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Rumor Siemens is going to end their sponsorship with the parks - Spaceship Earth and IllumiNations

EvilChameleon

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So a drones segment for the next Illuminations for a downtime period instead of the globe? Trading one technology nightmare for another.
 

Bender123

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The new exit corridor was built in front of the mural in 1986 so who knows.
Based on the photos of the mural being painted and by the artists website, it looks like it wasn't painte in place, but it was initially made in California and shipped to WDW in pieces. I don't know if there is any truth to the rumor, but it was said to have been moved and displayed in WDI offices for some set of time. If anybody would know, I would guess its you, but I hope its true that it still exists somewhere out there in Walt Disney HQ.

That art is a treasure and it would be horrible if its gone forever.
 

wdwgreek

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Just saw an interesting rumour being floated around some friends. I don't lend it much credence or attention, but its always interesting what people come up with.... but they were talking about Doctor Strange inside Spaceship earth now that Siemens is out of the picture? Anyone know where they got that from? or can slap that down for me.
 

atighe42

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Just saw an interesting rumour being floated around some friends. I don't lend it much credence or attention, but its always interesting what people come up with.... but they were talking about Doctor Strange inside Spaceship earth now that Siemens is out of the picture? Anyone know where they got that from? or can slap that down for me.
That seems so beyond the pale. I don't buy it. If that is really the case, that would be the final straw for me.
 

wdwgreek

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That seems so beyond the pale. I don't buy it. If that is really the case, that would be the final straw for me.
yes beyond the pale for sure, but would you be surprised from IPcot. Imagine all the projections, but for real. It would be a final straw for me too.
 
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bclane

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That seems so beyond the pale. I don't buy it. If that is really the case, that would be the final straw for me.
I don't believe Disney is that dumb. I can see them tossing a Star Wars ride in there at some point, but Dr Strange? I just don't believe it. Since they are your friends, you should ask them for their source.
 

atighe42

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yes beyond the pale for sure, but would you be surprised from IPcot. Imagine all the projections, but for real. It would be a final straw for me too.
I don't know........that specifically would surprise me from IPcot. Guardians has a semblance of a connection to Epcot with him basically being the modern version of Capt EO with "space" and all. Weak, but not as offensive as Dr. Strange in SSE. Two different ballparks. But that just.....wouldn't work. Especially since many, many people in high positions have a great respect for SSE, I don't see it being bastardized in that way.. I don't see them going postal on the park's flagship attraction with a trans-dimensional fighting monk.
 

sedati

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I don't fear the strange. In fact, I think that property could make for an amazing attraction. But I don't think beyond both dealing with time that Spaceship Earth would make a good fit for either party. That said, if Tower of Terror must lose its current IP, then that's my choice over Guardians.
 

MisterPenguin

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Just saw an interesting rumour being floated around some friends. I don't lend it much credence or attention, but its always interesting what people come up with.... but they were talking about Doctor Strange inside Spaceship earth now that Siemens is out of the picture? Anyone know where they got that from? or can slap that down for me.
If that was the case, Spirit would have posted a thousand word diatribe condemning every Disney exec to the ninth circle of Hell.

And Martin would have posted a cryptic reference to magic in a terse and dispirited post.

But, in fact, Martin has said that the ride itself in the sphere will be around for at least 5 more years (not that they'll change it, but it's what he seems to be sure of).

And it's certainly not worth anyone's time to get into a lather over such a flimsy rumor.
 

wdwgreek

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If that was the case, Spirit would have posted a thousand word diatribe condemning every Disney exec to the ninth circle of Hell.

And Martin would have posted a cryptic reference to magic in a terse and dispirited post.

But, in fact, Martin has said that the ride itself in the sphere will be around for at least 5 more years (not that they'll change it, but it's what he seems to be sure of).

And it's certainly not worth anyone's time to get into a lather over such a flimsy rumor.
I mean that is MY thinking as well, don't get me wrong, but again It was so out. There I had to drop a comment on it
 

Pixieish

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How long will it take to strip out the Siemens stuff from the ride? I imagine the signs could be removed in a day or 2 but they also need to change the video at the beginning and end of the ride plus some stuff in the post ride exhibit space. Are we looking at a multi-month shut down or just a few days? I ask for selfish reasons. I'll be there in November and since the contract expires in Oct I want to feel out if there's a good chance the ride will be open or closed while I'm there.
Last time Spaceship Earth had a sponsor pull out I seem to recall that signage lingered for a few months before finally disappearing with little or no downtime.

I'm sure Disney is smart enough now to build sponsors into their attractions with some sort of exit strategy should the deal change.
Having been in the sign business (and yes - even doing on-site installs), for the removal/change to signage to take anything more than overnight is shameful. I can install 200 apartment numbers in an afternoon, and since the placement and hardware for mounting already exist, it should really just be a matter of removing one sign and hanging another.
 

Pixieish

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Not quite true, if you really want to know. Everyone on the internet likes to make it seem like Bob and Bob are the only ones making decisions. Iger has so much more to deal with than just the Parks. He weighs in when necessary, and he can send missives if someone else makes a convincing case to do something. In the case of Marvel, of course he wants to make wide use of the IP in the parks. He pushed through a huge deal that he has to answer for. But usually a lot of the decision making is done at a lower level, then brought to him for sign off or input and changes. He didn't say put Guardians in Epcot. He said let's see how we we can make use of this within the parks, Consumer Products, Licensing, etc. Then it's up to WDI and Chapek's group to figure out where things fit - literally - then go back with concepts and ideas, first to the individual parks heads and Bob Chapek, then to Iger. WDI and P&R and multiple other divisions within Disney worked to build a new strategy for Studios over months. It's not a matter of simply being told by an exec to put IPs in. They came up with a strategy, based on input from many parties, including Chapek and Iger, then Chapek and Iger signed off. Disney is a corporation. Decisions are made with the input of many people. Bob and Bob listen to the people they have around them. Attractions are designed and built with lots of people and departments giving input. Sometimes this is good, sometimes it's too many cooks, but it is the way it works.
AMEN. Even in a sign/graphics shop with fewer than 50 employees it works this way.
 
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