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erasure fan1

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All 3 of them.

And that's the point. Avatar had no fans and FoP FP's are the top ticket with long waits a year later.

Add Star Wars fans and stir.

Re: allegedly disgruntled SW fans: they are a bizarre minority to be largely ignored who will have zero negative effect on attendance at the parks.
Exactly. FoP is my inlaws favorite ride, and they don't really care about avatar. If one of the star wars rides is as good or better than FoP, the added fandom alone is going to make things crazier. And if both rides are of FoP quality, look out, the park just might implode on itself. I am not a Harry Potter fan, at all. But I wanted to see wizarding world. So I have no doubt that the same will hold true for star wars. Only on a much larger scale.
 

drizgirl

Well-Known Member
Why would you think that? You bought a ticket for a park, you don't want to go to that park? Buy a ticket for the park you are going to!
Because plans change? Because people change their minds? This is a brilliant example of how inflexible and complicated this new ticketing scheme could make things. It might work without prescheduled FPs, but in combination it has the potential to be a mess for anyone who can't or doesn't desire to set their plans in stone months out.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Well even if "disgruntled fans" stay away. History shows Disney parks fans will show up in hordes and will more than make up for the I hate last jedi crowd, (who will probably show up to fly the Falcon and shoot storm trooper).
There’s enough even casual SW fans to fill Texas. It’s gonna be Pandora x10 in the smallest domestic park. Total zoo. No matter what adjustments they make with tickets, it’s coming.

Just to be clear: I actually agree with the both of you. My problem here is that there’s an implied position that there are a billion diehards that will put up with insanity for two rides and a giftshop. The loyalty may not be there after the initial wave of nuts.’
And I was that nut...to be clear.

And it’s not that there aren’t plenty of Star Wars fans...plenty. It’s that they’re creating an operational nightmare and there’s no realistic way to handle it.
 
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Kman101

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I don't think they are disconnected, what they are is conditioned that they can do whatever nonsense they want because everyone keeps coming. They will push this garbage until it breaks, then they will back off and say, look, we are lowering prices, what a value see how great we are. Win win for them because by that time they'll still be making bank.

No, they're disconnected. You have decisions being made by people who don't set foot in the parks. They haven't a clue. But there's also some truth to your post. They know they can get away with it because the guests let them.
 

Kman101

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Just to be clear: I actually agree with the both of you. My problem here is that there’s an implied position that there are a billion diehards that will put up with insanity for two rides and a giftshop. The loyalty may not be there after the initial wave of nuts.’
And I was that nut...to be clear.

No, it will be there. You seem jaded over the franchise but the popularity remains. There's no way this land isn't a massive hit. This is Disney. Pandora still has crowds a year later. Look at Pixar Pier. Even the boardwalk games are now suddenly more popular. But I see the point you're trying to make but I think in this case you're wrong.

Not sure why people want it to fail? Not saying you necessarily but there seems to be some posters almost afraid of it succeeding.

And you want to knock it as "two rides". I'm guessing no matter how good they are you'll find some flaws? Doesn't matter they could be two of the best ever put out? But then it's easy to dismiss FOP as "just as simulator". It's interesting they can't be given credit when they do something good.

Two other posters seemed to dislike SW too. (One even went nuts, betting two of us it wouldn't open on time. I guess I'll never get that charitable donation now)

And no, I'm not a SW fanboi. I'm just a realist and the reality is the land will be a ridiculous hit.

Being tired of the movies has no bearing on the land. We seem to think how we personally feel is how the majority feel. That's usually not the case.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
No, it will be there. You seem jaded over the franchise but the popularity remains. There's no way this land isn't a massive hit. This is Disney. Pandora still has crowds a year later. Look at Pixar Pier. Even the boardwalk games are now suddenly more popular. But I see the point you're trying to make but I think in this case you're wrong.

Not sure why people want it to fail? Not saying you necessarily but there seems to be some posters almost afraid of it succeeding.

And you want to knock it as "two rides". I'm guessing no matter how good they are you'll find some flaws? Doesn't matter they could be two of the best ever put out? But then it's easy to dismiss FOP as "just as simulator". It's interesting they can't be given credit when they do something good.

Two other posters seemed to dislike SW too. (One even went nuts, betting two of us it wouldn't open on time. I guess I'll never get that charitable donation now)

And no, I'm not a SW fanboi. I'm just a realist and the reality is the land will be a ridiculous hit.

Being tired of the movies has no bearing on the land. We seem to think how we personally feel is how the majority feel. That's usually not the case.

You quoted me when I hit send by accident...I expanded where I was going a little.

