Evil Genius
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I have to agree with this. While I know my girls would love PH...I just don't see it as a smart long term development.
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Princesses may not rule fantasy land after all! Frontierland expansion rumor reality?
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cblodg
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Wow, way to leave out HoP in that 'only one major refurb in 40 years.'
I do agree and have said that capacity of the park would be HUGELY hit if they did a pincer move with construction in FL and then again in Frontierland or even AL.
Mr. Morrow
New Member
Agreed in 50 years The Faries Franchise will be dead. Tinkerbell will be around but this franchise will not.
lebeau
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On some levels, I agree with you. But, the franchise is more than just that. The DVDs are popular. The on-line game is a wild success. And the Tink-related merch sells well.
The idea that a direct-to-DVD franchise is somehow unfit for the parks is crazy to me. Walt was one of the first to realize the potential of TV (while most were looking down their noses at the new medium) He themed the lands of DL to his shows. If Walt were around today, I think he'd do the same with the direct-to-DVD market.
Disney has a lousy track record with direct-to-DVD. I think they devalued the Disney brand with all of those horrible direct-to-DVD sequels. But that doesn't mean direct-to-DVD is necessarily bad.
The quality of the Fairies movies has actually been pretty good. They are aimed at my daughter and not me. But I can appreciate that they are well done. Compare them to those horrible Barbie movies if you don't believe me.
Mr. Morrow
New Member
The main thing I have against PH is the straight to DVD thing. Disney doesn't thing enough of the franchise to put it in theaters but they will build a whole land from it?
Mr. Morrow
New Member
I can do this with the rest of FLE besides a lack of rides I have no problem with the princess stuff, and I love all of those films, PH just doesn't hold up to them.
I just think a whole land based off of it is a stretch, imo a faried M&G should be built in FLE but nothing bigger than what is in DL.
wizards8507
Active Member
What, you didn't like Aladdin 2 and 3? :animwink:
Seriously though. The notion that the Magic Kingdom NEEDS anything at all is a little absurd. The only people who are displeased with the park at all are the nutjobs like us who spend our time on these boards and traveling to WDW fairly frequently. I really doubt that any trips to WDW are going to *omit* the Magic Kingdom, regardless of what lands are in the most need for expansion.
Conversely, I am astonished every time I hear people say that they SKIP Animal Kingdom all together on their vacations, and I hear this quite a bit. Much like people who have never seen the American Idol show in DHS will skip it because they don't care for the TV program, many folks blow off Animal Kingdom and dismiss it as "just a zoo." Personally, DAK is my favorite park, but it is a shame that it fails to draw crowds and, if it did, wouldn't have the capacity to process them anyways. As my avatar would indicate, I'm a shameless supporter of Beastly Kingdomme. I understood when the economy fell and money wasn't being spent, but now that TDO is actually approving projects again, how can Beastly Kingdomme or SOMETHING to enhance DAK not be at the top of the list?
Grizzly Hall 71
New Member
I think the easiest thing to do, to balance out the boy and girl argument in Fantasyland is just bring the MATTEHORN! Then Mk would live happily ever after
Who's with me?
Anyone?
Anyone?
Who's with me?
Anyone?
Anyone?
Mr. Morrow
New Member
I love the Matterhorn but WDW has it already EE.
Spike-in-Berlin
Well-Known Member
I heard they use these DVDs in some asian countries as a torture device.
I would confess anything.
lebeau
Well-Known Member
I actually didn't mind Aladdin 2 or 3. But it went downhill fast! And they kept churning them out. "Return of Jafar" was something of an event when it happened. "Tarzan 2" not so much.
I especially liked the bolded part of your message. I think this gets lost on a lot of people who post here.
Ironically, we skipped DAK on our last visit. We like the park a lot, but it didn't have much to offer our young kids. Aside from the safari, the rides were all too big for them. They won't sit through shows. So that left the animal exhibits which pretty much reduces the park to being a (very beautiful) zoo. DAK is great, but it could really use a couple of dark rides!
lebeau
Well-Known Member
I heard they use these DVDs in some asian countries as a torture device.
I would confess anything.
True. But don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. PH is a setp in the right direction as far as Disney's direct-to-video efforts go.
Direct-to-DVD can be a powerful medium if used correctly.
Mr. Morrow
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Spike-in-Berlin
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Sorry, I really would like the Matterhorn in FL. I saw pictures of DL with Snow Whites castle in the foreground and Matterhorn towering behind. It looked nothing less than fantactic! But with the EE in DAK it is absolutely unrealistic to expect Disney build the Matterhorn in WDW ever. And if they would, it would more likely be built as part of the once planned Switzerland Pavilion in WS.
Grizzly Hall 71
New Member
You mean Sleeping Beauty's castle.I will keep hope alive just as I am the they'll bring back all 3 country bear shows.
Spike-in-Berlin
Well-Known Member
Oops sorry, I have never been to DL so my knowledge of DL is not as detailed as of WDW.
BrerFrog
Active Member
Tom Staggs is awesome!
I would prefer to see something happening in Adventureland rather than in Frontierland - which already has 2 fantastic E-tickets. But I will take what I can get.
A clone of DL's Indy ride wouldn't be that expensive and it would certainly draw a lot of people, but it wouldn't have the same merchandise power as HP does. In fact, I don't think Disney has any franchises that could cause the huge merchandise and food lines we see at WWoHP. The Pirates could sell, but they already have their ride and their store.
I would prefer to see something happening in Adventureland rather than in Frontierland - which already has 2 fantastic E-tickets. But I will take what I can get.
A clone of DL's Indy ride wouldn't be that expensive and it would certainly draw a lot of people, but it wouldn't have the same merchandise power as HP does. In fact, I don't think Disney has any franchises that could cause the huge merchandise and food lines we see at WWoHP. The Pirates could sell, but they already have their ride and their store.
Mr. Morrow
New Member
Tom Staggs is awesome!
I would prefer to see something happening in Adventureland rather than in Frontierland - which already has 2 fantastic E-tickets. But I will take what I can get.
A clone of DL's Indy ride wouldn't be that expensive and it would certainly draw a lot of people, but it wouldn't have the same merchandise power as HP does. In fact, I don't think Disney has any franchises that could cause the huge merchandise and food lines we see at WWoHP. The Pirates could sell, but they already have their ride and their store.
I don't want a clone it is too similar to Dino I want an Indy ride with a new ride system.