News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

castlecake2.0

castlecake2.0

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Disney Analyst said:
If you were the last public speaker, you did a great job :)
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Thank you, was definitely intimidating, I also toned down my speech
Heath said:
Disney’s lawsuit wording seems convoluted. “As punishment for ..free speech.” Just because one has right to free speech, doesn’t mean there isn’t consequences for free speech. One could put a sign in their yard saying something offensive, but that doesn’t protect him from the consequences of public opinion or fallout. If Disney is the only entity gifted the special privilege of self-government, how is taking away a privilege that no other entity has been granted a “punishment?” If the threat was taking away an amenity that all businesses and competitors were given, that might be deemed a punishment. But taking away a privilege is a reciprocal renegotiation of the relationship. It seems more like a case of ‘don’t look a gif horse in the mouth’?

My personal opinion at this point is that it’s silly retaliation, and a political stunt. Why not just sit down and work it out? I am generally anti-government and it looks like zealous over reach. However Disney’s “punishment” counter seems flimsy to me.

Once upon a time there was an inn keeper. The inn keeper has honorary guests, and he put cookies out on a silver platter for them every day. They were the only guests of the inn to get free VIP cookies. The guests would eat all the delicious cookies, however they felt morally compelled to spread word to the neighborhood that the inn was not sanitary. They guests even funded the local DeSanitary Club against unkept inns. So the inn keeper decided not to bake any more free cookies. The guests sued the inn keeper for retaliation for taking away their free cookies, and for punishing them for their First Amendment right to tell the public they have a dirty inn.

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Yah that’s not how any of this works
 
Patcheslee

Patcheslee

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Fido Chuckwagon said:
No, that’s literally what that means! The government cannot impose consequences for your speech. Otherwise it’s not, you know, “free.” My god this country’s educational system is failing.
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In words my daughter could understand at 7 when she was "protesting" cleaning her room: protest all you want, I can ground you because I'm not the government :D
 
GoofGoof

GoofGoof

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DPA said:
It's actually south of the Mississippi, since it isn't on the North American continent, as steamed up as the Disney Co is right now, I don't think Comcast would even try to enforce that contract to PR if they thought it applied. But if we're speculating on new parks to retaliate against Tallahassee (and I like the PR idea); Australia has said that they would like to have a Disney resort, they said it especially loud after Shanghai gave China three, and if Disney wound up with the 20th Century Fox Australia Studio in the Sidney area; they already have a huge chunk of land in the country's #1 tourist destination area that they can build on. Personally, I would like them to go on a major spree in California. They potentially have room for two parks on land they own in Anaheim and what would probably be a moderately complected real estate deal could might finally get them Knott's Berry Farm; which has room for a major Disney expansion, another park and a resort hotel and shops. Just mud in the eye for DeSantis to see money and energy diverted from Florida, because of him, back to where it was diverted to Florida from in the first place; because karma can be a royal 🤬!
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With the success of the theme parks (they are cash machines) and the potential issues with streaming and legacy networks it probably makes sense for Disney to continue to expand their parks business aggressively. Australia could make a lot of sense as well as South America and maybe Canada (something mostly indoors) if they went International. Domestically I don’t see Disney adding a 3rd location But I agree there should/will be further expansion on both coasts. This dispute with DeSantis will blow over. Disney is playing the long game. If the anti-business trend continues in FL after DeSantis goes away then it may be a time to consider pulling back. I don’t see Disney pulling back right now on future plans. Disney builds nothing quickly (except maybe timeshares) so it’s not like they will be building a major park expansion that opens in the next few years. They have time to see how all this plays out.
 
Ghost93

Ghost93

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JAB said:
Like with KFC, "double down" is something that some may think is a good idea at first, but ultimately come to regret. 😏



ETA: For those who might not know what KFC has to do with DeSantis's ill-advised strategy of doubling down, the KFC Double Down is a ridiculous "sandwich" consisting of cheese and bacon between two fried chicken cutlets instead of bread which I'm guessing has led to much gastronomical regret.
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I...liked the KFC Double Down. 😭
 
flyakite

flyakite

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PLEASE TAKE NOTICE that on May 10 th at 9:30 a.m., or as soon thereafter as practicable, the Board of Supervisors of the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District will meet in regular session at The Wyndham Resort (Horizons ballroom) at 1850 Hotel Plaza Blvd, Lake Buena Vista, FL. At that time and in addition to other business on the agenda, the Board of Supervisors will conduct a reading and public hearing on and consider for adoption Resolution No. 641. A RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THE CENTRAL FLORIDA TOURIST OVERSIGHT DISTRICT CREATING LOBBYIST RULES AND REGULATIONS; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, CONFLICTS AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Resolution No. 642. A RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THE CENTRAL FLORIDA TOURIST OVERSIGHT DISTRICT CREATING THE ENFORCEMENT CITATION PROGRAM, A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE POSITION AND APPEAL PROCEDURES; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, CONFLICTS AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Resolution No. 643. A RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THE CENTRAL FLORIDA TOURIST OVERSIGHT DISTRICT ADOPTING THE FLORIDA FIRE PREVENTION CODE AND CREATING REGULATIONS CONCERNING FALSE ALARMS AND ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, CONFLICTS AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Interested parties may appear at the public meeting and hearing to be heard with respect to the proposed resolutions. If a person decides to appeal any decision made by the Board of Supervisors with respect to any matter considered at such meeting or hearing, he or she will need a record of the proceedings, and that, for such purpose, he or she may need to ensure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made, which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the appeal is to be based.
BY: Tina Graham, Clerk
Central Florida Tourism Oversight District
4/29/2023 7425366
 
