News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[JohnD]

You can follow bill progress in Special Session here. Presumably there will be a hearing in the State Affairs Committee (not yet scheduled).

Bill History​

Event	Time	Member	Committee	Ver.
H Now in State Affairs Committee	02/06/2023 - 1:54 PM		State Affairs Committee	__
H Referred to State Affairs Committee	02/06/2023 - 1:54 PM		State Affairs Committee	__
H Filed	02/06/2023 - 1:41 PM	Hawkins		__

 

[flynnibus]

Can you explain this in more general terms? Is this basically saying the board of supervisors (I assume the state board) can change projects based on their discretion. Isn’t that illegal to have the property owner change something because a state run board said so?

EDIT: Can they be forced to tear down Dumbo (for example) because the board said so?

Projects in this context are District projects - not private property.

The relevance of that section is it's kind of a catch-all that says the District can undertake whatever projects it wants to fit the purpose of the district (instead of having fixed scope like a gov agency should have)

 

[flynnibus]

Can they make sweeping changes to the parks WITHOUT Disney’s consent? (Tearing down Dumbo if the state deems it not in line with their vision).

no

 

[Surferboy567]

no

That makes more sense. Thank you.

 

[mikejs78]

The thing about this also is that it could end up allowing non Disney businesses near Disney on Reedy Creek land.

 

[Tha Realest]

The thing about this also is that it could end up allowing non Disney businesses on Disney property.

What do you have against Disney Springs?

 

[flynnibus]

It seems to me, and my first skim-thru that:

1. The district isn't really dissolved. It's "rethemed" ( ) into a more modern district. In a model that probably already exists all over Florida as a supercharged Home Owners' Association. The language, I would guess, is a copy-paste from existing Special Districts. It's duties are basically the same as any district's board/council. The language is almost exclusively about the infrastructure.

2. With the district not really dissolved, then the bond issue is moot. The new district just takes up the role of responsibility of all current and any new bonds. Disney still pays county tax and still pays extra tax to the revised district. So, there is no issue of the counties being stuck with RFID's bond bills.

This is what they want you to take away from it... the challenge is can they actually do it in the way they've proposed.

As you highlighted... a monthly minimum BoS seat with only per diem and expenses? yuk

 

[flynnibus]

You need to include what section these quotes are from.

No I don't - the language is obvious and the line numbers are there for your own reference if it doesn't make sense.

Simply put.. it's putting them in play to regulate Amusement parks.. which could include safety, inspections, oversight, etc. That's more than just building codes and zoning.

Would love to see how that reads with other state level powers.

 

[flynnibus]

What do you have against Disney Springs?

You think those vendors own the land in Disney Springs? lol

 

[Tha Realest]

You think those vendors own the land in Disney Springs? lol

Who said anything about "own(ing) the land"? The OP gasped that non-Disney businesses would be allowed on Disney property, something that has existed in Disney property since 1955.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

The thing about this also is that it could end up allowing non Disney businesses near Disney on Reedy Creek land.

Does Reedy Creek own any usable land?

I did a Google search but can’t find an answer beyond “Disney owns most land within the RCID”, nothing specific about land Disney doesn’t own.

I’m guessing the land under roads, canals, etc has been transferred to RCiD but that’s not really usable land.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Does Reedy Creek own any usable land?

I did a Google search but can’t find an answer beyond “Disney owns most land within the RCID”, nothing specific about land Disney doesn’t own.

I’m guessing the land under roads, canals, etc has been transferred to RCiD but that’s not really usable land.

Yes, the District owns land. It is a lot of roads, but also conservation areas. The district could also acquire land through eminent domain.

Orange County Property Maps:

Interactive Mapping

Osceola County Property Maps:

Osceola County, Florida GIS

ira.property-appraiser.org

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You think those vendors own the land in Disney Springs? lol

As we know…the only land ever sold was by Bob to bill gates

 

[DCBaker]

Statement from Jeff Vahle -

 

[flynnibus]

Who said anything about "own(ing) the land"? The OP gasped that non-Disney businesses would be allowed on Disney property, something that has existed in Disney property since 1955.

Dude... do I need to break out the crayons?

The difference between operations and sales Disney ALLOWS and DECIDED... vs sales or operations Disney has no say in.

 

[Lilofan]

Statement from Jeff Vahle -

I would think currently guests and cast aren't complaining on the free medical check up by RCES cast when one calls 911 and or a free ambulance ride to a local hospital of the person's choosing.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Statement from Jeff Vahle -

Now that’s how you craft a statement, friendly, not divisive, and not political in any way. Good job Mr Vahle and PR team, where were you 2 years ago when Chapek stepped into this mess?

 

[Andrew C]

Good job Mr Vahle and PR team, where were you 2 years ago when Chapek stepped into this mess?

crying into his pillow while cursing Chapek?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Disney’s argument is hidden in its statement

 

[monothingie]

Now that’s how you craft a statement, friendly, not divisive, and not political in any way. Good job Mr Vahle and PR team, where were you 2 years ago when Chapek stepped into this mess?

Much more reserved and softer tone. Sounds like something is going to be worked out.