So what changes will we see at DHS GE based on DL GE?

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Galaxy’s Edge is one of the most immersive lands ever built. It delivers exactly what I want is it perfect, no nothing is. The land is certainly quality that is apparent from everything I’ve seen. You can’t deny the detail.

Ok.

But is it a fun land? Does it make you happy? Is it something that will build emotional ties?

And frankly...does it make up for Disney’s IP mistakes?

I think this has brought a fundamental question: is the goal “immersion” if they sacrifice the other two?

You've been already?

I will be in a few weeks...though I haven’t decided if I want to even go in? I can’t honestly understand that nagging sentiment.

 

[Mickeyboof]

Another thread is showing some changes in color.

Although the painting process when weathering something is so layered it’s hard to tell if the land will have more color, or if we are seeing a step in the process.

I hope it does have a splash more color!

 

[Ravenclaw78]

And frankly...does it make up for Disney’s IP mistakes?

That seems like an unfair expectation. For better or worse, Lucasfilm and the directors they hired have chosen a direction forward, and Disney Parks is bound by the story that is being told. No theme park attraction, now matter how immersive, is ever going to be able to "make up for" decisions about any IP that some of the fanbase disagree with.

(Pandora is beautiful and FoP is one of my favorite rides at WDW. It's the closest I've seen to proving me wrong on this point, but its worldbuilding will never be able to erase my opinion that Avatar the movie sucked.)

I will be in a few weeks...though I haven’t decided if I want to even go in? I can’t honestly understand that nagging sentiment.

Not saying you'll be proven wrong, but perhaps the nagging sentiment is that you're at some level afraid that you might be?

 

[Ravenclaw78]

Considering they already have a Tattoine Traders in DHS.

It was a joke. I said as much a couple of posts down from that one.

 

[erasure fan1]

That seems like an unfair expectation. For better or worse, Lucasfilm and the directors they hired have chosen a direction forward, and Disney Parks is bound by the story that is being told.

I don't really agree. There is no reason they have to be bound by the direction of the sequels. If they made a more OT centric land it would be just fine. Why? For the same reason the land will be fine once 9 comes out and renders the land out of the time line.

 

[Ravenclaw78]

I don't really agree. There is no reason they have to be bound by the direction of the sequels. If they made a more OT centric land it would be just fine. Why? For the same reason the land will be fine once 9 comes out and renders the land out of the time line.

There's a difference between "I wish they'd set the land in the OT" and expecting the land to actually undo the sequels. Besides, Parks *is* bound by it. If they have a Star Wars land without Rey, they'll upset far more of their target demographic (millennials and GenX with their kids) than the small but overly vocal group of fans that hates all things Star Wars except when they don't. Millennials grew up with the Prequel trilogy, and kids of Millennials and GenX'ers are growing up with the Sequel trilogy. Like it or not, they've got far less attachment to the original trilogy than the over-40 crowd.

 

[GoPatriots19]

I like how DHS SWGE does seem to have a denser forest. Also with there being more space width wise at DHS there are more curves on the path and helps divide the forest area from the Market area better which I like. After visiting DLR Galaxy's Edge these are two things that I Immediately thought would be better if they had the space for it. The land is super cool though and very detailed. Putting some more entertainment I think would put it over the edge.. Oh yeah and those added splashes of color look good from the aerials.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Personally, I think it will automatically work better in DHS as it actually belongs there. It clashes terribly with the theme and aesthetic of Disneyland while it will fit in just fine at DHS. In my opinion, ideally cars land would have been built on the SWGE plot at DL (not as a separate land but rather an extension of Frontierland) and SWGE in DCA where even MFSR would likely be viewed as the best ride in the park. In the end I think SWGE improves DHS but not DL. RotR is also a smart pick for WDSP.

 

[drod1985]

Here's a change we'll see at DHS: prices.

