Politics RUMOR: Lin Manuel Miranda and Weird Al to Redo Hall of Presidents

[Magenta Panther]

Just sayin', if anyone here thinks that a potential Biden AA won't generate as much audience resentment as the Trump one, you're kidding yourselves. Florida is a red state. I remember the undercurrent I felt when the old Obama AA spoke, every time I visited the attraction. I hate to say it, but maybe this nation is now too fractured politically for HOP to not be a trigger for fools. Times have changed, and not for the better. General respect for the office of President has gone out the window, perhaps forever. For that reason, perhaps it's time that Disney dispenses with the new-President-speaks schtick and just let Lincoln speak. That should be a lot less controversial.

Although, come to think of it, rioters across the country are starting to pull down Lincoln statues now...

 

[999th Happy Haunt]

If Disney caves in and gets rid of HoP, I would be deeply deeply deeply disappointed in them.

 

[GimpYancIent]

If Disney caves in and gets rid of HoP, I would be deeply deeply deeply disappointed in them.

HoP can be livened up, updated yet go retro just have add these guy's as MC's.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

If Disney caves in and gets rid of HoP, I would be deeply deeply deeply disappointed in them.

And the park would certainly be less "Disney" for it, given how much Walt and WED wanted to do it, even 15 years before it could be realized.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Although, come to think of it, rioters across the country are starting to pull down Lincoln statues now...

Is this actually happening?

 

[Lilofan]

Just sayin', if anyone here thinks that a potential Biden AA won't generate as much audience resentment as the Trump one, you're kidding yourselves. Florida is a red state. I remember the undercurrent I felt when the old Obama AA spoke, every time I visited the attraction. I hate to say it, but maybe this nation is now too fractured politically for HOP to not be a trigger for fools. Times have changed, and not for the better. General respect for the office of President has gone out the window, perhaps forever. For that reason, perhaps it's time that Disney dispenses with the new-President-speaks schtick and just let Lincoln speak. That should be a lot less controversial.

Although, come to think of it, rioters across the country are starting to pull down Lincoln statues now...

That's incorrect. Lincoln statues were being pulled down in October in Portland.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

That's incorrect. Lincoln statues were being pulled down in October in Portland.

Oh I see that now... from Columbus Day.

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

I’ve always found the World Showcase representations to be presented through an American lens. The things that are highlighted (as being interesting, beautiful, curious, or unique) about each country seem to be selected for the contrast they provide to typical American culture. Cultures have unique perspectives on other cultures, after all. But I think this is behind much of the “stereotype” accusation comes from. Thoughts?

It’s totally fine to disagree with my half-baked (and often uninformed) opinions!

The reason I think it’s time for something different is that the stage is getting really crowded. If we don’t hear from James Garfield or William Howard Taft, why do we need AA of them taking up space on the platform?

Honestly the only thing that makes the scene of all the presidents together on stage at the same time a “wow” moment for me is that it shows in stark contrast how dominated our government has been by white men.

Because my last name is Taft.

 

[Matt_Black]

General respect for the office of President has gone out the window, perhaps forever.

I'm reminded of an old saying from the pro wrestling business- "The champion should bring credibility to the title belt, not vice versa." Same with The Office. It only has as much respectability as the person in it.

 

[Goofyernmost]

He won't become a part of the HoP.

Oh, well, that clears that up. If it wouldn't be huge inconvenience why and how do you know?

 

[RSoxNo1]

It depends if they think its still a Covid risk or if the park needs the capacity.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they did a Clinton/Bush.

I’d be surprised if post-President Trump’s limited motion figure wasn’t already designed. Also, don’t they usually reuse the same structure for each President?

I really could see this being a quick refurb where they add Trump to the gallery, throw Biden in with a speech, and call it a day. The current show/film is definitely good to run for the next few years.

Since 1993 we've had 2 Democrats and 2 Republicans with speaking roles. I think it's fair to stop it now.

If Disney caves in and gets rid of HoP, I would be deeply deeply deeply disappointed in them.

No, it's time to come up with a different angle for the show. I would absolutely accept a show where the sitting president doesn't speak. Having said that, if the sales pitch was made today (irrespective of the show's content), the show simple doesn't get made. It's a low draw show that requires an update every 4-8 years to stay relevant.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

No, it's time to come up with a different angle for the show. I would absolutely accept a show where the sitting president doesn't speak. Having said that, if the sales pitch was made today (irrespective of the show's content), the show simple doesn't get made. It's a low draw show that requires an update every 4-8 years to stay relevant.

When the show was getting updates in the 70s and 80s all they did was add another robot and name to the roll call.

The desire to redo the script, music, narration etc with each new President was another trend started in 1993.

I don't mind if all they do going forward is the basic stuff and keep the current movie/script/narration.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

Just sayin', if anyone here thinks that a potential Biden AA won't generate as much audience resentment as the Trump one, you're kidding yourselves. Florida is a red state. I remember the undercurrent I felt when the old Obama AA spoke, every time I visited the attraction. I hate to say it, but maybe this nation is now too fractured politically for HOP to not be a trigger for fools. Times have changed, and not for the better. General respect for the office of President has gone out the window, perhaps forever. For that reason, perhaps it's time that Disney dispenses with the new-President-speaks schtick and just let Lincoln speak. That should be a lot less controversial.

Although, come to think of it, rioters across the country are starting to pull down Lincoln statues now...

What are you talking about, the HOP was built and opened between the '68 race riots and Watergate.

America hasn't changed all that much. I think we need the HOP more now than we have in a long time. But it should go back to Lincoln talking about the "United" States of America.

 

[Magenta Panther]

What are you talking about, the HOP was built and opened between the '68 race riots and Watergate.

America hasn't changed all that much. I think we need the HOP more now than we have in a long time. But it should go back to Lincoln talking about the "United" States of America.

Yes, just use the Lincoln figure, as I mentioned. An icon beloved by most rational people, whatever their political persuasion (barring the jerks in Portland).

I still think America's very hostile and angry right now, at a level I've never seen throughout my lifetime. But to each his own.

 

[Magenta Panther]

If Disney really wanted to make some cash, auction off the Trump figure. There will be some fanatical followers that will bid high.

Not if they've got eyes in their head. It's probably Imagineering's worst AA likeness of a U.S. President since Obama's.

 

[Magenta Panther]

That's incorrect. Lincoln statues were being pulled down in October in Portland.

And there's the Lincoln statue in D.C. depicting the President emancipating a slave that a lot of people want to get rid of...

 

[Lilofan]

And there's the Lincoln statue in D.C. depicting the President emancipating a slave that a lot of people want to get rid of...

Just changed the name of the White House while one is at it.

 

[Matt_Black]

“Whether you like it, or you don't like it, learn to love it! It's the best thing going today! Wooooo!“ - Nature Boy Ric Flair

The best quote ever uttered on live television with obvious facts behind it. Why couldn’t anyone get behind that?

If you're going to quote Flair on a WDW board, it really should be the Space Mountain quip.

 

[champdisney]

If you're going to quote Flair on a WDW board, it really should be the Space Mountain quip.

Nah. That would definitely be a misusage of the quote.

 

[Admiral01]

And there's the Lincoln statue in D.C. depicting the President emancipating a slave that a lot of people want to get rid of...

The problem with the statue here in Washington is how the freed slaves are depicted. Lincoln isn’t the issue, the depiction of the slaves is.

This article from DCist does a good job describing the situation.

The Lincoln Statue In Capitol Hill Has Become A Monument To Public Debate Itself

“I think the Lincoln statue, maybe more than any other statue in the country, symbolizes all the arguments in one place.”

dcist.com