Rope Lights Outlining Roofs on Deluxe Resorts Diminishing?

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sxeensweet

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I don't see it as a broken theme. The theme is quality hotel. The lights are decoration. It's you folks that cannot get past that.
Amen!!!! Thank you someone is making some sense instead of insisting I don't know or I miss stuff happening around me. Even got accused I don't know my DVC contract and I'm "entitled". If I was one of those "entitled" folks I would complain about some silly lights as I Would want perfection for my money spent! Lol :)
 

wdisney9000

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I breathe Disney so yes I do care just as much as any fellow Disney addict but still don't stress and get bothered by things like the lights at the Resorts! It's not like they are out in the parks!
I think the confusion is that your taking it as people (at least some of us), are "stressing" or "complaining" about lights being burned out but thats not necessarily the case. For me personally, it in no way ruins my vacation. I dont spend time staring at them and biting my fingernails getting stressed. It just bothers me that of all the issues that plague WDW, such as the ones you mentioned about food, service, etc, this particular one is such a simple fix. A problem that in the past, was dealt with swiftly if it even occurred at all to begin with, which was rare. Now it seems as if it doesnt even matter to the company.

Its gotten worse over the last 5-10 years and doesnt appear to be getting any better. So now I worry about what could be next. Paint, upkeep, landscaping, cleanliness? It could be anything. And again, Im not stressing over it, but if something so simple as replacing a light bulb does not matter to them, why would other basic chores? My wife asked me to unclog a drain today. I didnt just ignore it because we have another sink she could use. I fixed it. 5 minutes of my time. If a bulb burns out, send someone up there and replace it, not wait until every bulb burns out and then say, "well, it will cost too much time and money to replace them all so screw it".

I do completely respect your opinion and appreciate that you havent exploded and threatened to leave the discussion as so many other people would do in the face of several others questioning their opinion. Kudos for stating your case and not running away.
 

Goofyernmost

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Its the sum of the parts that make up the whole. While pesky little things such as light bulbs are not a big deal individually, they are in fact a small detail that helps complete an overall image that in turn plays a role in the experience. Disney uses that word (experience) constantly in advertising, on their blogs and in any way they can to make their image more appealing. They sell you that very experience.

At what point do all the pesky, nit picky, teeny tiny details start to have a cumulative effect on the overall experience? For someone like yourself it may take quite a bit before it begins to alter your experience but there has to be a breaking point. The deterioration starts with the tiny details and if left unchecked it will only be allowed to happen with larger aspects because as far as the company is concerned, no one seemed to care. It could take quite awhile for that breaking point to actually happen, but when it does, all the people who thought that burnt out light bulbs didnt matter will be wondering how the experience became so different than it was 10 years ago. Kinda like how people feel about the WDW of the 90's now.

Ive seen you say on several occasions that if it ever got to that point you would simply stop going. But is that the best attitude to have? "Ride it till the wheels off"? Some of us would prefer to simply change the oil and balance the tires and keep it going. If you care about something, all of it, not just part of it, you understand that the tiniest part is just as important as the largest part. Probly how Walt felt about it, IMO.
I believe in every case I stated that "If I no longer enjoyed my time at WDW I would stop going". I never once had that hinge on one or two details that are, in this case, no more the dressing that have meaning only to those that know or think they know the reason for it. I have disliked those lights since the building was put up, but, it hasn't stopped me from immensely enjoying my visits. I did then and I do now feel that the place looks better and is more conducive to my possibly spending that kind of money per night if they weren't there because right now the place has no appeal for me. The Hotel, not the entire resort.
 

wdisney9000

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They are supposed to come every 4th day!!!! They did not do that and took pulling teeth to get them to come and when they did they couldn't even take out all the little trash we had and replace all the towels , toilet paper etc!!!!! And we had several other problems with them in the same stay last Nov 14.