Rey and Vader Legacy lightsabers sold out during the reservation period. This weekend they returned...with $20 price increases ($109.99 to $129.99). Luke's ROTJ saber also increased by $10 ($129.99 to $139.99).

Sucks DHS never even got a shot at the original prices.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

You really think that was the long term plan.... to build a billion dollar land and keep a cheap meet and greet open in a long closed and outdated attraction at the other side of the park? (That goes for both coasts).

 

[bclane]

I would like to see the OT characters in Batuu as well and I think they could make it fit by doing a war museum attraction (expansion to the land) where the old hero characters are presented as rebel scum and Vader and the like are presented as the heroes of the Empire. It could be the First Order doing a kind of propaganda thing to sign up new recruits. I think that would tie things together nicely and allow the OT characters to be present without breaking the story or time period. For the ride, how about a re-enactment of a famous space battle where you can choose to either pilot an X-wing or a TIE fighter (roller coaster or rethemed FoP clone could work)?

 

[doctornick]

I would like to see the OT characters in Batuu as well and I think they could make it fit by doing a war museum attraction (expansion to the land) where the old hero characters are presented as rebel scum and Vader and the like are presented as the heroes of the Empire. It could be the First Order doing a kind of propaganda thing to sign up new recruits. I think that would tie things together nicely and allow the OT characters to be present without breaking the story or time period. For the ride, how about a re-enactment of a famous space battle where you can choose to either pilot an X-wing or a TIE fighter (roller coaster or rethemed FoP clone could work)?

I was thinking about this as well. In addition to no representation of the OT, I think another potential "failing" with the land if the lack of Jedi. So this is something I came up with...

Side note before I begin: one of the good things about using the ST as the setting for Galaxy's Edge is that you can always include elements of the OT (and PT) because they are historical for the land. So, referring to those time periods works (as some of the merch sold does. It gets much trickier the time frame of the land was the OT since any use of the ST events/characters would not make any sense. The setting chosen is the most flexible for that reasons. Anyway....

I'd like to see some sort of "Force sensitive" area where guests could go. I'm thinking a backstory like there is a deposit of Kyber crystals in this area. There could be some sort of guide/host there - could be a hermit Jedi or maybe could be a Guardians of the Whills (like Chirrutt in Rogue One). In that area, there could be some sort of "dark side cave" like on Dagobah which would offer the opportunity to encounter Vader or Darth Maul via manifestation from the Force. Or there can be sometime like Jedi Training there that could feature them. Similarly, you could have a Light Side equivalent where perhaps you could meet the Force Ghost of Yoda or Obi-Wan (or maybe Luke depending on Ep IX). I think such an area would also provide some potential to have people "use the force' in some capacity - or at least have levitating rocks and such.

 

[erasure fan1]

I was thinking about this as well. In addition to no representation of the OT, I think another potential "failing" with the land if the lack of Jedi. So this is something I came up with...

Side note before I begin: one of the good things about using the ST as the setting for Galaxy's Edge is that you can always include elements of the OT (and PT) because they are historical for the land. So, referring to those time periods works (as some of the merch sold does. It gets much trickier the time frame of the land was the OT since any use of the ST events/characters would not make any sense. The setting chosen is the most flexible for that reasons. Anyway....

I'd like to see some sort of "Force sensitive" area where guests could go. I'm thinking a backstory like there is a deposit of Kyber crystals in this area. There could be some sort of guide/host there - could be a hermit Jedi or maybe could be a Guardians of the Whills (like Chirrutt in Rogue One). In that area, there could be some sort of "dark side cave" like on Dagobah which would offer the opportunity to encounter Vader or Darth Maul via manifestation from the Force. Or there can be sometime like Jedi Training there that could feature them. Similarly, you could have a Light Side equivalent where perhaps you could meet the Force Ghost of Yoda or Obi-Wan (or maybe Luke depending on Ep IX). I think such an area would also provide some potential to have people "use the force' in some capacity - or at least have levitating rocks and such.

