Andrew C
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I’m sure state republicans would be more than happy to add a constitution curriculum in their state if not already there. Do you think Dems would support it?Total failure of the education systems in this country.
I’m sure state republicans would be more than happy to add a constitution curriculum in their state if not already there. Do you think Dems would support it?Total failure of the education systems in this country.
Yes, but the First Amendment doesn't mean what it literally means.
Take, for example, something as apparently simple as "freedom of speech":
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
As we all understand, there are limitations on free speech, even though this is not stated in the text. Some forms of speech are not protected. Congress can pass some laws limiting speech.
Similarly, and as I've previously described, for 200 years corporate political speech rights were more limited than individual political speech rights. Corporate political speech rights have changed, and relatively recently.
There are hundreds of court cases refining free speech. It's an incredibly complex subject.
Are you telling me they don’t teach the constitution in schools anymore? It’s not part of a high school or middle school American history class? My kids have certainly learned about the constitution in school, but maybe that’s not the case everywhere. That is a failure of the education system. I also find it odd that you think Democrats oppose the constitution while Republicans embrace it. Is that a gun thing?I’m sure state republicans would be more than happy to add a constitution curriculum in their state if not already there. Do you think Dems would support it?
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I don’t disagree in general but in this thread alone multiple people have suggested that Disney has freedom of speech but that comes with consequences, including government retaliation. It’s possible they know and are just playing dumb but it’s also possible they just don’t understand what free speech is.I think people know, it’s just motivated reasoning. People want rule of law to be whatever they personally prefer these days.
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Maybe they wanna go into WDW and give tickets to families who stop and block entrances and exits
Among other things they make enforceable, like no phones out during fireworks.
You all know based on numerous posts here I’m against government overreach…..but I may be willing to look the other way if they actually enforced thisCENTRAL FLORIDA TOURIST OVERSIGHT DISTRICT
Maybe they wanna go into WDW and give tickets to families who stop and block entrances and exits
Among other things they make enforceable, like no phones out during fireworks.
I imagine it’s still there in most states but maybe not a specific curriculum and rather during the discussion of the founding of the country. Honestly I know learned about it in school but cannot remember the specific context of how/when. Which is not surprising because that was years ago.Are you telling me they don’t teach the constitution in schools anymore? It’s not part of a high school or middle school American history class? My kids have certainly learned about the constitution in school, but maybe that’s not the case everywhere.
Due to efforts by some to want to limit speech (ie hate speech, religious speech), 2A, state power, etc.I also find it odd that you think Democrats oppose the constitution while Republicans embrace it. Is that a gun thing?
I’m sure state republicans would be more than happy to add a constitution curriculum in their state if not already there. Do you think Dems would support it?
Can any of this happen if the courts grant an injunction?Even at their best, the Board is a waste of resources. Reedy Creek Improvement District already adopted the Florida Fire Prevention Code in 2016. But this is one of the governor’s lies so they’re going to do something that’s already been done.
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Shouldn’t be consequences from the government. Maybe business consequences like people making a choice about using their products, services.but that comes with consequences,
It depends entirely on the scope of any injunction.Can any of this happen if the courts grant an injunction?
I imagine it’s still there in most states but maybe not a specific curriculum and rather during the discussion of the founding of the country. Honestly I know learned about it in school but cannot remember the specific context of how/when. Which is not surprising because that was years ago.
Due to efforts by some to want to limit speech (ie hate speech, religious speech), 2A, state power, etc.
I think it’s possible to teach the constitution without introducing politics. Just pure what is in the constitution and what it means. Even make them memorize some of it. I can still rattle off the first half of the Gettysburg Address from memory….I believe the 2nd half was lost to a long night of drinking that started with an Eagles tailgate and ended at some club on Delaware AveOr perhaps going back to teaching CIVICS. Make it a required course like I had to take in middle school in Florida.
I'm sure Democrats are perfectly fine with...and would love...teaching the Constitution in school.
Ehh. But then you also need to talk about the court cases that deemed certain actions constitutional or unconstitutional. The interpretation by the courts is just as important imo. And to avoid politics there would be difficult. Maybe at an elementary level it is easier but at a high school level it becomes challenging.I think it’s possible to teach the constitution without introducing politics. Just pure what is in the constitution and what it means. Even make them memorize some of it. I can still rattle off the first half of the Gettysburg Address from memory….I believe the 2nd half was lost to a long night of drinking that started with an Eagles tailgate and ended at some club on Delaware Ave
I think it’s possible to teach the constitution without introducing politics. Just pure what is in the constitution and what it means. Even make them memorize some of it. I can still rattle off the first half of the Gettysburg Address from memory….I believe the 2nd half was lost to a long night of drinking that started with an Eagles tailgate and ended at some club on Delaware Ave
A number of folks I believe that come from all over the world that become US citizens know far more knowledge of the Constitution and levels of government than folks that are born right here in the USA. I know my friend who became a citizen was studying up late nights after work on these matters. His glorious day was when he took his oath, dressed in his best suit.Or perhaps going back to teaching CIVICS. Make it a required course like I had to take in middle school in Florida.
I'm sure Democrats are perfectly fine with...and would love...teaching the Constitution in school.
They absolutely would.I’m sure state republicans would be more than happy to add a constitution curriculum in their state if not already there. Do you think Dems would support it?
By twisting its meaning into something different. Attempting to obscure the original meaning and make it a meaningless catch phrase. A common tactic, Fake News as another example."Ok, now it's our turn to use that phrase!".
That’s nostalgia and no longer true. People like that are called RINO now. The new right has a different view on rights. It’s not that they don’t understand, they don’t want to understand and instead twist to mean something else. Thereby loosing the original meaning.The Right is generally libertarian and focused on individual rights, I doubt they genuinely don't understand the concept of Freedom of Speech.
Exactly. I’ve said from day 1 that Disney could have consequences from taking a position on the original bill. Those consequences could be a loss of customers, boycotts, protests, etc. I even went as far as saying if DeSantis the citizen on his own time and without use of government resources organized a boycott or protest that would be legal. What is unacceptable is DeSantis the Governor using the powers of his office that we the people (really some of you guys “the people” who actually live in FL) granted to him to retaliate against and punish a political foe. So as you say the consequences cannot be government retaliation. We the people are free to retaliate as long as we do it lawfully.Shouldn’t be consequences from the government. Maybe business consequences like people making a choice about using their products, services.
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