Princesses may not rule fantasy land after all! Frontierland expansion rumor reality?

[Birdflu]

Also, the HP merch is hard to get. That makes it more desirable.

just a thought or so on the comment from the article regarding fans waiting in line to get into WWoHP shops..

My wife and i were in WDW for our honeymoon 2 weeks ago and after a week at WDW we visited WWHP (we pretty much loathe visiting universal but figured we would regret not going to see it.. and both like the movies a lot).. as far as the lines to get into merch shops are concerned, they are not simply because everyone is dying to throw money into them but largely for 2 reasons, 1) they are sort of part of the attraction, since they are supposed to be shops from the story lines, which of course everyone is aware of, so a lot of people want to see everything there, but also 2) they are WILDLY small.. not just small but like fire-hazardous, unbelievably cramped small.. so only a very small amount of people at a time can go into them. After waiting 45 min (literally) to get into Dervish and Banges we were very disappointed at both how small it is and how few things there were that weren't to be found in other shops (you basically walk in a cramped single file line to get through a place the size of an apartment). Other than wands in Olivanders (which had an hour long wait) and some quidditch stuff in the castle shop there wasn't much that couldn't be found elsewhere (other than the candy and such, of course). We loved the ride but certainly don't plan on revisiting every time we go to Orlando for WDW.. And I tend to think the success of the merch they do have is because so much of it is stuff that is like directly FROM the movie (we got Dolores Umbridge rule decree refrigerator magnets,)..

Basically all WDW needs to do is build the damn Beastly Kingdom with a crazy robocoaster ride.

 

[jt04]

so, since our two most credited insiders are "wrong," let's hear why you are so right...

I'm stating my opinion. Time and events will take care of the rest.

By the way, if you look closely at the latest FLE photo they are clearing behind Toon Town and Steve said just today that the M&M M&G is being relocated. Can it possibly be more obvious what is happening? :shrug:

 

[cdunbar]

haha this i know. I've been on these boards long enough to know that he likes to guess about things and pray he is right so he looks good.

(not happening in this case)

Well my friend you are miles ahead of him then....:animwink:

 

[wizards8507]

basically all wdw needs to do is build the damn beastly kingdom with a crazy robocoaster ride.

*ding ding ding ding ding ding ding*

 

[beyondyou]

I'm stating my opinion. Time and events will take care of the rest.

By the way, if you look closely at the latest FLE photo they are clearing behind Toon Town and Steve said just today that the M&M M&G is being relocated. Can it possibly be more obvious what is happening? :shrug:

prepping for a future expansion that is not exactly PH like numerous people on these boards have stated i'm thinking

 

[jt04]

prepping for a future expansion that is not exactly PH like numerous people on these boards have stated i'm thinking

Numerous people on these boards said the AC was not closing and nothing new was coming to the MK until at least 2014. I disagreed. They were wrong (uncluding the refugees from that other place:lol, I was right.


So stay tuned.

 

[SeaCastle]

Numerous people on these boards said the AC was not closing and nothing new was coming to the MK until at least 2014. I disagreed. They were wrong (uncluding the refugees from that other place:lol, I was right.


So stay tuned.

You failed to mention that you falsely claimed that there were no palm trees in The Little Mermaid movie, that PI closed as a result of a JFK-assasinationn level conspiracy, that Monsters Inc coaster was a Plan B to FLE, that FLE cost so much because it was installing infrastructure to a Phase III expansion, and those are just the ones I remember. I will be staying tuned. :wave:

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

I hope all you younger folk are taking note of what happens if you dont give your offspring the nurturing they need in childhood.

 

[jt04]

You failed to mention that you falsely claimed that there were no palm trees in The Little Mermaid movie, that PI closed as a result of a JFK-assasinationn level conspiracy, that Monsters Inc coaster was a Plan B to FLE, that FLE cost so much because it was installing infrastructure to a Phase III expansion, and those are just the ones I remember. I will be staying tuned. :wave:

Lets take this one at a time.

1. Yep, got the palm trees wrong. I never claimed to be infallable like some folks.
2. I've said PI closed for many reasons but the bottom line is it was a failed concept/business model. The issues of drunk driving changed the way they did business and that impacted profits I believe. It was the beginning of a long sustainded decline.
3. I don't remember this. I think I said Monsters would compliment the FLE.
4. I suggested this as a possibility. Just floating the idea as a possibility. Although I'm convinced they are planning for the eventual phase 3. The location of the new retention pond strongly suggests that possibility.


Oh and by the way, I can see the ground work for Cindy's Chateau AND Aurora's mill house in the FLE photo. So that pretty much nukes JH's story. Guess he "went to print" before seeing the photo.