There's a hundred ways they could have included the original trilogy and even things from the prequels. But they decided not to because they want only Disney star wars. Too many people think because you want OT characters, you somehow hate everything else. The SMART thing to do, is include ALL the fans. The ones who love the prequels, the ones who love the OT and the ones who love the TV shows. It's only out of pride that this didn't happen.

 

[drod1985]

There's a hundred ways they could have included the original trilogy and even things from the prequels. But they decided not to because they want only Disney star wars. Too many people think because you want OT characters, you somehow hate everything else. The SMART thing to do, is include ALL the fans. The ones who love the prequels, the ones who love the OT and the ones who love the TV shows. It's only out of pride that this didn't happen.

If they "want only Disney star wars" then please explain the amazingly well produced series of shorts that are intended specifically at engaging younger audiences with the OT characters.

And all eras and mediums are represented via merch and Easter Eggs throughout the land. The props in Dok Ondar's alone are a love letter to the OT, PT and expanded universe.

It wasn't pride or an agenda that drove the decision to set this in the ST. It was a creative and logistical choice.

 

[Ravenclaw78]

Apparently only theme park rides and golden retrievers are safe topics for honest discussion.

Probably only golden retrievers are safe. Maybe not even them.

 

[bclane]

I was thinking about this as well. In addition to no representation of the OT, I think another potential "failing" with the land if the lack of Jedi. So this is something I came up with...

Side note before I begin: one of the good things about using the ST as the setting for Galaxy's Edge is that you can always include elements of the OT (and PT) because they are historical for the land. So, referring to those time periods works (as some of the merch sold does. It gets much trickier the time frame of the land was the OT since any use of the ST events/characters would not make any sense. The setting chosen is the most flexible for that reasons. Anyway....

I'd like to see some sort of "Force sensitive" area where guests could go. I'm thinking a backstory like there is a deposit of Kyber crystals in this area. There could be some sort of guide/host there - could be a hermit Jedi or maybe could be a Guardians of the Whills (like Chirrutt in Rogue One). In that area, there could be some sort of "dark side cave" like on Dagobah which would offer the opportunity to encounter Vader or Darth Maul via manifestation from the Force. Or there can be sometime like Jedi Training there that could feature them. Similarly, you could have a Light Side equivalent where perhaps you could meet the Force Ghost of Yoda or Obi-Wan (or maybe Luke depending on Ep IX). I think such an area would also provide some potential to have people "use the force' in some capacity - or at least have levitating rocks and such.

I love it. Someone call Mickey and put a bug in his ear!

 

[erasure fan1]

If they "want only Disney star wars" then please explain the amazingly well produced series of shorts that are intended specifically at engaging younger audiences with the OT characters.

And all eras and mediums are represented via merch and Easter Eggs throughout the land. The props in Dok Ondar's alone are a love letter to the OT, PT and expanded universe.

It wasn't pride or an agenda that drove the decision to set this in the ST. It was a creative and logistical choice.

Logical choice to you maybe. If you really think that a few things to buy constitutes OT representation, I can't agree with you. While seeing a helmet from a trooper from the forest moon is cool, its really poor representation. And really? The youtube shorts are your defense? And if they pull the kids in with these awesome shorts, how smart is it to not have that represented at the land? Sorry but again I don't agree. Tell me this. Why is it that when someone brings up including all the fans, it turns into Disney can do no wrong, the OT fans are dying and becoming the minority, the sequels are the only thing that makes sense... The smart money is inclusion. What pixie duster Disney apologists fail to see, is some of us want everything represented, not just one part.

 

[drod1985]

I'm going to try to keep this is context of changes we'd potentially see at DHS' version of GE, even though none of this is remotely possible.

The smart money is inclusion. What pixie duster Disney apologists fail to see, is some of us want everything represented, not just one part.

