Run, Stitch! Recycled ride to be your fate

[IlovyensiD]

I think that we have another journy into yoru imagination here

the origional attration was great then it was replaced with a terrible attraction. and is now an ok attraction

 

[Testtrack321]

It's unwinnable I fear. Disney may have no choice but to rehab it now. It's gotten too popular to dislike the attraction.

A shame. I will miss the original show, unless Disney actually pulls a better and more entertaining script out of the bag. But somehow, I doubt that. I think Stitch MKII will be more disappointing. But I hope I am wrong, for Stitch's sake.

Popular to rip on Stitch? No. That makes it sound like the ride is good, but they are just jumping on a negative bandwagon.

 

[Testtrack321]

There are people on the boards who like SGE -- no worries.

I agree that AE was better for MGM, but I never had a problem with it at MK.

By saying, "What's so great about AE - getting blood splattered?", that's just like saying, "What's so great about SGE - spit being thrown at the audience?"

Alien Encounter attracted people for different reasons. Number one were the thrill fans. Another group of people just fell in love with a story; a GOOD story - original to the parks - is definitely appealing. AE was well-done (take a look at those special effects!!), had a great new set of original characters, and was VERY good at creating a story and building up foreshadowing and emotion.

Let me say I'm no thrill junkie by any means, but I never missed Alien Encounter once I started experiencing it in the late 90s. Why? The story. I didn't even think the attraction was that scary at all. It had an aura of originality, of something classic.

Heck, I never think about death or terror when I think of AE. Kinda weird, huh?

Great example is Kill Bill. It's violent, but it tells and great story and is played out very well. Story comes first.

 

[dxwwf3]

Great example is Kill Bill. It's violent, but it tells and great story and is played out very well. Story comes first.

In the imortal words of Ned Ryerson from Groundhog Day: "BING!"

 

[FamilyMan]

There was another member here that said that the CM getting killed made him laugh.


Why, on god's green earth...would that be funny?

I suppose you hate the Haunted Mansion too...

An attraction that is pretty much about killing you!

 

[Stitchfan712]

Must you be rude?

 

[PhilosophyMagic]

The D-army

I'm sorry I have to ask this, but with all this discussion, could someone clarify exactly WHAT a D-Army IS? What does it do? Does it work? Is General Grizz its general?!

 

[dandaman]

...but on the Internet, Disney-goers have reported...

Yay, we're famous! :lol:

 

[NemoRocks78]

Must you be rude?

He's just telling it how it is....

It's not like Disney can't "kill" anything (ok, does that sound wrong or what? :lol: ). They've done it in movies and they can do it in rides.

 

[General Grizz]

I'm sorry I have to ask this, but with all this discussion, could someone clarify exactly WHAT a D-Army IS? What does it do? Does it work? Is General Grizz its general?!

You will find out EVERYTHING there is to know about the D-Army later this year. Yes, I'm the General. MKT is War President. I'm looking at about late December/early January premiere. All will be out in time.

As for AE, I realize that killing a CM is VERY gruesome, stitchfan. And to tell you the truth, whenever I think of Alien Encounter, that scene is the one that last comes into my mind. I agree that doesn't belong in the Magic Kingdom, but it never affected the way I saw the Alien Encounter.

 

[Indy95]

Great example is Kill Bill. It's violent, but it tells and great story and is played out very well. Story comes first.

Repeat after me, "The story is always first...The story is always first...the story is always first..."

The first Matrix movie is another good example.

A lesson apparently not learned by SGE, that's for sure!

 

[Legacy]

Mike Thomas is one of the only decent editors at the Sentinel. And he's one of the few who actually cares about theme parks.

As much as I love the character of Stitch, my expectations for SGE are beginning to lower a bit. (Which is saying a lot. My expectations weren't too high to begin with.) Does that mean I don't care about the attraction? Nope, I'm planning on making a special trip to the Kingdom just to ride it. I just think that Imagineering had it's hands tied in what it could do. It was being forced to use the AE format for a non-scary show. That couldn't work because because AE was developed to be scary. I would rather see Stitch with Lilo in Adventureland. I think that would be a much more entertaining attraction. Hopefully this re-scripting will actually utilize Lilo some.

 

[skippah1960]

I just have to chime in and say that my family and I LOVED Alien Encounter, and it is still one our more repeated Disney stories. As far as image goes, Disney's magic lies in the ability to bring to life that which otherwise lives only in the imagination, I think that objective was reached vey well with Alien Encounter, I have yet to check out Stitch, (2 weeks and counting) but I will miss it's predicessor.

