Rope Lights Outlining Roofs on Deluxe Resorts Diminishing?

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Rescue Ranger

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Seeing this at Grand Floridan for years has REALLY been bothering me. Replace the damn bulbs. It's pretty simple. Don't want to? Then just remove them all, Disney.

Partially burnt out is far worse than not having them at all. Looks terrible when the rest of the resort is so beautiful. Showcases no pride. Many years ago you'd never see a burnt out bulb ANYWHERE.
 

DougK

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Is now the time to ask when the Contemporarys A-Frame uplighting was last seen working?

If you are talking about the many little white lights going vertically on the outside of the Contemporary there have been various outages the past few years. For a while one side was all turned on and one side was all turned off. Then one time we were there and every other row of those lights was on and every other row was off and this was on both sides of the building. As for recent times we just had our first stay in the Contemporary Tower in a few years in early May. For what it's worth we stayed on the Bay Lake side. Anyway the 4 rows of lights on the north end of the Bay Lake side were turned on at night and all of the other rows of lights on that side, plus all of the lights on the MK side, were not lit during any of the 3 nights we were there. The pattern changes have been very strange to say the least and I would love to know why.

I happened to ask a CM who seemed to have some intimate knowledge of the operations and both the Contemporary and the Polynesian while we were there and he said, and take this for what it is worth but at least this is not a bus driver rumor, that they replaced all of the bulbs on both sides of the Tower a few years ago for energy conservation purposes, every single bulb, and the old wiring from 1971 for some reason cannot handle these lights. He said they simply have all kinds of problems with them. He did not know or say if the problem would ever be fixed except he kind of hinted there is a huge update coming to the Contemporary, "along the lines of what they have done at the Polynesian" (meaning lots of infrastructure improvements, not adding DVC or bungalows!) in the next few years and this and many other issues will be addressed. This includes a brand new lobby also.

As I said take it for what it is worth. He was nice enough to chat with me and my wife for about 20 minutes. I left with a feeling that many CMs at Disney DO get it, even things like replacing or fixing light bulbs, and they fight hard to get improvements made but things move very slowly there.
 

sxeensweet

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Whether its an excuse or a reason, is that any type of service that a guest paying $400-800 per night deserves?
True but I have paid that many times and stayed there as well and last time was Dec 2013 and frankly still my pure opinion that (the lights) does not personally bother me even when paying those prices. We always have stayed at Deluxe including GF every single trip even before we joined DVC 5/13. It may bother some that pay that steep price to stay there but for me and DH it does not. Purely our opinion. :)
 
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sxeensweet

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Goofyernmost

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If Disney builds new stuff they should maintain the staff to maintain that stuff.


No, the theme is turn-of-the-century, seaside, luxury hotel. Such places showed off their electrification. The lights are part of the theme. You might as well say Cowboys would be bad decoration in Frontierland.
Well, maybe with any luck when the put the lights back up they will remove the TV's, Refrigerators, Microwaves, Telephones (WiFi) and Air Conditioning along with that add back horses and buggy's, no Monorail stops and go whole hog on the turn of the century theme.
 

sxeensweet

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Well, maybe with any luck when the put the lights back up they will remove the TV's, Refrigerators, Microwaves, Telephones (WiFi) and Air Conditioning along with that add back horses and buggy's, no Monorail stops and go whole hog on the turn of the century theme.
LOL! well put! I did get their point about it but thanks for making me laugh! ;)
 

lazyboy97o

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Well, maybe with any luck when the put the lights back up they will remove the TV's, Refrigerators, Microwaves, Telephones (WiFi) and Air Conditioning along with that add back horses and buggy's, no Monorail stops and go whole hog on the turn of the century theme.
That is a museum, not a themed experience. The point is to sense the part, not be it. Exuberant lighting was a signature element of such hotels, regardless of what you know or like.
 

Goofyernmost

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LOL! well put! I did get their point about it but thanks for making me laugh! ;)
Yes, I also understand their point, I just don't think that symbolic flashback to the turn of the century, which BTW, no one living then currently survives, is beyond meaningless and just pick and choose what we consider relevant for relating to the early 1900's. "Yes, I need the lights to be authentic early 20th Century hotels, but don't take away my 21st Century luxury's".
 

Goofyernmost

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That is a museum, not a themed experience. The point is to sense the part, not be it. Exuberant lighting was a signature element of such hotels, regardless of what you know or like.
Sorry, but having all the modern luxury's is not a themed experience. Having lights on the roof tops, is not a themed experience it is a decoration. Might have been widely used in the early part of that century, but, it has little to no direct identification with what a Luxury was like at that time. It only said we have lights so we must be better then the others. I live in the 21st century and although I like history, I also know what I like to see and what I don't. All the justification in the world isn't going to change that any more then my telling you what my opinions are will change yours.
 

lazyboy97o

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Sorry, but having all the modern luxury's is not a themed experience. Having lights on the roof tops, is not a themed experience it is a decoration. Might have been widely used in the early part of that century, but, it has little to no direct identification with what a Luxury was like at that time. It only said we have lights so we must be better then the others. I live in the 21st century and although I like history, I also know what I like to see and what I don't. All the justification in the world isn't going to change that any more then my telling you what my opinions are will change yours.
No, lighting is not just decoration. People not knowing why something is part of a theme make it a detail.
And again, how such hotels looked is not a matter of your opinion. It's still trying to remove Cowboys from Frontierland because you don't like the way they look.
 

