Matt_Black
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I'm reminded of an old saying from the pro wrestling business- "The champion should bring credibility to the title belt, not vice versa." Same with The Office. It only has as much respectability as the person in it.
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RUMOR: Lin Manuel Miranda and Weird Al to Redo Hall of Presidents
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I'm reminded of an old saying from the pro wrestling business- "The champion should bring credibility to the title belt, not vice versa." Same with The Office. It only has as much respectability as the person in it.
Goofyernmost
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Oh, well, that clears that up. If it wouldn't be huge inconvenience why and how do you know?
RSoxNo1
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No, it's time to come up with a different angle for the show. I would absolutely accept a show where the sitting president doesn't speak. Having said that, if the sales pitch was made today (irrespective of the show's content), the show simple doesn't get made. It's a low draw show that requires an update every 4-8 years to stay relevant.
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Animaniac93-98
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When the show was getting updates in the 70s and 80s all they did was add another robot and name to the roll call.
The desire to redo the script, music, narration etc with each new President was another trend started in 1993.
I don't mind if all they do going forward is the basic stuff and keep the current movie/script/narration.
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Disneyhead'71
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What are you talking about, the HOP was built and opened between the '68 race riots and Watergate.Just sayin', if anyone here thinks that a potential Biden AA won't generate as much audience resentment as the Trump one, you're kidding yourselves. Florida is a red state. I remember the undercurrent I felt when the old Obama AA spoke, every time I visited the attraction. I hate to say it, but maybe this nation is now too fractured politically for HOP to not be a trigger for fools. Times have changed, and not for the better. General respect for the office of President has gone out the window, perhaps forever. For that reason, perhaps it's time that Disney dispenses with the new-President-speaks schtick and just let Lincoln speak. That should be a lot less controversial.
Although, come to think of it, rioters across the country are starting to pull down Lincoln statues now...
America hasn't changed all that much. I think we need the HOP more now than we have in a long time. But it should go back to Lincoln talking about the "United" States of America.
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Magenta Panther
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Yes, just use the Lincoln figure, as I mentioned. An icon beloved by most rational people, whatever their political persuasion (barring the jerks in Portland).
I still think America's very hostile and angry right now, at a level I've never seen throughout my lifetime. But to each his own.
Magenta Panther
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Not if they've got eyes in their head. It's probably Imagineering's worst AA likeness of a U.S. President since Obama's.
Magenta Panther
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And there's the Lincoln statue in D.C. depicting the President emancipating a slave that a lot of people want to get rid of...
Just changed the name of the White House while one is at it.
Matt_Black
Well-Known Member
If you're going to quote Flair on a WDW board, it really should be the Space Mountain quip.
champdisney
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Nah. That would definitely be a misusage of the quote.If you're going to quote Flair on a WDW board, it really should be the Space Mountain quip.
The problem with the statue here in Washington is how the freed slaves are depicted. Lincoln isn’t the issue, the depiction of the slaves is.
This article from DCist does a good job describing the situation.
The Lincoln Statue In Capitol Hill Has Become A Monument To Public Debate Itself
“I think the Lincoln statue, maybe more than any other statue in the country, symbolizes all the arguments in one place.”
dcist.com
Animaniac93-98
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They should also bring back Royal Dano as the voice of Lincoln. That was one of the better revisions of the 2009 version.
RSoxNo1
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That can work, but I also think it's probably time to eliminate the speaking role for the current president.
ToTBellHop
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Maybe you could just have 45 and 46 talk at the same time so everyone’s happy and you get that special “Debate Night in America” vibe.
Sir_Cliff
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They really should have announced before the election that, whoever wins, they were developing a new show in which the current president would go back to a non-speaking role. Now any discussion and reactions are going to be coloured by however people feel about the outcome.
Either way, I do think they should get rid of the speaking role for the current president. It's just unrealistic to elevate the current president, whoever they are, above politics.
Either way, I do think they should get rid of the speaking role for the current president. It's just unrealistic to elevate the current president, whoever they are, above politics.
doctornick
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I think such a plan would have worked well prior to the 2016 election given that no matter who won they’d be “new”. If it were done 6 months ago it would have been taken poorly especially by Trump supporters and would have been an “unnecessary” and costly change for no reason from Disney’s prospective if Trump had won.
That said, now is a perfect time to return to the “no speaking role for the current president” setup. They have to change the attraction anyway. The winner is another old white man so they don’t have to deal with the backlash if it were a minority of some sort for under representing. They have featured two Democrats and two Republicans so that’s “even”. And honestly they can even tie it to Biden’s message of “unifying the nation “ that hopefully would help keep his supporters from being offended. I don’t think there’s a better time to consider it and it needs to be done to keep the attention more neutral and less of a lightening rod.
ToTBellHop
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Personally, I'd like to see them go the Carousel of Progress route and showcase the presidential pets. We have two DOTUSes arriving in January and they should be immortalized as Audio-Animatronics. Throw in Pence's bunny Marlon Bundo, too.
PizzaPlanet
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I feel like the main reason the current president's speaking part was added in the first place was to draw in more people. It keeps the show fresh and gives people a reason to keep coming back even if they've seen the show before.
SteveAZee
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William Henry Harrison was president for about a month... got an AA.