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Shaman
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Originally posted by DMC-12
Yes... because all smokers put there cigs out in CM's eyes and other body parts when approached. :lol: :hammer:
:lol: Nooo...I think its just some....a tiny number...maybe the size of a cig :lookaroun...nowadays anything is possible I guess....
Concerning the question of choice ('It's my choice to smoke, yours not to smoke') does that make it right?
My personal belief is your rights end where mine start. So if your choice can potentially infringe on my health, I do have a problem with that, and don't think of your choice as a right anymore. We don't want people to choose to bring other potentially damaging things into the park (arsenic, aesbestos, chloroform, heroin, etc.) so why nicotine?
As for making smokers 'Second-Class Citizens, and moving them to the back of the bus' smoking is a choice, not a characteristic. If you are trying to compare smoking to race or gender, you have a problem....
(my 2 cents worth)
My personal belief is your rights end where mine start. So if your choice can potentially infringe on my health, I do have a problem with that, and don't think of your choice as a right anymore. We don't want people to choose to bring other potentially damaging things into the park (arsenic, aesbestos, chloroform, heroin, etc.) so why nicotine?
As for making smokers 'Second-Class Citizens, and moving them to the back of the bus' smoking is a choice, not a characteristic. If you are trying to compare smoking to race or gender, you have a problem....
(my 2 cents worth)
MichRX7
Premium Member
This is such a rediculous argument. Smokers (for the most part) are not running out into the park, grabbing you and holding you directly above the smoking area to take about 5,000,000 whiffs of their smoke and kill you (which would be a crime btw).
Here's some tips:
1. Don't walk through the smoking area if you don't want to breathe in the 2nd hand smoke.
2. You have the right to walk through the smoking area, but wouldn't it be a bit silly to think someone was infringing on your rights because you can't read a map or look for smoking area signs?
Now for those who smoke outside of designated areas:
1. Go back to school, learn how to read or how to make intelligent decisions based on picture/signs and quit smoking where you've been told not too.
2. Don't whine and complain when very large security guards ask you to stop smoking until you are standing in a designated smoking area (if you can't find them, refer to step 1).
3. Don't call your lawyer when security guards in step 2 throw you out of the park and tear up your tickets.
As for comparing arsenic, aesbestos, chloroform, heroin, etc to 2nd hand smoke...no comment I mean honestly, how much 2nd hand smoke could you swallow compared to any of those substances and still live?
And really, science can't even explain everyone's systems. No one has proven death from 2nd hand smoke. I really think nicotine and tobacco helped George Burns live longer, lol... The human body is an amazing machine with a built-in filtration system.
Having said all of that I'd say this whole argument comes down to common sense. Don't go into smoking areas if you are a non-smoker and don't smoke outside of these areas if you are a smoker.
BRILLIANT! Maybe I should take on more of the world's more pressing issues like third world hunger, etc...
Here's some tips:
1. Don't walk through the smoking area if you don't want to breathe in the 2nd hand smoke.
2. You have the right to walk through the smoking area, but wouldn't it be a bit silly to think someone was infringing on your rights because you can't read a map or look for smoking area signs?
Now for those who smoke outside of designated areas:
1. Go back to school, learn how to read or how to make intelligent decisions based on picture/signs and quit smoking where you've been told not too.
2. Don't whine and complain when very large security guards ask you to stop smoking until you are standing in a designated smoking area (if you can't find them, refer to step 1).
3. Don't call your lawyer when security guards in step 2 throw you out of the park and tear up your tickets.
As for comparing arsenic, aesbestos, chloroform, heroin, etc to 2nd hand smoke...no comment
I mean honestly, how much 2nd hand smoke could you swallow compared to any of those substances and still live?And really, science can't even explain everyone's systems. No one has proven death from 2nd hand smoke. I really think nicotine and tobacco helped George Burns live longer, lol... The human body is an amazing machine with a built-in filtration system.
Having said all of that I'd say this whole argument comes down to common sense. Don't go into smoking areas if you are a non-smoker and don't smoke outside of these areas if you are a smoker.
BRILLIANT! Maybe I should take on more of the world's more pressing issues like third world hunger, etc...
Shaman
Well-Known Member
I agree and partially disagree with some parts...
That being said...I doubt anyone is going to die from being exposed to second hand smoke for seconds...its not like its prolonged or anything...Like someone living with someone who smokes is more at risk than someone walking down the street taking in a whiff of smoke....
*MichelleP*
Member
Probably in really bad taste to make a comment about the Small World rehab here, right?:lookaroun
DMC-12
It's HarmonioUS, NOT HarmoniYOU.
Smoking at WDW story time. ( I do seem to have a lot of these don’t I? lol)
K.. So... I was in the smoking section behind Ye Olde Christmas Shop in the MK one day.... One bitter old women comes walking into the smoking section and starts up a storm " oh God.. why do THESE PEOPLE have to be smoking here!!?? " She screeches to her husband... "They should have there own damn section away from us! "
Me: *points at 'designated smoking area' sign*
The old decrepit loud mouth shut the hell up pretty fast then.
:lol: :lol: :sohappy:
Thats one of my fav stories so far... I have a few more... but they are buried in the other "bash smokers" threads here on the forums. :lol: :wave:
K.. So... I was in the smoking section behind Ye Olde Christmas Shop in the MK one day.... One bitter old women comes walking into the smoking section and starts up a storm " oh God.. why do THESE PEOPLE have to be smoking here!!?? " She screeches to her husband... "They should have there own damn section away from us!
"Me: *points at 'designated smoking area' sign*
The old decrepit loud mouth shut the hell up pretty fast then.
:lol: :lol: :sohappy:
Thats one of my fav stories so far... I have a few more... but they are buried in the other "bash smokers" threads here on the forums. :lol: :wave:
Originally posted by DMC-12
K.. So... I was in the smoking section behind Ye Olde Christmas Shop in the MK one day.... One bitter old women comes walking into the smoking section and starts up a storm " oh God.. why do THESE PEOPLE have to be smoking here!!?? " She screeches to her husband... "They should have there own damn section away from us!
That is my favorite smoking area!
Anyway, I have had run-ins with guests, and I always smoke pretty close to the trash can marked "smoking area". Most of the time, I just point at the can and give the upset guest a "can't you read dumda$$" type look, then I my back to them
Personally, I think smoking is nasty. It is each persons choice though. Some people who do smoke are very careless about it( throwing their cig butts on the ground,etc). I was almost burned by a cig. in the MK, way back when, buy some idiot swinging their hands around in a crowded area cigerette in hand.
*MichelleP*
Member
I had a kid run into me with ice cream once...and got a lap full of ice cream. Therefore, if we are establishing precedents, we need to banish kids and ice cream with the smokers.
It depends if you want your day ruined or not. Are they really bothering you that much that you need to say something? Also, is there someplace you can go to be out of the way of their smoke? Most smokers that ignore the rules of the park are not going to take to well to ppl telling them what to do. If you want to say something, prepare for an arguement.
*MichelleP*
Member
Very true, I would think that would just automatically put people on the offensive.
Yes they bother me, not on account of the smoke. If I have to obey the rules, why don't they. Why do I have to go some other place, because someone is rude and will not obey the rules. It would be different, if they did not have a place to go smoke, but they do. It is not just Disney doing this, the Whole State of Florida has the no smoking rule in public places.