Or perhaps going back to teaching CIVICS. Make it a required course like I had to take in middle school in Florida.
I'm sure Democrats are perfectly fine with...and would love...teaching the Constitution in school.
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Or perhaps going back to teaching CIVICS. Make it a required course like I had to take in middle school in Florida.
I'm sure Democrats are perfectly fine with...and would love...teaching the Constitution in school.
Can any of this happen if the courts grant an injunction?Even at their best, the Board is a waste of resources. Reedy Creek Improvement District already adopted the Florida Fire Prevention Code in 2016. But this is one of the governor’s lies so they’re going to do something that’s already been done.
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About Central Florida Tourism Oversight District Central Florida Tourism Oversight District formerly known as, Reedy Creek Improvement District (the “District”) is a local government entity, created in 1967 by a special Act of the Florida Legislature, the purpose of which is to support and...www.rcid.org
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Shouldn’t be consequences from the government. Maybe business consequences like people making a choice about using their products, services.
lazyboy97o
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It depends entirely on the scope of any injunction.
GoofGoof
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I think it’s possible to teach the constitution without introducing politics. Just pure what is in the constitution and what it means. Even make them memorize some of it. I can still rattle off the first half of the Gettysburg Address from memory….I believe the 2nd half was lost to a long night of drinking that started with an Eagles tailgate and ended at some club on Delaware Ave
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Ehh. But then you also need to talk about the court cases that deemed certain actions constitutional or unconstitutional. The interpretation by the courts is just as important imo. And to avoid politics there would be difficult. Maybe at an elementary level it is easier but at a high school level it becomes challenging.I think it’s possible to teach the constitution without introducing politics. Just pure what is in the constitution and what it means. Even make them memorize some of it. I can still rattle off the first half of the Gettysburg Address from memory….I believe the 2nd half was lost to a long night of drinking that started with an Eagles tailgate and ended at some club on Delaware Ave
I think it’s possible to teach the constitution without introducing politics. Just pure what is in the constitution and what it means. Even make them memorize some of it. I can still rattle off the first half of the Gettysburg Address from memory….I believe the 2nd half was lost to a long night of drinking that started with an Eagles tailgate and ended at some club on Delaware Ave
I meant Democrats would love that the Constitution be taught in school, not that they should be doing the teaching.
Civics is more than history. It teaches what one's responsibilities are as a citizen.
A number of folks I believe that come from all over the world that become US citizens know far more knowledge of the Constitution and levels of government than folks that are born right here in the USA. I know my friend who became a citizen was studying up late nights after work on these matters. His glorious day was when he took his oath, dressed in his best suit.
They absolutely would.
By twisting its meaning into something different. Attempting to obscure the original meaning and make it a meaningless catch phrase. A common tactic, Fake News as another example.
That’s nostalgia and no longer true. People like that are called RINO now. The new right has a different view on rights. It’s not that they don’t understand, they don’t want to understand and instead twist to mean something else. Thereby loosing the original meaning.
Can we talk more about this citation role they’re creating? How come after 50 years all of a sudden they need a citation magistrate?
GoofGoof
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Exactly. I’ve said from day 1 that Disney could have consequences from taking a position on the original bill. Those consequences could be a loss of customers, boycotts, protests, etc. I even went as far as saying if DeSantis the citizen on his own time and without use of government resources organized a boycott or protest that would be legal. What is unacceptable is DeSantis the Governor using the powers of his office that we the people (really some of you guys “the people” who actually live in FL) granted to him to retaliate against and punish a political foe. So as you say the consequences cannot be government retaliation. We the people are free to retaliate as long as we do it lawfully.
We need to remember under what context the amendment was written. The colonists had just endured the full force of the most powerful military on the planet at that time. That speech which was acceptable in Hyde Park was crushed with ruthlessness in the colonies.
lazyboy97o
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We probably need to see the actual text to know what exactly is being proposed. Based on past comments, my guess is they recognize that messing with daily operations is their best path to inflict pain.
GoofGoof
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Freedom of speech is not freedom from all consequences. That’s absolutely true. It is freedom from Government imposed consequences. A KKK group has the right to gather and speak. The Government cannot stop them from speaking even if their words are hateful. However, a group of counter protesters also has every right to show up and drown out the words of those people. Freedom of Speech protects them against the government stopping them from assembling or speaking it doesn’t protect them from fellow citizens drowning out their words with their own protected speech. It also doesn’t protect them from people posting their picture on Facebook and outing them as a KKK member. Those are some possible consequences of free speech but none are government imposed.
I agree with your opinion on the traditional right. I don’t think a lot of these people are traditional right. They embrace certain aspects of “conservative” but not all or even most. Just look at DeSantis. Hard to call him a traditional conservative.
I find the use of the word "magistrate" interesting. Magistrates are lay judges who can issues citations, hold hearings, determine fines, etc. In the UK.
In the US, magistrates are officers of the various courts who handle a variety of judicial proceedings, typically things like traffic court, etc. They are appointed by the court itself, i.e., judges.
Patcheslee
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Maybe Mrs. DeSantis can recommend her husband redo high school...
V.i.n.c.e.n.t.
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Tha Realest
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There’s a lot of interesting aspects to this. IIRC, you have one bill that dissolves what was RCID. Another that creates the CFTOD. A series of contracts entered into. A series of actions that purports to invalidate those contracts. New legislation and acts by the board that continue. The need for both Disney and RCID/CFTOD to continue running operations.
point being, the courts and the parties are going to have to play whack a mole with all the evolving issues and legislative/executive/board actions.
point being, the courts and the parties are going to have to play whack a mole with all the evolving issues and legislative/executive/board actions.
Without seeing all the details, I assume they want a new appointee that can take actions. Probably someone appointed by the board, or a board member, instead of a career position. That would be the best way to create leverage.