Is there a difference in terms of service between bad housekeeping and bad maintenance? Its these types of lower standards that people have allowed the company to get away with and which is why the company cuts back in every area they can. If people dont care about how the resort looks on the outside, why should they care about the inside?
 

sxeensweet

Love a little Disney every day!! ;)
I think the confusion is that your taking it as people (at least some of us), are "stressing" or "complaining" about lights being burned out but thats not necessarily the case. For me personally, it in no way ruins my vacation. I dont spend time staring at them and biting my fingernails getting stressed. It just bothers me that of all the issues that plague WDW, such as the ones you mentioned about food, service, etc, this particular one is such a simple fix. A problem that in the past, was dealt with swiftly if it even occurred at all to begin with, which was rare. Now it seems as if it doesnt even matter to the company.

Its gotten worse over the last 5-10 years and doesnt appear to be getting any better. So now I worry about what could be next. Paint, upkeep, landscaping, cleanliness? It could be anything. And again, Im not stressing over it, but if something so simple as replacing a light bulb does not matter to them, why would other basic chores? My wife asked me to unclog a drain today. I didnt just ignore it because we have another sink she could use. I fixed it. 5 minutes of my time. If a bulb burns out, send someone up there and replace it, not wait until every bulb burns out and then say, "well, it will cost too much time and money to replace them all so screw it".

I do completely respect your opinion and appreciate that you havent exploded and threatened to leave the discussion as so many other people would do in the face of several others questioning their opinion. Kudos for stating your case and not running away.
See Thank You I respect how you are putting it and I do get it. I don't see the need to accuse me (not you) that I do not care about the overall quality like others threw at me! I do complain when I feel it's not just something small etc. I only stated my opinion that not the OP herself because they are all out, but the others that say something when only a few are out and such. Still if they respect my opinion I have no problem with their opinion. Name calling and all that I'm "entitled" and don't know my DVC contract or saying I must never have a problem with anything is uncalled for and there is proof on these boards that is not true. My issues usually are just larger than the lights but still like you it never ruins my vacation etc. So thank you for understanding and not accusing me of stuff that is not true or assumptions! I never do that to people as I don't think that is right and try to be as nice as I can at all times. Today that is hard! Lol. :)
 

sxeensweet

Love a little Disney every day!! ;)
Is there a difference in terms of service between bad housekeeping and bad maintenance? Its these types of lower standards that people have allowed the company to get away with and which is why the company cuts back in every area they can. If people dont care about how the resort looks on the outside, why should they care about the inside?
I get that but In my opinion again my opinion I don't find with the lights out the resort looks bad itself. Now if the outside of the buildings were falling apart , needed desperate painting , grounds were not kept and looked unruly then I would have a problem! This is not the case. The resorts still look pristine on the outside in my opinion and the lights are just not for me personally a huge issue in quality of how the resorts look overall on the outside. They are nice at night but not a must for me to be happy with the look. :)
 

wdisney9000

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See Thank You I respect how you are putting it and I do get it. I don't see the need to accuse me (not you) that I do not care about the overall quality like others threw at me! I do complain when I feel it's not just something small etc. I only stated my opinion that not the OP herself because they are all out, but the others that say something when only a few are out and such. Still if they respect my opinion I have no problem with their opinion. Name calling and all that I'm "entitled" and don't know my DVC contract or saying I must never have a problem with anything is uncalled for and there is proof on these boards that is not true. My issues usually are just larger than the lights but still like you it never ruins my vacation etc. So thank you for understanding and not accusing me of stuff that is not true or assumptions! I never do that to people as I don't think that is right and try to be as nice as I can at all times. Today that is hard! Lol. :)
I think we have all had days on this site that can be a bit overwhelming. Its easy to mistake passion as anger, especially when its all done via text/type. Ive been on both sides of that coin a few times. Beer helps!
 

sxeensweet

Love a little Disney every day!! ;)
I think we have all had days on this site that can be a bit overwhelming. Its easy to mistake passion as anger, especially when its all done via text/type. Ive been on both sides of that coin a few times. Beer helps!
Yeah I have been there before too but it's been a really long time and thought I would never allow it to happen again after the last time! I was wrong! Lol. I might have that drink today. Lol :rolleyes:
 

wdisney9000

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I get that but In my opinion again my opinion I don't find with the lights out the resort looks bad itself. Now if the outside of the buildings were falling apart , needed desperate painting , grounds were not kept and looked unruly then I would have a problem! This is not the case. The resorts still look pristine on the outside in my opinion and the lights are just not for me personally a huge issue in quality of how the resorts look overall on the outside. :)
Major structural issues are one thing, simple light bulbs could be fixed in minutes. Its a small chore. You were upset about something as small as Mousekeeping not replacing the towels. (not being a smart a$$). I could easily say, "you could just walk down the front desk and get towels". Thats seems silly because they have mousekeeping for that very reason so why should you? Same for maintenance, they have people for that, so it should be done. You said yourself that it was like pulling teeth to get them to come service your room. That shoudnt ever appen nor would it have happened 10-20 years ago when standards were higher. Its a slippery slope.
 
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danlb_2000

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I get that but In my opinion again my opinion I don't find with the lights out the resort looks bad itself. Now if the outside of the buildings were falling apart , needed desperate painting , grounds were not kept and looked unruly then I would have a problem! This is not the case. The resorts still look pristine on the outside in my opinion and the lights are just not for me personally a huge issue in quality of how the resorts look overall on the outside. They are nice at night but not a must for me to be happy with the look. :)

I don't know what the current state of the lights is, but if they look like this, then to me that is as bad the the buildings needing painting or the ground looking unkempt.

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sxeensweet

Love a little Disney every day!! ;)
I don't know what the current state of the lights is, but if they look like this, then to me that is as bad the the buildings needing painting or the ground looking unkempt.

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Respect your opinion and maybe just maybe they are waiting for them to mostly all go out to replace with all new lights/LEDs. That is possible! Think positive! :)
 

sxeensweet

Love a little Disney every day!! ;)
Major structural issues are one thing, simple light bulbs could be fixed in minutes. Its a small chore. You were upset about something as small as Mousekeeping not replacing the towels. (not being a smart a$$). I could easily say, "you could just walk down the front desk and get towels". Thats seems silly because they have mousekeeping for that very reason so why should you? Same for maintenance, they have people for that, so it should be done. You said yourself that it was like pulling teeth to get them to come service your room. That shoudnt ever appen nor would it have happened 10-20 years ago when standards were higher. Its a slippery slope.
Agree with some of your points but it also it was not just not replacing the towels. We had numerous issues with them. So I guess I have to go to the front desk for towels (we did have to end up doing that and get them to find some toilet part for us too at 2am!!) and toilet paper, and go dispose of a
Our trash ourselves, and accept being talked to rudely and even told you have to be out EARLY AM to get serviced eventhough they have 2 shifts of housekeepers for earlier day/then until 11pm in the evening etc. We even called once we left and were told no problem they will come (this is day after 4th day) and then they still did not come 12 hours later as of when we got back at 2am. Then called on our 6th day to remind to come and came back late and still never came after a good 12-14 hours we were gone again!! So it was more than not bringing us new towels!! There is more to It also but I would be here explaining all day. I would NEVER make a big deal out of just needing some towels! :)
 
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lazyboy97o

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That is not what I meant!!!!! I meant it would take longer to get to them to change or fix them!!!!!! Geez you people drive me nuts on these boards sometimes! You will turn anything someone says into something you want it to mean. :banghead::banghead:
If Disney builds new stuff they should maintain the staff to maintain that stuff.

I don't see it as a broken theme. The theme is quality hotel. The lights are decoration. It's you folks that cannot get past that.
No, the theme is turn-of-the-century, seaside, luxury hotel. Such places showed off their electrification. The lights are part of the theme. You might as well say Cowboys would be bad decoration in Frontierland.
 
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sxeensweet

Love a little Disney every day!! ;)
I was thinking positive when I saw the headlines for Indiana Jones themed bar. Then I read what it would be.
Again my opinion I still think it's cool and a welcome addition but to each there own! lol I guess overall I just try to be positive about all things. I get pushed to my limits with some things that happen to me but usually find something positive about every situation. Not every time but usually find something positive! That irks a lot of people (not talking about you to be clear lol) I have noticed in my lifetime. But that's just me and how I choose
To look at most (not all) things in my life daily. :)
 
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danlb_2000

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I know but again the OP said they were now all out so like mentioned they may have been waiting for them ALL to go out first. :)

I would also find that un-acceptable. If they were going to let them burn out little by little they should have just turned them off. Not to mention there would be no reason to wait, the cost of a few light bulbs is trivial for a company the size of Disney.
 
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