RUMOR: Lin Manuel Miranda and Weird Al to Redo Hall of Presidents

[Archie123]

William Henry Harrison was president for about a month... got a statue.

Pence may get a statue but he won't get an animatronic figure in the HoP especially if the only reason he becomes president is to pardon his former boss for any crimes he may have committed. And that would be the only reason he would become president in 2020.

Harrison was a war hero, congressman and senator who won the presidency but died after a month in office. Totally deserved an AA.

 

[SteveAZee]

Pence may get a statue but he won't get an animatronic figure in the HoP especially if the only reason he becomes president is to pardon his former boss for any crimes he may have committed. And that would be the only reason he would become president in 2020.

I guess I'm just pointing out that neither 'time on office' or whether or not they are 'elected' means much to whether or not they get into HOP. I would guess that anyone who takes the oath of office gets to be there.

 

[Archie123]

I guess I'm just pointing out that neither 'time on office' or whether or not they are 'elected' means much to whether or not they get into HOP. I would guess that anyone who takes the oath of office gets to be there.

I don't think we will ever find out because I don't think for a second that Trump will resign.

 

[SteveAZee]

I don't think we will ever find out because I don't think for a second that Trump will resign.

LOL, it's hard to predict, at least for me. I would guess he would first try to give himself a blanket pardon for all crimes past and present and hope the SC would back that up as a power of the office.

 

[Archie123]

LOL, it's hard to predict, at least for me. I would guess he would first try to give himself a blanket pardon for all crimes past and present and hope the SC would back that up as a power of the office.

Who knows with Trump as anything is possible but I would guess that trying a blanket pardon won't be legal. I did ask my Magic 8-ball whether Pence will be president and I got this:

 

[MisterPenguin]

Pence may get a statue but he won't get an animatronic figure in the HoP especially if the only reason he becomes president is to pardon his former boss for any crimes he may have committed. And that would be the only reason he would become president in 2020.

Harrison was a war hero, congressman and senator who won the presidency but died after a month in office. Totally deserved an AA.

So... Gerald Ford is in there...

 

[Archie123]

So... Gerald Ford is in there...

And Ford was president from August 1974 through January 1977. That is a lot longer than Pence's possible 70 days in office which would only occur if Trump quit today.

There are huge differences between when Nixon quit and Trump's possibly resigning only to be pardoned by Pence.

 

[UNCgolf]

And Ford was president from August 1974 through January 1977. That is a lot longer than Pence's possible 70 days in office which would only occur if Trump quit today.

There are huge differences between when Nixon quit and Trump's possibly resigning only to be pardoned by Pence.

Pence would (or at least should) get an AA if that happened -- otherwise it defeats the purpose of the Hall of Presidents. He would still be an official President of the United States regardless of how long his term lasted.

I definitely don't see it happening, though.

 

[Archie123]

Pence would (or at least should) get an AA if that happened -- otherwise it defeats the purpose of the Hall of Presidents. He would still be an official President of the United States regardless of how long his term lasted.

I definitely don't see it happening, though.

I don't think it will happen either. If it does maybe they can add an asterisk to his head to represent the controversy instead of the fly that landed on him in the debate.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Wouldn't that be too similar to the American Adventure?

Not sure where you see the similarity except in parts of the film. As far as the presentation of Presidents, they have a completely different show. American Adventure does not focus on Presidents its focus is on historical happening of the nation. HoP is strictly about (now 46 Presidents of the nation. The only similarity is that they both have something to do with the United States and that is basically where it ends.

Pence may get a statue but he won't get an animatronic figure in the HoP especially if the only reason he becomes president is to pardon his former boss for any crimes he may have committed. And that would be the only reason he would become president in 2020.

Harrison was a war hero, congressman and senator who won the presidency but died after a month in office. Totally deserved an AA.

