News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[Lilofan]

Statement from Jeff Vahle -

I would think currently guests and cast aren't complaining on the free medical check up by RCES cast when one calls 911 and or a free ambulance ride to a local hospital of the person's choosing.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Statement from Jeff Vahle -

Now that’s how you craft a statement, friendly, not divisive, and not political in any way. Good job Mr Vahle and PR team, where were you 2 years ago when Chapek stepped into this mess?

 

[Andrew C]

Good job Mr Vahle and PR team, where were you 2 years ago when Chapek stepped into this mess?

crying into his pillow while cursing Chapek?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Disney’s argument is hidden in its statement

 

[monothingie]

Now that’s how you craft a statement, friendly, not divisive, and not political in any way. Good job Mr Vahle and PR team, where were you 2 years ago when Chapek stepped into this mess?

Much more reserved and softer tone. Sounds like something is going to be worked out.

 

[Tha Realest]

Dude... do I need to break out the crayons?

The difference between operations and sales Disney ALLOWS and DECIDED... vs sales or operations Disney has no say in.

Lot's of over my reaction to a bad post (since edited), which read:

The thing about this also is that it could end up allowing non Disney businesses on Disney property.

You're making arguments not clear in the original post (again, since edited) and getting upset at a joke

 

[lazyboy97o]

Much more reserved and softer tone. Sounds like something is going to be worked out.

Sure… We’ve been hearing this for how long now?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Part of me wonders if this bill was written to give Disney a number of grounds to sue on. So they get their win for having stopped and owned Disney, and are leaving it to the courts to undo their damage. This thing is that blatant.

I’d agree with you if I honestly believed anyone writing this was bright enough.

 

[ParentsOf4]

Much more reserved and softer tone. Sounds like something is going to be worked out.

Vahle's statement is cautious but precise. It's sufficiently open-ended to allow anyone to read into it whatever they want.

It's the kind of statement that could have been drafted weeks ago. It's exactly what it needs to be.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Now that’s how you craft a statement, friendly, not divisive, and not political in any way. Good job Mr Vahle and PR team, where were you 2 years ago when Chapek stepped into this mess?

They were “ in fear”….huddled under an ergonomic sit to stand desk with Josh and Chrissy McCarthy

 

[flynnibus]

Vahle's statement is cautious but precise. It's sufficiently open-ended to allow anyone to read into it whatever they want.

It's the kind of statement that could have been drafted weeks ago. It's exactly what it needs to be.

Meh - for Disney finally acknowledging the issue.. it basically says absolutely nothing. More like "we are aware of the bill, thank you, no comment"

 

[monothingie]

It's the kind of statement that could have been drafted weeks ago. It's exactly what it needs to be.

Imagine where they'd be without so many self-inflicted wounds.

 

[drnilescrane]

https://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Documents/loaddoc.aspx?FileName=h0009B.SAC.DOCX&DocumentType=Analysis&BillNumber=0009B&Session=2023B

The staff bill analysis is out. It seems like the legislature has been planning this for a while - the reform of the district's powers make sense as a whole.

The problem is the governor and his appointed board. It feels like the two issues - reform and "punish Disney" have been smashed together - that's the "compromise".

Maybe the bill will change in committee/be amended.

 

[lazyboy97o]

https://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sections/Documents/loaddoc.aspx?FileName=h0009B.SAC.DOCX&DocumentType=Analysis&BillNumber=0009B&Session=2023B

The staff bill analysis is out. It seems like the legislature has been planning this for a while - the changes on a whole make sense.

The problem is the governor and his appointed board.

What specific changes make sense?

 

[drnilescrane]

What specific changes make sense?

None of these things on the face of it seem offensive:

1. Removing the district’s ability to own and operate airport facilities, certain types of recreational facilities (such as stadiums, civic centers, and convention halls), and “novel and experimental” facilities (such as a nuclear fission power plant);
2. Removing the district’s ability to spend public funds to advertise businesses, facilities, and attractions within the district, and to levy tolls;
3. Retaining the district’s power to adopt its own planning, zoning, building, and safety codes, while clarifying the application of general law to those codes and requiring any building and safety codes to be substantially similar or provide more stringent standards than the Florida Building Code and Florida Fire Prevention Code;
4. Removing sections of the charter that duplicate provisions of general law applicable to the district; and
5. Updating or removing, as applicable, cross-references and archaic terminology.

 

[flynnibus]

I wonder if the senate confirmation of the board members is some angle to try to avoid the critique of no-representation in the board members.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I wonder if the senate confirmation of the board members is some angle to try to avoid the critique of no-representation in the board members.

After it’s been engineering that the I-4 corridor has been almost permanently rendered to be in the legislative minority?…

…just saying

 

[lazyboy97o]

I wonder if the senate confirmation of the board members is some angle to try to avoid the critique of no-representation in the board members.

It’s part of the process for other boards such as the Greater Orlando Aviation Authority.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It’s part of the process for other boards such as the Greater Orlando Aviation Authority.

…pretty sure there’s a bit more eyes/regs that require caution and the need for more meddling when planes are involved

 

[lazyboy97o]

None of these things on the face of it seem offensive:

1. Removing the district’s ability to own and operate airport facilities, certain types of recreational facilities (such as stadiums, civic centers, and convention halls), and “novel and experimental” facilities (such as a nuclear fission power plant);
2. Removing the district’s ability to spend public funds to advertise businesses, facilities, and attractions within the district, and to levy tolls;
3. Retaining the district’s power to adopt its own planning, zoning, building, and safety codes, while clarifying the application of general law to those codes and requiring any building and safety codes to be substantially similar or provide more stringent standards than the Florida Building Code and Florida Fire Prevention Code;
4. Removing sections of the charter that duplicate provisions of general law applicable to the district; and
5. Updating or removing, as applicable, cross-references and archaic terminology.

Would you describe them as inoffensive if we were discussing any other municipality, county or district that provided the same services?

The EPCOT Building Code already meets the minimum requirements of the Florida Building Code. The District enforces the Florida Fire Prevention a code, which just demonstrates how clueless those involved actually are when it comes the District. So by calling this reasonable you just validate the lie that the District has been enforcing substandard or no regulations, because there’d be no need to review the use of state regulations.