EPCOT-O.G.
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Perhaps. But Florida survived three months without Disney.
How long would Iger survive as CEO if he unilaterally decided to shut down the WDW spigot?
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How long would Iger survive as CEO if he unilaterally decided to shut down the WDW spigot?
Brian
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It would certainly ruin his "cool head," "adult in the room" persona.
GoofGoof
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Disney is way more “Florida“ than DeSantis. That guy will be long forgotten (maybe sooner than later) and Disney will still be entertaining us in FL. No way they would pack up and leave even if they could.
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MagicHappens1971
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Yeah, I should've been more careful with the word choice.
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MagicHappens1971
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Granted that it's the company's ATM, not long. Not that this is ever going to happen, unless there's another global pandemic sometime soon.
LapsedWDWFan
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There are a couple of inaccuracies in that statement. First, Disney is not Florida's largest employer. Walmart is. Disney is the largest SINGLE SITE employer. Disney is a large taxpayer but 80% of Florida's revenue comes from sales tax. Sure Disney plays a factor in sales tax, but not a lions share. Also consider that while Disney does drive quite a bit tourism to central Florida, it's a very big state and there are a ton of people that come here that care less about Disney.
I'm a Floridian as well. I don't think about if I'd be happy or sad if they go because I know they just can't do it.
MagicHappens1971
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Well actually, Publix is #1, Disney is #2.
Okay, so they are the largest taxpayer in Central Florida. Over a billion dollars.
I can't really find concrete information on the largest driver of tourism in Florida, but Disney is definitely one of the largest.
For a fun fact:
"Orlando’s population grew by more than 165% since Disney World opened, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. Its population of 287,442 as of July 1, 2019 is almost triple its population of 99,006 in 1970." link
Orlando would not exist as it does today without Disney, point blank period.
Chi84
Premium Member
If states can just ignore federal law, why is Florida defending the federal suit and prosecuting their own suit in Florida state court? They could save a lot of time, effort and money by just letting Disney win.
LapsedWDWFan
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Fair enough. I looked at a few sources and some said Walmart and some said Publix so I went with Walmart. But the my original point remains that Disney is not Florida's largest employer.
Compared to Florida's $117B budget, then Disney represents .8% of Florida's revenue according to that metric. My point is that I think some folks overvalue what Disney means to the state of Florida financially overall.
100% true. The Orlando area would be nothing today without Disney. But a lot has happened in the last 50 years. Orlando has grown by leaps and bounds. Other players have come into the market more than eager to scoop up Disney's market share. The area has become more than just Disney World. I'll bet Disney's recent rhetoric about not investing in the Florida property has Universal chomping at the bit saying "Please don't. We'll love to have your guests here as we open more and more stuff." Again, my point here is that I think some people are overconfident in Disney's grip of central Florida market share.
MagicHappens1971
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If they were planning on doing this anyway, why did CFTOD countersue Disney?
Allowing gay marriage or selling marijuana against the wishes of the federal government and using your "gusto" to violate citizens first amendment rights aren't comparable, again, apples to oranges.
I don't personally agree with this viewpoint, nor do I feel that we will find it to be accurate, but time will tell.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
You blew your cover days ago when you said “their politics” in a diatribe about Disneys “issues”
The politics issue here has nothing to do with Disney. It’s a con game and you fell for it like a blind roofer
See above. This is a 24/7 cable pundit type.
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Sirwalterraleigh
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Mainly because one was never illegal on the federal level and the other they specifically would not enforce for the last 30 years…but they absolutely could if they wanted to and the states would not be able to do much but make speeches…like they do in Florida for nothing now.
Florida has no ability to “stop the feds”
That is beyond stupid for one very obvious reason: they can’t function without federal money. No state can.
This is like an 1859 myth converted to digital.
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MagicHappens1971
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In case anyone was confused, this is what Disney is requesting for relief in the suit.
Which explains how the "fed" is going to stop the state from enforcing these laws. Plain and simple.
Which explains how the "fed" is going to stop the state from enforcing these laws. Plain and simple.
BuddyThomas
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Y'all sure are being b*tchy tonight. I just had to have a series of tests for Parkinson's disease, which all came back okay (I think), fortunately, but it kind of puts all the online arguing over stupid crap in perspective.
TheCoasterNerd
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stay safe man, hope you're healthy
EPCOT-O.G.
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I think there’s a difference between a state choosing not to enforce a law (say immigration) and a state completely ignoring a federal ruling where the state was a party. That’s not to say other mischief could occur to subvert the ruling (or its spirit)
Hugs and a high five friend.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
We don’t need Scotland Yard to figure out the mystery here tonight, buddy
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
2018…this is like a cheap tabloid newspaper
The federal government sues all the time. They win.
But wait…this just in…
Florida is gonna “circumvent” them.
Why didn’t I think of that? I thought it was colonel mustard in the foyer with the candlestick
The federal government sues all the time. They win.
But wait…this just in…
Florida is gonna “circumvent” them.
Why didn’t I think of that? I thought it was colonel mustard in the foyer with the candlestick
