Tony the Tigger
Well-Known Member
What's the difference between a droid/Westworld host and a CM paid $10 an hour?
Droids don’t eat, pee, or take breaks.
What's the difference between a droid/Westworld host and a CM paid $10 an hour?
So I’m supposed to decide what park I want to go to on what day 6 months out when I make ADR’s, but they never have park hours or entertainment schedules finalized that far out? We’ve seen them add hours or EMH’s a month or so out. What if I then decide to swap a cheaper Epcot day for a more expensive MK day if they add hours or EMH before my trip? Will we get dinged for an addition hundred after already ponying up thousands for the trip? At that point, you’re paying for EMH even if staying onsite. Or, you pay more for the privilege of paying more if you wanted to swap to MK for a day to take advantage of EMM or Disney After Hours. Not sure how they are going to implement this without ticking a ton of folks off, or maybe I’m just not understanding how it’s supposed to work.
I'd take it that there would also be an increase in AP's as well if this rolls in or would this take effect?
You seem to get it
Assuming there are people like me who hop everyday, and are not about to choose months ahead and be locked in to one park, one day - I'm sure there will the an "ultimate" ticket where you can go to any park, any day with a hopper.
They wouldn't get rid of park hoppers - Epcot, World Showcase probably benefits the most from park hoppers, people go there just for dinner after being in another park. I think getting rid of hoppers would hurt the restaurants.
You will just have to pay for it. Plenty.
I disagree about the lines. There isn't a whole lot for some to do in Pandora besides Flight of Passage. I hope that there are experiences well beyond the wand magic in WWoHP. Those immersive non-ride experiences don't mix well with sardine packed crowds. How to tell this? How crowded do they let it get opening day and the week and month after. Do they let it get to the below, or more like the WWoHP pic below it. I wonder if the capacity of SWGE will be enough to have DHS hit its capacity and turn people away or will there be throngs of people at the tap house and TSL waiting to get in. The other thing is that we'll see how they handle it for months in Anaheim, so we'll have a pretty good idea of their plan.Of course they want lines like Pandora. They just want each of those people in line paying more money to be there.
there are people like me who hop everyday, and are not about to choose months ahead and be locked in to one park, one day - I'm sure there will the an "ultimate" ticket where you can go to any park, any day with a hopper.
They wouldn't get rid of park hoppers - Epcot, World Showcase probably benefits the most from park hoppers, people go there just for dinner after being in another park. I think getting rid of hoppers would hurt the restaurants.
You will just have to pay for it. Plenty.
- You'll have to say "I'm going to this park on this date" to get the cheapest pricing.
- There will be a more expensive "go to any park any day during your trip" option.
It will definitely be interesting to see. But my money is on Disney not having the restraint to opt for something like you see in the second photo.I disagree about the lines. There isn't a whole lot for some to do in Pandora besides Flight of Passage. I hope that there are experiences well beyond the wand magic in WWoHP. Those immersive non-ride experiences don't mix well with sardine packed crowds. How to tell this? How crowded do they let it get opening day and the week and month after. Do they let it get to the below, or more like the WWoHP pic below it. I wonder if the capacity of SWGE will be enough to have DHS hit its capacity and turn people away or will there be throngs of people at the tap house and TSL waiting to get in. The other thing is that we'll see how they handle it for months in Anaheim, so we'll have a pretty good idea of their plan.
I'm counting on them having a "give us your CC number and we'll fill in a number" option. That makes this complexity a feature in their eyes.They could default to the more expensive 'flex' ticket and give you the option of configuring your ticket for a lower cost. But HS, that could very easily get complicated. It's pretty simple for one-day, but yeah, for 4, 7, 10, 14 days, could get awful. It really only applies to non-hopper tickets.
How to make it easier? You get x days at MK, y at Epcot, z at HS, w at AK, with x+y+z+w = total days.
I'm not sure how much information they'd get based on tickets like this to project HS attendance, especially once GE opens. It's going to be crowded af, and the land will hit capacity before the park.
Is making it more confusing a feature or a bug? If people have to program in what they want and the droid spits out a price, are they likely to spend more than if there's a menu of pricing?
Perhaps my favorite thing about being a pass holder was thinking that the cost for me to go today is zero. Nothing to think about, price out, or worry about 'getting my money's worth'.
Part of pricing a product is finding what people will pay. If someone will pay $150 for a day at HS after GE opens, but would pay $100 for a day at Epcot, it doesn't make sense to charge them $110 for either. But Disney isn't just selling one-day tickets, or a day here another day somewhere else. It's selling the whole experience of WDW.
But, not in mine and certainly not in the eyes of many, I hope.I'm counting on them having a "give us your CC number and we'll fill in a number" option. That makes this complexity a feature in their eyes.
The MK is already more expensive for single-day. AK has Pandora. We're projecting HS to draw 20 million in 2020. That leaves...Epcot. The game is, who's going to go to Epcot. Lots of people were asking that about Hollywood studios before TSL opened. My answer was - me! It still had some of my and my family's favorite rides. Not the best eating options though, which is a massive win for World Showcase and Epcot in general, especially in festival seasons. I expect I'll end up at Epcot a lot during that time. As people still went to HS before TSL opened, people will still go to Epcot.I have to wonder how much a plan like that would hurt World Showcase. It appears the restaurants in DS are already taking a bite out of it. Seems like a sure fire way to turn all of Epcot into a ghost town if they price an “unlimited” hopper too high.
No joke.My head hurts.
My gut reaction is that there has to be a piece of this puzzle that we are missing. We don't have all the details yet. All we know for certain, in terms of actual public statements, is that tiered pricing is coming for multi-day tickets. Everything else, even that based on "inside sources," is still rumor and always subject to change.
Perhaps it will be as simple as "tiered pricing applies to one park per day tickets" and "the new, increased price park hopper avoids the tiering and lets you go to whichever park, whenever." Perhaps it will be something entirely different that we haven't thought of. I don't know. But I can't believe that Disney is simply going to eliminate the ability to visit more than one park in a day. Nor can I believe, in spite of some of their other moves, that they are really going to get to the point where you even have to commit to your park hopping plans six months in advance.
Like I said, I think there's critical details here that we're still missing.
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