Goofyernmost

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No, lighting is not just decoration. People not knowing why something is part of a theme make it a detail.
And again, how such hotels looked is not a matter of your opinion. It's still trying to remove Cowboys from Frontierland because you don't like the way they look.
Just to try and end this never ending topic... I am not trying to remove the lights, I merely stated that I like it better without them and why. Take that for what it is worth. Let me just repeat... "I like the looks of it much better without the lights". I don't agree that it just screams turn of the century luxury to anyone. It looks cheap and tacky to me to be on a luxury 21st century hotel even if it is trying to tell today's audience that it is a trying to look like a Turn of Last Century Luxury Hotel. The surroundings are nice, I'm sure, but, those lights are only seen by people passing by or entering. Once they enter they are not longer seen and therefore useless. They don't change the interior experience one little bit.

Out in the weather of Central Florida, they might add an element of fire hazard to it though.
 

dgp602

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I feel the same way and still feel Disney is well above anyone else. I went to Uni In 2013 and the difference is night and day!, so I don't see how some lights out brings it down in quality enough to gripe about. Disney still far surpasses ANY and all competition so that is where my opinion comes from. I breathe Disney so yes I do care just as much as any fellow Disney addict but still don't stress and get bothered by things like the lights at the Resorts! It's not like they are out in the parks! But I'm sure there are some people quick to point that out and will probably tell me I must have missed that too. Lol
Oh and another thing I HIGHLY DOUBT LIKE THE ABOVE SAID IT COULD GO DOWN IN QUALITY AND END UP LIKE SIX FLAGS!!!!!! I have been to many Six Flags parks as well and still difference is night and day!!! Never dreaded leaving any other park to where I get depressed! Only Disney does that to me! Lol. Sorry if I'm not gloom and doom that these little things will lead to the park's demise or downfall!!! :)

Where in my post did I even remotely say Disney will end up like Six Flags? I said "I expect lights to be out at UNI and Six Flags". Using all caps and misquoting me? Silly..and unnecessary. If you want to respond to my comments, don't change my point and purpose to suit whatever agenda you have, which in this case appears to be to show the rest of us on here how happy and stress free your Disney experience is compared to the rest of us.

My point, before you misquoted me and took my comment out of content to make whatever point you were trying to make, was that WE, all of US, expect more from Disney. Burnt out bulbs doesn't stress anyone out. But people paying top dollar to stay at a deluxe resort should not only expect the best in show, they should DEMAND it from Disney. ( and please take note of the proper use of capital letters and my ability to quote properly, without taking another persons comments out of content ).
 
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Phil12

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I'm concerned about LED lighting. LED's can last for up to 50,000 hours so that means a lamp that runs 6 hours per day can last for 23 years! To think that we might see decades go by without a burned out light on the exterior of the GF is worrisome. Might as well replace the grand piano in the lobby with a Moog synthesizer.
 

Phil12

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Where in my post did I even remotely say Disney will end up like Six Flags? I said "I expect lights to be out at UNI and Six Flags". Using all caps and misquoting me? Silly..and unnecessary. If you want to respond to my comments, don't change my point and purpose to suit whatever agenda you have, which in this case appears to be to show the rest of us on how happy and stress free your Disney experience is compared to the rest of us.

My point, before you misquoted me and took my comment out of content to make whatever point you were trying to make, was that WE, all of US, expect more from Disney. Burnt out bulbs doesn't stress anyone out. But people paying top dollar to stay at a deluxe resort should not only expect the best in show, they should DEMAND it from Disney. ( and please take note of the proper use of capital letters and my ability to quote properly, without taking another persons comment's out of content ).
I corrected that for you.
 

sxeensweet

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Where in my post did I even remotely say Disney will end up like Six Flags? I said "I expect lights to be out at UNI and Six Flags". Using all caps and misquoting me? Silly..and unnecessary. If you want to respond to my comments, don't change my point and purpose to suit whatever agenda you have, which in this case appears to be to show the rest of us on here how happy and stress free your Disney experience is compared to the rest of us.

My point, before you misquoted me and took my comment out of content to make whatever point you were trying to make, was that WE, all of US, expect more from Disney. Burnt out bulbs doesn't stress anyone out. But people paying top dollar to stay at a deluxe resort should not only expect the best in show, they should DEMAND it from Disney. ( and please take note of the proper use of capital letters and my ability to quote properly, without taking another persons comments out of content ).
I know you did not say that I said "like above" meaning the poster above my post not you!!! Sorry I did not point out the name of the other poster or quote their post and they did not even say the specific line I used I was just giving an example that I thought Disney will not let it go
Down that far etc. I was answering the the last few posts not just yours!! Geez! So no I did not misquote YOU!!! I'm over this whole thread seriously! Not changing anything around to my personal advantage and was making another OPINION! And frankly you don't have to like or understand my opinion if you don't want to. :)
 
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