 

[AEfx]

Great example is Kill Bill. It's violent, but it tells and great story and is played out very well. Story comes first.

Exactly. Classic Disney films aimed at children can be enjoyed by all by the same token - by having a compelling story it can appeal to everyone.

The problem with Stitch is two-fold. One, it's a redesign of a more mature attraction to suit younger audiences that still doesn't appeal to that younger audience. What's ironic is that AE was already watered down from the original concept - in which the alien you encounter was to have been the Alien from the Alien films - but that's a story you'd have to go to JimHill for.

The second part is the lack of story. While when talking about rides like PotC and HM, which are about Epic and Spectacle, they were designed to not need a begining, middle, and end. What amounts to a brief sit-down theatrical presentation, like SGE, can't operate on those same principles - the audience needs a sense of cohesion to the experience that many feel is just not there with Stitch.

I've said it before, I really feel like the intention was for a glorified meet and greet - that's how it functions. Kids want to see Stitch "live", just like at a meet 'n greet. The younger ones aren't going to like the scare effects, and the older ones who can "survive" them may enjoy just seeing Stitch. To everyone else, though, just about the best reaction I've heard is, "Oh. That was cute," ranging to insults that I won't bother recounting here.

I think the redesign into SGE did a lot of structural work (literal and figurative) that could really become a neat attraction in a second rehab. Although personally I'd prefer scarier, I hope they go the opposite way and really make it kid-friendly, and GIVE IT A STORY.

I don't care how kid-oriented it is, but if it's got a neat little story, and I got to see Stitch do a few more cute things (the AA is amazing, but under-used in terms of time), I'd be a fan. As it stands, SGE didn't even do that for me.

AEfx

 

[KevinPage]

Exactly. Classic Disney films aimed at children can be enjoyed by all by the same token - by having a compelling story it can appeal to everyone.

The problem with Stitch is two-fold. One, it's a redesign of a more mature attraction to suit younger audiences that still doesn't appeal to that younger audience. What's ironic is that AE was already watered down from the original concept - in which the alien you encounter was to have been the Alien from the Alien films - but that's a story you'd have to go to JimHill for.

The second part is the lack of story. While when talking about rides like PotC and HM, which are about Epic and Spectacle, they were designed to not need a begining, middle, and end. What amounts to a brief sit-down theatrical presentation, like SGE, can't operate on those same principles - the audience needs a sense of cohesion to the experience that many feel is just not there with Stitch.

I've said it before, I really feel like the intention was for a glorified meet and greet - that's how it functions. Kids want to see Stitch "live", just like at a meet 'n greet. The younger ones aren't going to like the scare effects, and the older ones who can "survive" them may enjoy just seeing Stitch. To everyone else, though, just about the best reaction I've heard is, "Oh. That was cute," ranging to insults that I won't bother recounting here.

I think the redesign into SGE did a lot of structural work (literal and figurative) that could really become a neat attraction in a second rehab. Although personally I'd prefer scarier, I hope they go the opposite way and really make it kid-friendly, and GIVE IT A STORY.

I don't care how kid-oriented it is, but if it's got a neat little story, and I got to see Stitch do a few more cute things (the AA is amazing, but under-used in terms of time), I'd be a fan. As it stands, SGE didn't even do that for me.

AEfx

Excellent points, I agree. I don't care how "kiddie" something is as long as its GOOD

 

[KevinPage]

You will find out EVERYTHING there is to know about the D-Army later this year. Yes, I'm the General. MKT is War President.

Geesh alou and people complained about Bush & Cheney in the White House.
:hurl: :hurl: :hurl:

 

[Stitchfan712]

Why do i fear a crowd of candle-holders converging on SGE, the throwing the candles down and ripping down the signage, pouring into the attraction, and destroying everything in there, then demanding Disney bring AE back?

 

[Legacy]

Why do i fear a crowd of candle-holders converging on SGE, the throwing the candles down and ripping down the signage, pouring into the attraction, and destroying everything in there, then demanding Disney bring AE back?

I don't think they would do that AE. The Land balloons maybe... but not AE.

 

[General Grizz]

Why do i fear a crowd of candle-holders converging on SGE, the throwing the candles down and ripping down the signage, pouring into the attraction, and destroying everything in there, then demanding Disney bring AE back?

No protest group would ever cause physical damage.

 

[NemoRocks78]

Why do i fear a crowd of candle-holders converging on SGE, the throwing the candles down and ripping down the signage, pouring into the attraction, and destroying everything in there, then demanding Disney bring AE back?

That idea isn't half bad.... :lol: