EPCOT Remy's Ratatouille Adventure coming to Epcot

[SpoiledBlueMilk]

I know enough French to fill the back of a matchbox but I enjoyed the ride at DLP. People need to relax.

 

[DonaldDoleWhip]

had to FORCE my kids to take Spanish in HS. You'd thought I punished them! I so wished I learned it when I was in school. But, learning BASIC counted as a language so I got out of my language requirement!

Good for you (and your kids) - they’ll be that much better off even for having a basic exposure! (And not that kind of BASIC haha)

My experience was different - I started with Italian in middle school because the teacher made it so engaging (have no Italian ancestry at all, just loved learning it), then added French in high school because my grandparents lived in France at the time and I really wanted exposure to both.

Not that it helps me now, but I remain incredibly proud of my perfect score on the AP French exam; also still impresses people when I pronounce “pot de crème” correctly.

Not only that, but to this day I still watch things in French and Italian (WandaVision is even more romantic when Visione is speaking italiano!), and it’s a dimension of my life I’m eager to maintain, despite the challenges.

To think Ratatouille could be the springboard that inspires someone to learn French. Now that’s cool, IMO.

 

[DonaldDoleWhip]

I know enough French to fill the back of a matchbox but I enjoyed the ride at DLP. People need to relax.

This is a discussion forum where people care deeply about everything from trash can design to gradient of the pavement.

Don’t think there’s a single topic that warrants saying others need to relax, simply because it’s a non-factor to you.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

This is a discussion forum where people care deeply about everything from trash can design to gradient of the pavement.

Don’t think there’s a single topic that warrants saying others need to relax, simply because it’s a non-factor to you.

But, but, but...telling people things they care about aren't important is COOL! /s

 

[SpoiledBlueMilk]

This is a discussion forum where people care deeply about everything from trash can design to gradient of the pavement.

Don’t think there’s a single topic that warrants saying others need to relax, simply because it’s a non-factor to you.

But, but, but...telling people things they care about aren't important is COOL! /s

Not trying to tell people not to care. Just trying to say that riding an attraction in the France pavilion that includes French shouldn't be a concern. Just roll with it. Anyway, wouldn't having it translated 100% in English break the theming?

 

[DonaldDoleWhip]

Not trying to tell people not to care. Just trying to say that riding an attraction in the France pavilion that includes French shouldn't be a concern. Just roll with it. Anyway, wouldn't having it translated 100% in English break the theming?

See my post on the Emile vs. Remy mentality - to me, this isn’t a matter of not being able to follow along. Obviously we all can, as the plot is as basic as it gets.

Rather, it’s going the extra mile (something Disney used to do by default, see Indiana Jones in 1995) and providing an optional resource for those inspired to learn more, using one of those nifty apps that already provides beyond-pointless trivia and interactivity.

To those who don’t care, of course you aren’t missing anything! That’s clearly not everyone, though.

 

[castlecake2.0]

I still don’t get why no one cares about the majority of Canada’s theme song being in French?

 

[James Alucobond]

See my post on the Emile vs. Remy mentality - to me, this isn’t a matter of not being able to follow along. Obviously we all can, as the plot is as basic as it gets.

Rather, it’s going the extra mile (something Disney used to do by default, see Indiana Jones in 1995) and providing an optional resource for those inspired to learn more, using one of those nifty apps that already provides beyond-pointless trivia and interactivity.

To those who don’t care, of course you aren’t missing anything! That’s clearly not everyone, though.

I often agree with what you have to say, but this seems the most minute of all minutiae to nitpick. Even multilingual children’s shows have started to move this direction, where it’s more about understanding the sentiment of supporting phrases in another language rather than repeating what was already said verbatim in English or providing some sort of written guide. I think we can all agree that there would be differences had this been built in WDW first, but I also don’t see a problem with presenting it as-is given the context.

 

[DonaldDoleWhip]

I often agree with what you have to say, but this seems the most minute of all minutiae to nitpick. Even multilingual children’s shows have started to move this direction, where it’s more about understanding the sentiment of supporting phrases in another language rather than repeating what was already said verbatim in English or providing some sort of written guide. I think we can all agree that there would be differences had this been built in WDW first, but I also don’t see a problem with presenting it as-is given the context.

You're allowed to feel that way. Clearly you're not alone. Neither am I, given more than one user has expressed disappointment with the dialogue situation.

I'm not even disappointed myself; I find the French charming! It was clearly the cheapest, easiest solution, but I personally like it.

However, I absolutely think Epcot in the 80s and 90s would have extended an olive branch to those who'd like to understand further, on their own time. "Who cares, you can google it" (which most curious individuals still won't do; they'll immediately move onto their next Genie booking or snack stop) is a sad reflection of where we are.

I still don’t get why no one cares about the majority of Canada’s theme song being in French?

A song in another language is one thing, and there's a decent precedent of that. Reminds me of all the childrens' wishes added to ToN when it became the Tapestry of Dreams, as well as what we're getting with Harmonious. Then of course there's IASW! Music is more universal, even when you don't understand it.

 

[SpoiledBlueMilk]

I still don’t get why no one cares about the majority of Canada’s theme song being in French?

....because it's Canada?

 

[castlecake2.0]

....because it's Canada?

That's what I was getting at lol

 

[disneygeek90]

I'm confused there's so much discussion about the French language being included in the ride. That takes place in France. In the French pavilion of Epcot. I have not watched a ride through of the Paris version in years, but it makes sense and seems more authentic to hear French while scurrying through the restaurant.

As someone who hasn't been able to see any international parks yet, I'm excited to get a little taste of how it feels being in a completely different environment and not having every single word catered to my language.

I agree it would be nice if there was some further language teaching moment available, but that's something that would enhance the experience, not something that's necessarily needed in regards to the standalone ride.

 

[JBIRDTO]

I still don’t get why no one cares about the majority of Canada’s theme song being in French?

French is an official language in Canada. Every product and most services legally have to be bilingual. It was likely a requirement for the pavilion by Canada. Arguably it is a very important part of Canadian culture. Most of Canadians do not speak French however we accept that often we will have to listen to French in broadcasts or events.

 

[disneygeek90]

I still don’t get why no one cares about the majority of Canada’s theme song being in French?

Quebec is the second largest province by population and the official language is French.

 

[J4546]

French is an official language in Canada. Every product and most services legally have to be bilingual. It was likely a requirement for the pavilion by Canada. Arguably it is a very important part of Canadian culture. Most of Canadians do not speak French however we accept that often we will have to listen to French in broadcasts or events.

french is also the official language in france....

 

[castlecake2.0]

French is an official language in Canada. Every product and most services legally have to be bilingual. It was likely a requirement for the pavilion by Canada. Arguably it is a very important part of Canadian culture. Most of Canadians do not speak French however we accept that often we will have to listen to French in broadcasts or events.

I know that, I’m Canadian lol. The government had no input in the design or operation of the pavilion. What I was getting at is that it seems weird that there has never been any outrage about the French in Canada’s attraction like there is in France’s new attraction.

 

[J4546]

some people on this site love to be outraged. its just the way it is unfortunately.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I know that, I’m Canadian lol. The government had no input in the design or operation of the pavilion. What I was getting at is that it seems weird that there has never been any outrage about the French in Canada’s attraction like there is in France’s new attraction.

There is no outrage.

 

[JBIRDTO]

I know that, I’m Canadian lol. The government had no input in the design or operation of the pavilion. What I was getting at is that it seems weird that there has never been any outrage about the French in Canada’s attraction like there is in France’s new attraction.

It was a different time when the pavilion opened and guests perhaps appreciated the diversity and mystery of other countries. Less entitlement and need to comment or have a counter argument on everything. It added to the authenticity and immersive aspect. If this attraction was opened back then we likely would not hear the same comments as today. And the internet was still in its infancy. Whether they did this for budget reasons or not I love the fact it includes both languages.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I still don’t get why no one cares about the majority of Canada’s theme song being in French?

Dumb Canucks need to just pick one language! Preferably English, the language of the Free.