News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[Animaniac93-98]

Well, Disney already has one resort in South Carolina...

Disney's Hilton Head Island Resort

Relax on a beach or enjoy a wide variety of family activities at Disney’s Hilton Head Island Resort in South Carolina.

hiltonhead.disney.go.com

 

[lazyboy97o]

At some point soon the State of Florida is going to have to take the official, sworn position that “Florida’s Blueprint for America’s Future” is a lie.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

Savage. But also fair.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

On fox news no less. Lol, that's an incredible dunk.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

Might that math change when you also have a vested interest in making sure the guy you are suing doesn’t become president?

Literally nobody is worried about him becoming president.

 

[GoofGoof]

I think Disney opened a bigger Pandora's Box by being sneaky to keep control of RCID. They acted like they were going accept it and than tried to keep it last minute with clever wording. I may be wrong but I don't think much would have changed if they had lost control of RCID. Now Disney has made DeSantis even more determined to crush The Mouse. It will probably cost Disney millions in lost revenue due boycotting company wide.

Can said boycotts start right about a week before my next planned visit From what I’m hearing the parks have never been more crowded so I could use some 2 or 3 crowd days.

 

[Andrew C]

Literally nobody is worried about him becoming president.

Hah. He doesn’t have my vote but that was what they said about trump. Don’t underestimate.

 

[RamblinWreck]

Literally nobody is worried about him becoming president.

I am.

I’m personally hoping for a bitter battle between him and Trump which divides the party and forces it to reimagine itself in some way. But I don’t think he can be counted out yet. He’s had a bad week, sure. Maybe even a bad couple of months, but there’s a lot of time left.

 

[GoofGoof]

Well, no - I don't think it's unreasonable to expect the jurors to make their decision based solely on the law - I mean, they are going to take a legal oath pledging to do just that.

That said, I don't think that argument would hold as much sway as you think it would. I mean, a single mother working two jobs just to keep a one-bedroom apartment running, or a single person who can just barely afford to live with roommates who's big dream is to get an apartment of their own some day, etc. - I don't think they are going to be swayed with "Hey, Disney says they are going to spend billions in the next ten years, surely my life will improve if they do!"

They might when they hear 13,000 jobs. Depending on where they are in the pay scale they may also be very happy to see the new $18/hr min wage.

 

[flynnibus]

This lawyer is hardly pro-DeSantis but thinks most of Disney’s claims have little merit.



I’m wondering if anyone has thoughts on his points.

I'm not sure he's actually paying attention?

Their taking clause claim is not over their 'sweetheart regulatory deal' -- It's about the developer agreement contract

And his reason to dismiss the other points is basically 'because I have said so'

His twitter feed is like 95% political... so not exactly ready to believe he's objective.

He doesn't put forth very convincing arguments... even if he has qualifications.

 

[RamblinWreck]

I'm not sure he's actually paying attention?

Their taking clause claim is not over their 'sweetheart regulatory deal' -- It's about the developer agreement contract

And his reason to dismiss the other points is basically 'because I have said so'

His twitter feed is like 95% political... so not exactly ready to believe he's objective.

He doesn't put forth very convincing arguments... even if he has qualifications.

I certainly didn’t dive too far into his material but his thread in the first amendment portion started with a disclaimer that he believes what DeSantis is doing is awful so I was at least intrigued about his take on Disney not having much of a case.

 

[LittleBuford]

Literally nobody is worried about him becoming president.

I am. I really think he stands a good chance.

 

[Goofnut1980]

I don’t think my commercial popcorn machine is big enough for the fun that is about to ensue that I can’t wait to watch. Ha

 

[GoofGoof]

Why are you surprised? The state (DeSantis, legislature, and the various people advising them) have been reacting in real time throughout this entire venture. They've yet to exhibit any semblance of anticipating the "opponent's" next move.

Yeah they have been quite far behind from the start. It probably also doesn’t help that the Gov wasn‘t even in the country let alone the state when this dropped.

 

[mmascari]

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That quite an interesting list that person used to show examples. Almost like there is a theme to each of them.....

Aren't a bunch of those all facing an additional appeal now too where they could be overturned again back to the Walker decision?

 

[BuzzedPotatoHead89]

I certainly didn’t dive too far into his material but his thread in the first amendment portion started with a disclaimer that he believes what DeSantis is doing is awful so I was at least intrigued about his take on Disney not having much of a case.

Also further in the thread he does seem to take TWDC’s side on the due process clause argument. I disagree with him on his 1A take since I think there’s plenty of case law there.

Takings Clause and Contract Clause could go either way. But even he notes they have an obligation to shareholders to file on all plausible grounds.

 

[GoofGoof]

Disney Lawyers Are Done Playing, Sue Florida Gov. DeSantis​

The actual article rehashes stuff already known here but I thought the headline and picture were cool

 

[lewisc]

If they go with their army of $41k/yr recent grad civil servant attorneys, they're going to be eaten alive.

And that's bad?

I'm not shocked but somewhat surprised the lawyers for Florida and the board didn't have a response ready to go even if it was "we're not going to comment on pending litigation at this time"

Florida has been running behind, witness ignoramce of the prior boards deals.
I thought the board would have filed suit in state court, to void the deals, before Disney sued in federal court.

I'll speculate the board thought they had days, not minutes, to file first.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This is the thing I keep coming back to. The legislature and governor haven't yet shown the ability to think more than one step ahead.

…in this…they’ve shown they’ve lost a half a step, yogi

 

[Brian]

This speech was from 4/21 (pre-lawsuit). The reason I am posting this, despite his multiple mischaracterizations of the situation, is to share DeSantis' philosophy. Many have rightfully pointed out that his actions do not comport with traditional ideological conservatism. This is his response to that.