It’s not about Star Wars fans at this point...it’s the concept of mgm handling that size of a crowd and the patience of the crowd being willing to put up with it. It’s an operational mess from the cheap seats.

People will compare this to Harry Potter and Carsland.

Where that fails is that both those had severely depressed attendance prior to opening...so there was a couple million in “margin” already there to use.

Mgm is a half day park and it has never held enough capacity. I don’t see anyway Mickey’s mine ride and two low capacity toy story carnies are gonna help with that at all.

There should be more phases being built right now to open in 2021...are there? Can we get an insider report on this ?🤪

As far as “two rides”...that’s an operational assessment, not a prediction of quality of rides. You can’t make things “fit” that do not - in this case, people. No where to put them.

In fact...If we’re bored...we could talk about how Disneyland has a much greater chance of succeeding with Star Wars than Orlando does...which is probably a
Mistake on multiple levels.
But we’re not that bored yet 😉
 
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larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
There’s enough even casual SW fans to fill Texas. It’s gonna be Pandora x10 in the smallest domestic park. Total zoo. No matter what adjustments they make with tickets, it’s coming.
Think 100% FP+. Remember the TSMM test? Now you see why...

I can even see the whole area as a FP+ attraction... with a strict time limit enforced. Imagine being escorted out of SW:GE by a pair of armed Stormtroopers...
 

Purduevian

Well-Known Member
Disney sold a park limiting option last year(?). It was a 4 day ticket that allowed you to visit each park once and only once. I assume their new tickets will be similar to this. Something like:

1 Day MK ticket: $125
1 Day Non MK ticket: $118
2 Day Ticket (2 MK day): $230
2 Day Ticket (1 MK day): $215
2 Day Ticket (0 MK day,): $200
2 Day Ticket (0 MK day, 2 different parks): $190

Just an example of what I see happening. Disney is adding ride capacity (SWGE, Tron, Rat, Guardians, M&MRR, UK), but most is not in MK. Their goal with this pricing will be to get people out of MK and into the other parks.
 

disneygeek90

Well-Known Member
I actually see ticket windows going away at WDW, with Fastpasses being booked in advance there is no incentive to buy a ticket on the day. Some people will always need to book on the day, so some windows will always be needed but I see many being got rid of and plaza areas opened up further.
Have you seen the ticket lines recently? They're almost always packed.
 

TJJohn12

Well-Known Member
Think 100% FP+. Remember the TSMM test? Now you see why...

So at TSL opening, they only let guests with FP into the land when it was at capacity (the others queuing outside). I'm wondering - uninformed and just speculating - if a similar scheme could be used for an entire *park*. Limit admittance at a park like DHS to only guests with FP+ selections at that park for that day. It'd be a beast of a PR nightmare, but would severely control the crowd in the park and help alleviate bad show inside at least.
 

Kman101

Well-Known Member
Well even if "disgruntled fans" stay away. History shows Disney parks fans will show up in hordes and will more than make up for the I hate last jedi crowd, (who will probably show up to fly the Falcon and shoot storm trooper).

This.

Lack of crowds for SWL is laughable.
 

matt9112

Well-Known Member
Yeah I have absolutely no problem with higher prices or managing demand through price. I have a major problem with the complexity. This is stupid.

Is it safe to assume that park hoppers would get you out of this mess?

i think its alot of money left on the table hit single day guests over the head but the common park hopper tickets dont get hit? nahh money left on the table.
 

matt9112

Well-Known Member
You don't think... nah...

Not even TDO would be stupid enough to get rid of the Park Hopper and replace it with this, eliminating all flexibility with theme park tickets, locking you into one park per day.

Would they?

i think park hopper(fied) tickets escape due to higher premium (however i expect that premium to go up) the park hopper ticket might become some pricey cherry.
 

matt9112

Well-Known Member
So I’m supposed to decide what park I want to go to on what day 6 months out when I make ADR’s, but they never have park hours or entertainment schedules finalized that far out? We’ve seen them add hours or EMH’s a month or so out. What if I then decide to swap a cheaper Epcot day for a more expensive MK day if they add hours or EMH before my trip? Will we get dinged for an addition hundred after already ponying up thousands for the trip? At that point, you’re paying for EMH even if staying onsite. Or, you pay more for the privilege of paying more if you wanted to swap to MK for a day to take advantage of EMM or Disney After Hours. Not sure how they are going to implement this without ticking a ton of folks off, or maybe I’m just not understanding how it’s supposed to work.

decide that far out or pay extra to not care....my guess. with the qmount of people on this forum who clamor for desert partys there is some head room.
 

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