand scale. That's the frustrating thing about EPCOT. It has so much potential.

 

[marni1971]

Interesting and disappointing - too bad they didn't go the grand scale. That's the frustrating thing about EPCOT. It has so much potential.

Indeed it has. And absolutely is.

I'll just leave this here:

 

[Mike S]

Indeed it has. And absolutely is.

I'll just leave this here:

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Omg.........

 

[P_Radden]

Indeed it has. And absolutely is.

I'll just leave this here:

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Why must you post such things! Images of what Epcot could be stir up deep emotions I cant do anything about! God that looks cool!!!!

 

[Haymarket2008]

I won't turn this into an imagineering thread, but there were plans for both pavilions to return to the grand scale of their original versions with all the drama, audio and visual effects and sheer brilliance that they once had. Adjusted for more modern day expectations and audiences. Needless to say they took the cheaper option.

Any chance these plans are still on the table for future use? They're desperately needed.

 

[MMouse1972]

Indeed it has. And absolutely is.

I'll just leave this here:

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Wow, that's amazing!

Not to hijack this thread, but what was the "concept" or "theme" for this makeover?

Is Ellen in the big ball somewhere ?