Patcheslee

Patcheslee

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May is going to be a busy for DeSantis news. Andrew Warren's appeals case is due to be heard the 1st week as well. Previous judge found DeSantis did violate 1A and Florida laws, but could not reinstate Warren to his position.
 
castlecake2.0

castlecake2.0

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flyakite said:
PLEASE TAKE NOTICE that on May 10 th at 9:30 a.m., or as soon thereafter as practicable, the Board of Supervisors of the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District will meet in regular session at The Wyndham Resort (Horizons ballroom) at 1850 Hotel Plaza Blvd, Lake Buena Vista, FL. At that time and in addition to other business on the agenda, the Board of Supervisors will conduct a reading and public hearing on and consider for adoption Resolution No. 641. A RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THE CENTRAL FLORIDA TOURIST OVERSIGHT DISTRICT CREATING LOBBYIST RULES AND REGULATIONS; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, CONFLICTS AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Resolution No. 642. A RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THE CENTRAL FLORIDA TOURIST OVERSIGHT DISTRICT CREATING THE ENFORCEMENT CITATION PROGRAM, A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE POSITION AND APPEAL PROCEDURES; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, CONFLICTS AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Resolution No. 643. A RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THE CENTRAL FLORIDA TOURIST OVERSIGHT DISTRICT ADOPTING THE FLORIDA FIRE PREVENTION CODE AND CREATING REGULATIONS CONCERNING FALSE ALARMS AND ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, CONFLICTS AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Interested parties may appear at the public meeting and hearing to be heard with respect to the proposed resolutions. If a person decides to appeal any decision made by the Board of Supervisors with respect to any matter considered at such meeting or hearing, he or she will need a record of the proceedings, and that, for such purpose, he or she may need to ensure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made, which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the appeal is to be based.
BY: Tina Graham, Clerk
Central Florida Tourism Oversight District
4/29/2023 7425366
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Enforcement citation program?
 
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Lilofan

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GoofGoof said:
It frightens me how many Americans truly have no clue what the 1st Amendment does and does not protect. Total failure of the education systems in this country. Read a book. Educate yourself. Read something that isn’t limited to 140 characters.
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Cliff Notes in school more efficient as opposed to laborious reading.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Even at their best, the Board is a waste of resources. Reedy Creek Improvement District already adopted the Florida Fire Prevention Code in 2016. But this is one of the governor’s lies so they’re going to do something that’s already been done.

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LAKid53

LAKid53

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Heath said:
Disney’s lawsuit wording seems convoluted. “As punishment for ..free speech.” Just because one has right to free speech, doesn’t mean there isn’t consequences for free speech. One could put a sign in their yard saying something offensive, but that doesn’t protect him from the consequences of public opinion or fallout. If Disney is the only entity gifted the special privilege of self-government, how is taking away a privilege that no other entity has been granted a “punishment?” If the threat was taking away an amenity that all businesses and competitors were given, that might be deemed a punishment. But taking away a privilege is a reciprocal renegotiation of the relationship. It seems more like a case of ‘don’t look a gif horse in the mouth’?

My personal opinion at this point is that it’s silly retaliation, and a political stunt. Why not just sit down and work it out? I am generally anti-government and it looks like zealous over reach. However Disney’s “punishment” counter seems flimsy to me.

Once upon a time there was an inn keeper. The inn keeper has honorary guests, and he put cookies out on a silver platter for them every day. They were the only guests of the inn to get free VIP cookies. The guests would eat all the delicious cookies, however they felt morally compelled to spread word to the neighborhood that the inn was not sanitary. They guests even funded the local DeSanitary Club against unkept inns. So the inn keeper decided not to bake any more free cookies. The guests sued the inn keeper for retaliation for taking away their free cookies, and for punishing them for their First Amendment right to tell the public they have a dirty inn.

The End
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Your whole argument is flawed and demonstrates a lack of knowledge what the First Amendment is. There is ABSOLUTELY no GOVERNMENT consequences for exercising protected speech. Courts have repeatedly confirmed this. Courts have also said what is NOT protected speech.
 
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DisneyHead123

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GoofGoof said:
It frightens me how many Americans truly have no clue what the 1st Amendment does and does not protect. Total failure of the education systems in this country. Read a book. Educate yourself. Read something that isn’t limited to 140 characters.
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I think people know, it’s just motivated reasoning. People want rule of law to be whatever they personally prefer these days.
 

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