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[GoofGoof]

The right. Moderates are decreasing in numbers. Both sides are moving farther apart. Not good for the country as a whole.

The parties are moving to the extremes not the people. There are more independents than Dems or Reps. More people are leaving both parties because of the extremes.

 

[harry58]

Just read a really odd update on this in the Orlando Sentinel Article states "NONE" of what is in Disney's complaint, and goes to extremes quoting all of the problems that the new board has with Disney. While they dont overtly support those claims, is odd that none of Disney's complaint is referenced.

 

[Brian]

Unless you specifically say otherwise it would look like you are agreeing or endorsing the content of the article you are posting.

It’s interesting that nobody was claiming or critiquing that I was agreeing with the content of the clip I posted of Nikki Haley dunking on DeSantis earlier. But I post a clip of DeSantis explaining his motivations, and suddenly I’m “endorsing” his position.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I can solve these step by step

I know bookings are down.

Prices and a shrinking clientele due to cost of living and credit availability decreasing

Also, Disney sit down restaurants had one of the slowest spring breaks ever.

Prices and a shrinking clientele due to cost of living and credit availability decreasing

Plus non-park divisions are definitely hurting.

Prices and a shrinking clientele due to cost of living and credit availability decreasing

 

[tallica]

The parties are moving to the extremes not the people. There are more independents than Dems or Reps. More people are leaving both parties because of the extremes.

Hope that is right.

 

[mkt]

I know bookings are down. Also, Disney sit down restaurants had one of the slowest spring breaks ever. Plus non-park divisions are definitely hurting.

huh.

We must have not been in the same WDW where it was obnoxiously busy during spring break, and where I wasn't able to get any worthwhile dining reservations.

The rest, yeah... it's the economy.

 

[tissandtully]

huh.

We must have not been in the same WDW where it was obnoxiously busy during spring break, and where I wasn't able to get any worthwhile dining reservations.

The rest, yeah... it's the economy.

Not to mention Genie+ selling out all week at the highest price it has ever been... yeah... they are gonna shutter the parks soon.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

This speech was from 4/21 (pre-lawsuit). The reason I am posting this, despite his multiple mischaracterizations of the situation, is to share DeSantis' philosophy. Many have rightfully pointed out that his actions do not comport with traditional ideological conservatism. This is his response to that.

It’s funny that I keep seeing “win” or “victory” in headlines or some speeches about the Disney battle. I must have slept through the ending. This thing is just getting started.

 

[tissandtully]

The two “holiday weeks” were busy…but it appears before and certainly after they appear to be much slower than it has been in a normal year since probably 2015

the crowd calendar is all messed up since demand pricing and covid changes, but I am definitely not an expert, more of a Len testa thing

 

[mkt]

The two “holiday weeks” were busy…but it appears before and certainly after they appear to be much slower than it has been in a normal year since probably 2015

I found it obnoxiously busy the entire period. Like we left the park early twice due to crowds.

 

[tissandtully]

Agree, but Disney increasing it's political presence is not helping.

Source?

 

[Lilofan]

Well, Disney already has one resort in South Carolina...

Disney's Hilton Head Island Resort

Relax on a beach or enjoy a wide variety of family activities at Disney’s Hilton Head Island Resort in South Carolina.

hiltonhead.disney.go.com

I'm still sad that long time CM Mick Ayres and his dog Shadow, part of the welcoming committee at DVC Hilton Head lost their jobs a few years ago due to cost savings.

 

[Touchdown]

It was great during the week last week. The least crowded I’ve seen the parks, then the cheerleaders came…

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I found it obnoxiously busy the entire period. Like we left the park early twice due to crowds.

But you’re from Florida and everyone from Florida can’t stand crowds. I’d expect nothing less.

You’re perception is likely off. As is mine because I don’t tolerate crowds either

 

[mkt]

But you’re from Florida and everyone from Florida can’t stand crowds. I’d expect nothing less.

You’re perception is likely off. As is mine because I don’t tolerate crowds either

Hey. HEY.

I live in Florida. LIVE.

I am not FROM Florida.

0% of my DNA is methgator.

Do not insult me like that.

Watch it.

 

[flynnibus]

This speech was from 4/21 (pre-lawsuit). The reason I am posting this, despite his multiple mischaracterizations of the situation, is to share DeSantis' philosophy.

I don't get this... why would you trust what he is saying as 'his philosphy' when as you point out... he's already mispresenting everything

1. They weren't "deferring to every corporation" - This was a situation the state willingly entered
2. "are we advancing the rule of law?" -- while flat out ignoring the basic tenant of the 1A?
3. Disney was never asking for "everything it wants" nor getting it

He's basically creating a false narrative and saying "this is what I am trying to defeat" -- But it's literally all based on lies to start. What can you take away from a position that doesn't even start in reality?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Hey. HEY.

I live in Florida. LIVE.

I am not FROM Florida.

0% of my DNA is methgator.

Do not insult me like that.

Watch it.

Yeah well I’m not FROM Florida either…

But I did live in it…which means I can’t tolerate crowds
And I’ve spent years in parks as a non-resident…which means I can’t tolerate crowds.

…just saying…we likely are what we are

 

[Sir_Cliff]

Corporatism would be farming out what would be the traditional role of government to corporations. You could argue the original 1967 RCID was corporatism but you could also argue the central Florida area was so under developed that this was borne out of necessity.

My understanding of corporatism is that it is a system of government that incorporates different groups into the state according to shared often professional interests, along the lines of guilds. An example would be the Mexican government under the Institutional Revolutionary Party for most of the 20th century with its peasant, worker, and popular sectors integrated into a hegemonic state party.

People (like DeSantis) use the term to imply a government that defers to corporations, but I don't think that's what it means.

 

[mkt]

I probably shouldn't let it slip that Tinker bell in the fireworks show isn't always played by a female

Eh... I know several of the performers. Not a single Y-chromosome in the bunch.

Maleficent in Fantasmic though. A Y-chromosome in every one.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I probably shouldn't let it slip that Tinker bell in the fireworks show isn't always played by a female

Shhhhh! Don’t let them know about Dave!