I'm addressing this one up top because it applies to the other points. If you want maximum inclusion and you want continuity in the land then your land has to be set in the most modern/recent time possible. If GE was set in the PT then there'd be no OT or ST inclusion. If it was set in the OT then there'd be no ST inclusion. By setting the land in the ST they are then allowed to pull from all corners of canon's past.

The Falcon is the centerpeice of the land - it made its debut and was most central to the OT. The Cantina is obviously a homage to ANH. OT style droids are more represented than ST style droids. There's a X-34 Landspeeder like Luke's. All the trooper and ship designs are riffs of the OT. The only representation the OT is missing face characters, which more often than not are poorly executed.

And really? The youtube shorts are your defense? And if they pull the kids in with these awesome shorts, how smart is it to not have that represented at the land?

The shorts are one example. If you'd like one of more significance then how about Rogue One - a movie designed to make everybody want to go home and rewatch ANH?

Why is it that when someone brings up including all the fans, it turns into Disney can do no wrong, the OT fans are dying and becoming the minority, the sequels are the only thing that makes sense...

Well, I never did say any of that, did I? I've listed my gripes and grievances with GE before, and I have plenty with Lucasfilm as a whole. I just don't think setting the land in the ST was a mistake, I think it was the most logical choice.

 

[Rogue1138]

Logical choice to you maybe. If you really think that a few things to buy constitutes OT representation, I can't agree with you. While seeing a helmet from a trooper from the forest moon is cool, its really poor representation. And really? The youtube shorts are your defense? And if they pull the kids in with these awesome shorts, how smart is it to not have that represented at the land? Sorry but again I don't agree. Tell me this. Why is it that when someone brings up including all the fans, it turns into Disney can do no wrong, the OT fans are dying and becoming the minority, the sequels are the only thing that makes sense... The smart money is inclusion. What pixie duster Disney apologists fail to see, is some of us want everything represented, not just one part.

You can't have full representation of a series of films that not only bridged decades in film release buy decades of in universe continuity. At that point, it's not immersive, it's just an IP blitz (which people drone on here endlessly against). Lucasfilm has had their issues, especially with marketing, but they have literally catered to every generation. You have the OT characters in the Sequels, Rogue One is a direct prequel to A New Hope. Solo was focusing on an OT character. You have new Clone Wars cartoons and a HUGE Prequel resurgence push right now. Unless the toys are tied into a upcoming movie, everything released is for the previous films.

Original Star Wars fans are not the target demographic anymore. I'm at the young end of the spectrum but you're looking at the original fans now between 40-55. Prequel fans are the sweet spot now but those movies were just as divisive as the Sequels (watch People Vs George Lucas to see how nothing changed) so it makes sense to go with the Sequels. We're at the prime marketing range for Prequels but that's tailing off. Sequels will be relevant for the next several years. They were wildly successful movies that were highly critically acclaimed. Only is Rise of Skywalker is a huge bomb, will they possibly made a mistake.

 

[doctornick]

You can't have full representation of a series of films that not only bridged decades in film release buy decades of in universe continuity. At that point, it's not immersive, it's just an IP blitz (which people drone on here endlessly against). Lucasfilm has had their issues, especially with marketing, but they have literally catered to every generation. You have the OT characters in the Sequels, Rogue One is a direct prequel to A New Hope. Solo was focusing on an OT character. You have new Clone Wars cartoons and a HUGE Prequel resurgence push right now. Unless the toys are tied into a upcoming movie, everything released is for the previous films.

Also The Mandalorian is taking place just after ROTJ.

I'm addressing this one up top because it applies to the other points. If you want maximum inclusion and you want continuity in the land then your land has to be set in the most modern/recent time possible. If GE was set in the PT then there'd be no OT or ST inclusion. If it was set in the OT then there'd be no ST inclusion. By setting the land in the ST they are then allowed to pull from all corners of canon's past.

Exactly this and a point I tried to make earlier but might have been lost in my verbose posting.