Rope Lights Outlining Roofs on Deluxe Resorts Diminishing?

[1023]

Electric lights, strung across a roof, in the extreme weather that Florida can get wouldn't possibly be a fire hazard? Really? Electricity and water all of a sudden mix well?

People in Florida don't have Christmas lights? I am sure I've seen The Osborne Family lights. What about street lights? Billboard lights? How about pool lights? Isn't there a light parade on the Lagoon?

There is a massive difference between excuses and possibilities. But that is the first thing you guys go for the good old apologist angle. You all need a new put down, that one never has made sense and isn't working toward that direction just because it is said often.

Thematically, the hotel is based on Hotel Del Coronado and others of that style. These hotels are adorned with lights. The Grand Floridian was designed and has been maintained with lights. The imagineers added this design element. If it wasn't a part of the intended theme it wouldn't be there. I believe your argument with the lights is specious based on it's design.

I really would like to end this discussion because I stated ages ago that it was my opinion that it looked better without them.

I think many participants in this thread have noted your opinion about the lights and their existence. Feel free to visit other threads as that will end the discussion for you. I doubt you are being compelled to participate by threats of bodily harm. If so, try to escape and alert the authorities.

Calling me names will not in any way, shape or form change that opinion, so let's just, excuse me... Let it Go!

I can always count on you for a laugh. Even if we are laughing at different things.

*1023*

 

[lazyboy97o]

People in Florida don't have Christmas lights? I am sure I've seen The Osborne Family lights. What about street lights? Billboard lights? How about pool lights? Isn't there a light parade on the Lagoon?

They'll all be shut down but only after every last bulb has burnt out because nothing shows intent like dragging something out for years. The parks will then switch to only being open during daylight hours so as not to risk needing any dangerous exterior lighting.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Now you're using "fire hazard" as a justification for removing these? Really? You might as well shut down every single electronic device at WDW that gets exposed to any water whatsoever with that logic. You couldn't even begin to count the amount of stuff we would lose to allow this. That pretty much ensures every single water ride in existence needs to go, especially ones with animatronics that are either partially submerged in water (Jungle Cruise) or constantly being splashed with water or exposed to the airborne water vapor (Splash Mountain, Living with the Land and Pirates).

I live in Naples, and tons of people decorate their houses with trim lighting here. Fully exposed to the harsh Florida elements. We even have a boat parade down by the coast with all the boats decorated with tons of Christmas lights, it's basically a nighttime light parade only on water (which actually would be a really cool idea for a Disney park IMHO). Multiple cities in Florida do this sort of light parade on the water too, it's quite common.

 

[Disneygal1]

Well, aren't you sweet. When you can't verbalize what you feel or someone, me for example, says that I don't buy that or think it is relevant, then I am saying stupid things. If you had bothered to read what I have written, I never once said that it was inappropriate or that I disliked it on main street. In fact I said the opposite. I said that the Hotel shouldn't compete with Main Street USA for bright lights and justified gaudiness.

Electric lights, strung across a roof, in the extreme weather that Florida can get wouldn't possibly be a fire hazard? Really? Electricity and water all of a sudden mix well? There is a massive difference between excuses and possibilities. But that is the first thing you guys go for the good old apologist angle. You all need a new put down, that one never has made sense and isn't working toward that direction just because it is said often.

I really would like to end this discussion because I stated ages ago that it was my opinion that it looked better without them. Calling me names will not in any way, shape or form change that opinion, so let's just, excuse me... Let it Go!

Speaking of fire hazards, maybe WDW should just get rid of their fireworks- especially since that's what causes everything to catch on fire.

 

[marni1971]

If you are talking about the many little white lights going vertically on the outside of the Contemporary there have been various outages the past few years.

No... The original orange / sodium uplighting along the 1-3 floor exterior walls and the gable end spot lighting.

Has it really been that long?

 

[xdan0920]

Such a bummer that the GF is still dark.

 

[ford91exploder]

Such a bummer that the GF is still dark.

It probably put some GF exec over the line for his bonus,

Yet at the Del Coronado they can keep ALL their bulbs lit even in CALIFORNIA where you need a permit for EVERYTHING they must be a non-profit or something because the bulbs are out at GF because 'Diznee is a Bizness'..., And how can you keep those record profits alive if you are maintaining details which no one cares about....

 

[Goofyernmost]

People in Florida don't have Christmas lights? I am sure I've seen The Osborne Family lights. What about street lights? Billboard lights? How about pool lights? Isn't there a light parade on the Lagoon?

I can always count on you for a laugh. Even if we are laughing at different things.

