RUMOR: Lin Manuel Miranda and Weird Al to Redo Hall of Presidents

UNCgolf

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No one is hailing the makers of Pocahontas as the second coming.

Hamilton isn't supposed to be a 100% accurate historical depiction; it's a Broadway show. It exists for entertainment. No one should watch it and expect to get the complete historical truth -- if they do, that's on them, not the creators. No one should watch Braveheart, The Patriot, Gladiator, or countless other historical fiction dramas and expect to be getting real history either.

It's an excellent Broadway show, which is why he's getting acclaim.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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Nothing better than having Lin Miranda create the show in Hall of Presidents....and person whose Hamilton show is wholly inaccurate and revisionist history. 🙄

What makes the show “wholly inaccurate” by the way? The key plot points are all extremely accurate. The biggest issue with accuracy I know of is Burr being present at some extra key moments of Hamilton’s life.
 

KaliSplash

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Some of us are fine with HOP And COP just because of the AA's. Has nothing to do with the current political climate. Admittedly I am old, but I Like watching the swaying of the presidents and such, as well as the birds watching the others since in the Tiki Room. The attention to detail in both of these attractions IS the attraction. Ditto COP. But again, I'm getting on up there. (I just remember the first time I had seen these shows, late 70s and was fascinated by the AAs. Must admit the current HOP is better than I expected. I don't remind a re-do as long as we keep the roll call with all our leaders.
 

RSoxNo1

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I realize that’s a highly controversial opinion among fans, and some people are probably shocked to see me say it.

Maybe COP could work if WDI gave it a snappier script and restored the end to the 1960s to make it truly retro. But come on, do you really laugh at the, um, “jokes”? ;)
I went to the extent of recording a 1980s treatment for the attraction but couldn't come up with a future treatment that I liked.

 

BromBones

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Hamilton isn't supposed to be a 100% accurate historical depiction; it's a Broadway show. It exists for entertainment. No one should watch it and expect to get the complete historical truth -- if they do, that's on them, not the creators. No one should watch Braveheart, The Patriot, Gladiator, or countless other historical fiction dramas and expect to be getting real history either.

It's an excellent Broadway show, which is why he's getting acclaim.

Hall of Presidents isn't supposed to be a Broadway show. It's supposed to be an historical lesson.
We don't need more revisionist history from a person with a clear political bias and proclivity.
 

_caleb

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Hall of Presidents isn't supposed to be a Broadway show. It's supposed to be an historical lesson.
We don't need more revisionist history from a person with a clear political bias and proclivity.
All of Disney’s history shows have been revisionist: Hall of Presidents, Great Moments With Mr. Lincoln, the American Adventure. They were never intended to be history lessons (if they were, people like you would complain that they don’t pay Disney bucks to go on vacation just to hear a lecture). These shows are just patriotainment.

But they can make Hall of Presidents into whatever they want—maybe once upon a time they were “historical edutainment,“ but it’s clear (to me) that Disney doesn’t think their audiences are interested in edutainment anymore.
 

Demarke

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Hamilton isn't supposed to be a 100% accurate historical depiction; it's a Broadway show. It exists for entertainment. No one should watch it and expect to get the complete historical truth -- if they do, that's on them, not the creators. No one should watch Braveheart, The Patriot, Gladiator, or countless other historical fiction dramas and expect to be getting real history either.

It's an excellent Broadway show, which is why he's getting acclaim.
No one should, but there are an awful lot more people walking out of the Broadway show acting like they just completed a doctoral thesis than walking out of Pocahontas pretending they are authorities on Native American history. And not many performances of the other examples were delayed so the performers could chastise people in the audience that they disagree with politically.
 

UNCgolf

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No one should, but there are an awful lot more people walking out of the Broadway show acting like they just completed a doctoral thesis than walking out of Pocahontas pretending they are authorities on Native American history. And not many performances of the other examples were delayed so the performers could chastise people in the audience that they disagree with politically.

I don't think anyone has to worry about the Hall of Presidents AAs delaying their performance to chastise the audience.
 
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TrainsOfDisney

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And not many performances of the other examples were delayed so the performers could chastise people in the audience that they disagree with politically.

The performance was not delayed... it was a post-show comment at curtain call which is very common on broadway (happens nightly during equity fights aids month). This is what was said -

“We, sir — we — are the diverse America who are alarmed and anxious that your new administration will not protect us, our planet, our children, our parents, or defend us and uphold our inalienable rights. We truly hope that this show has inspired you to uphold our American values and to work on behalf of all of us.”
 

DisneyCane

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The current version is probably the best version of the attraction and it's basically "Great moments in presidential speeches".
I finally experienced HOP last week for the first time in probably over 30 years. I figured with the reduced crowds nobody would boo a robot figure so I could enjoy the show. Nobody did and the show was just ok. A little boring. Honestly, I enjoy American Adventure more.

Making it more entertaining would be an improvement. Also, none of the AAs of recent presidents look all that much like they do (or did at inauguration).
 

_caleb

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I finally experienced HOP last week for the first time in probably over 30 years. I figured with the reduced crowds nobody would boo a robot figure so I could enjoy the show. Nobody did and the show was just ok. A little boring. Honestly, I enjoy American Adventure more.

Making it more entertaining would be an improvement. Also, none of the AAs of recent presidents look all that much like they do (or did at inauguration).
And there’s the challenge- almost anything you do to make history more interesting to theme park guests will push into “too political!” “Don’t lecture me!” and “revisionist history!” territory.
 

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