That is what we have been saying. Of course, he isn't going to get a speaking part, there isn't time if they wanted too, but he will be in the show and that is what I, at least, have been saying. I do think he would be a limited movement animatronic because that is a simple process. Just like the others he would be looking around desperately trying to find "mother" or shifting his weight.

 

[UNCgolf]

Not sure where you see the similarity except in parts of the film. As far as the presentation of Presidents, they have a completely different show. American Adventure does not focus on Presidents its focus is on historical happening of the nation. HoP is strictly about (now 46 Presidents of the nation. The only similarity is that they both have something to do with the United States and that is basically where it ends.

I wasn't saying HoP and American Adventure are currently similar. He suggested changing HoP to a different type of show, and what he was describing was very similar to American Adventure. I was pointing out that American Adventure already exists, so it wouldn't make sense to change HoP to be like it.

 

[Archie123]

Not sure where you see the similarity except in parts of the film. As far as the presentation of Presidents, they have a completely different show. American Adventure does not focus on Presidents its focus is on historical happening of the nation. HoP is strictly about (now 46 Presidents of the nation. The only similarity is that they both have something to do with the United States and that is basically where it ends.

That is what we have been saying. Of course, he isn't going to get a speaking part, there isn't time if they wanted too, but he will be in the show and that is what I, at least, have been saying. I do think he would be a limited movement animatronic because that is a simple process. Just like the others he would be looking around desperately trying to find "mother" or shifting his weight.

He won't get an AA either. Not for the reason he became president. Anyways, time to move on with this as playing a hypothetical game of "Will Trump resign" is boring.

 

[Goofyernmost]

I wasn't saying HoP and American Adventure are currently similar. He suggested changing HoP to a different type of show, and what he was describing was very similar to American Adventure. I was pointing out that American Adventure already exists, so it wouldn't make sense to change HoP to be like it.

Sorry, I must have read it incorrectly.

 

[Goofyernmost]

He won't get an AA either. Not for the reason he became president. Anyways, time to move on with this as playing a hypothetical game of "Will Trump resign" is boring.

If he does get in, which I also doubt, he will have an AA because there is no reason why he shouldn't. I'm not sure why you think that is the case. There is no precedent in this at all.

 

[_caleb]

I wasn't saying HoP and American Adventure are currently similar. He suggested changing HoP to a different type of show, and what he was describing was very similar to American Adventure. I was pointing out that American Adventure already exists, so it wouldn't make sense to change HoP to be like it.

And I was saying that it might indeed be similar, but that it would still be better than 50 glorified mannequins crowded onto a stage for a few minutes.

Look, I actually LOVE the Hall of Presidents. It’s the perfect marriage of robots, history, social commentary, and patriotism. I just think the format could change to tell a better, more engaging story (see the American Adventure and Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln).

 

[larryz]

Who knows with Trump as anything is possible but I would guess that trying a blanket pardon won't be legal. I did ask my Magic 8-ball whether Pence will be president and I got this:

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[ToTBellHop]

If we manage to get a 46th and 47th POTUS in the next 3 months, both would be added to the HoP, obviously. I can’t believe we are debating this. The Magic Kingdom is no place to debate the merits of each President. With that said, there would obviously not be a time when Pence was showcased as the current POTUS. I expect a closure soon enough.

 

[_caleb]

If we manage to get a 46th and 47th POTUS in the next 3 months, both would be added to the HoP, obviously. I can’t believe we are debating this. The Magic Kingdom is no place to debate the merits of each President. With that said, there would obviously not be a time when Pence was showcased as the current POTUS. I expect a closure soon enough.

I didn't think we were debating the merits of any president, but rather the merits of HoP's current approach to the show (and whether it should be changed). Maybe I'm missing something?

 

[wedenterprises]

I would gladly welcome the Muppets to the HoP

 

[LaughingGravy]

IMO, they should simply have the show lead performer(s) be Washington or Lincoln or both, but have all others in quiet nod/spotlight on introduction mode.