And everyone of those have sat, stagnant, on top of the roof of a building for 20 plus years. Exposed to sunlight temperatures in the lower 100's if not higher, winds, rain, etc. Come on you guys can do better then that, especially since I didn't say that was a the problem, I said it is possible. I stick to what I said. All those other things are free standing and no one is sleeping under them in a wooden frame building. All they will do on those other things is short out. So keep trying!

Oh, yea and thanks for taking the high road and not attempting to insult me. Oh, Wait! I guess you did in a more back handed passive aggressive way. Fortunately, for me, my self worth is not based on your opinion of me.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Now you're using "fire hazard" as a justification for removing these? Really?

Might I recommend learning how to read past the part that "offends" you. I didn't say anything of the sort. I put it out there as a possibility as to why they are shut off now. I believe that @marni1971 implied that they were coming back. So, again if you guys were to stop ineffectively attacking me, we can move on, but, I doubt that you will.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Again to mention my hometown, it's not just temporary Christmas lights. There are tons of restaurants and hotels in the area with permanent trim lighting on the outside (fully exposed to all the heat, humidity, salt air etc). Here are a couple of examples of the downtown area of 5th Avenue-

And down the road a bit past Bonita Springs, the Estero area has an upscale mall called Coconut Point. A great many of the buildings there have traditional trim lighting.

 

[Gabriel Garcia]

Really enjoyed reading this one. I really like the lights as most of you do but im sure its a hassle to keep changing them so often.

 

[wdisney9000]

Really enjoyed reading this one. I really like the lights as most of you do but im sure its a hassle to keep changing them so often.

They dont seem to have a hassle collecting $600 per night from guests staying there. It also did not seem to ever be a hassle from the hotels grand opening through the next 25 years+.

 

[ParentsOf4]

Respect your opinion and maybe just maybe they are waiting for them to mostly all go out to replace with all new lights/LEDs. That is possible! Think positive!

I'll think positive ...

A company that made a record $7.5 billion in net income in 2014 positively can afford to replace light bulbs.

 

[marni1971]

I believe that @marni1971 implied that they were coming back..

I was expecting them to be replaced with LED when the DVC wing was completed.

There again I'm also still waiting for the Space Mountain lighting package too...

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Really enjoyed reading this one. I really like the lights as most of you do but im sure its a hassle to keep changing them so often.

I'm quite sure it's a hassle. So I guess it's a good thing that they've got a constant and massive stream of people paying $600+ (goes well above $1000 for some rooms) per night to ensure they can continue to do so.

Or alternatively, if the poor little executives can't deal with the "hassle" and "expense" to continue changing the bulbs anymore, they're blessed with access to mature 2015 LED technology now capable of properly emulating the traditional warm amber colored incandescent trim lighting (and becoming more reasonably priced all the time)-

 

[Gabriel Garcia]

They dont seem to have a hassle collecting $600 per night from guests staying there. It also did not seem to ever be a hassle from the hotels grand opening through the next 25 years+.

Well, that would mean their would be ever going cherry pickers on site with work going on so I prefer them being out every now and then but thats just me.

 

[Bocabear]

With Modern LED lighting they can change them once and done for about 5 years...as others have stated, they have gotten the correct color now...it is just a matter of getting it done...
and none of that lighting is Rope Light. They could even outsource replacing the bulbs... They just have to budget it and do it...and that is that.
They clearly do not care.
We replace lighting constantly...and light the perimeter of the Gaylord Palms Hotel every year... We manage to keep the lights going...I am sure Disney could too...if they wanted to.

 

[ford91exploder]

I'll think positive ...

A company that made a record $7.5 billion in net income in 2014 positively can afford to replace light bulbs.

But NOT replacing those "useless and wasteful details" helped them get that 7.5 Billion payday...

 

[wdisney9000]

Well, that would mean their would be ever going cherry pickers on site with work going on so I prefer them being out every now and then but thats just me.

Where were all the cherry pickers for the first 25 years of the resort when the lights were maintained properly? It was pointed out earlier that there was a procedure of replacing all bulbs when they were at 80% of their lifespan, but that was eliminated in order to save a few bucks.

 

[ford91exploder]

With Modern LED lighting they can change them once and done for about 5 years...as others have stated, they have gotten the correct color now...it is just a matter of getting it done...
and none of that lighting is Rope Light. They could even outsource replacing the bulbs... They just have to budget it and do it...and that is that.
They clearly do not care.
We replace lighting constantly...and light the perimeter of the Gaylord Palms Hotel every year... We manage to keep the lights going...I am sure Disney could too...if they wanted to.

But they don't want to... Yet the far smaller outfit which runs the Hotel Del Coronado (GF's prototype) can afford to replace bulbs in CA where they probably need a permit to replace and dispose of the expired bulbs...