PS- Anyone who uses the phrase "to be honest with you" was not being honest with you at some point. Just sayin'

:wave:

 

[headhoncho34]

Lets take this one at a time.

1. Yep, got the palm trees wrong. I never claimed to be infallable like some folks.
2. I've said PI closed for many reasons but the bottom line is it was a failed concept/business model. The issues of drunk driving changed the way they did business and that impacted profits I believe. It was the beginning of a long sustainded decline.
3. I don't remember this. I think I said Monsters would compliment the FLE.
4. I suggested this as a possibility. Just floating the idea as a possibility. Although I'm convinced they are planning for the eventual phase 3. The location of the new retention pond strongly suggests that possibility.


Oh and by the way, I can see the ground work for Cindy's Chateau AND Aurora's mill house in the FLE photo. So that pretty much nukes JH's story. Guess he "went to print" before seeing the photo.

PS- Anyone who uses the phrase "to be honest with you" was not being honest with you at some point. Just sayin'

:wave:

They really need to get to work on the expansion for Frontierland. As i said before the FLE as it is now hurts WDW's future.

 

[mpaul32001]

I think the Disney Execs and Imagineers are just sitting back and taking in a good laugh at this thread...

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

I think the Disney Execs and Imagineers are just sitting back and taking in a good laugh at this thread...

Naaaa, too busy counting bonuses.

 

[cbconglom]

I'm stating my opinion. Time and events will take care of the rest.

By the way, if you look closely at the latest FLE photo they are clearing behind Toon Town and Steve said just today that the M&M M&G is being relocated. Can it possibly be more obvious what is happening? :shrug:

well i'm kinda slow so... what is happening?

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae91/cbconglom/toontown.png

 

[ttalovebug]

I really hope nothing similar to DL's "Pirate Island" will be happening here. I know Pirates is not close enough to the island for that tie-in, but "Woody's Roundup" doesn't sound any better, in fact maybe worse. I love Toy Story as much as the next person, but there does not need to be a Pixar tie-in to improve the island. I don't think it needs a new theme, just some plussing. It would be so fun to have a Kim Possible-style scavenger hunt, using the caves. Wouldn't it be cool to have different locations and structures on the island that you only find if certain clues lead you there? I feel like the current theme is reminiscent of a simpler time, when kids could have fun running around outside and using their imaginations, and when every themed area of a Disney park didn't have to have a movie tie-in that could sell merchandise. I would be so sad to see it change.

 

[jt04]

well i'm kinda slow so... what is happening?

It appears they are doing as much as they can without disturbing TTF during the busy season. So I'd say they are prepping to demolish TTF. We were told phase 2 is canceled. If so, it is a very recent decision or it is not canceled and TTF will be gone soon. I just don't think they will remove TTF unless they intend to build phase 2. Too much lost capacity.

 

[imagineer boy]

I really hope nothing similar to DL's "Pirate Island" will be happening here. I know Pirates is not close enough to the island for that tie-in, but "Woody's Roundup" doesn't sound any better, in fact maybe worse. I love Toy Story as much as the next person, but there does not need to be a Pixar tie-in to improve the island. I don't think it needs a new theme, just some plussing. It would be so fun to have a Kim Possible-style scavenger hunt, using the caves. Wouldn't it be cool to have different locations and structures on the island that you only find if certain clues lead you there? I feel like the current theme is reminiscent of a simpler time, when kids could have fun running around outside and using their imaginations, and when every themed area of a Disney park didn't have to have a movie tie-in that could sell merchandise. I would be so sad to see it change.

Agreed 100%.

I'm not a fan of the Pirates lair at DL, to me it feels very out of place. I know there's the whole story of Tom and Huck pretending to be pirates, but we all know that's a BS excuse to cash in on the pirates franchise. :lol:

TSI simply needs to be updated with NO character tie ins.

 

[raven]

I love how people's "speculations" become "official" in other people's minds. The concept art that has been released to the public, the one that everyone has seen, isn't even current. The princesses are going into a place temporarily that hasn't been announced yet. And that place will become very contiversial when it's finally announced.

 

[jt04]

I love how people's "speculations" become "official" in other people's minds. The concept art that has been released to the public, the one that everyone has seen, isn't even current. The princesses are going into a place temporarily that hasn't been announced yet. And that place will become very contiversial when it's finally announced.

I think most of us are basing our opinions on what has actually been announced. And the overhead photos of the construction area matches what has been announced exactly. Including what is obviously Cinderella's Chateau in the forest. :shrug:

 

[Lee]

Sorry, you and Lee were wrong about SSE and I'm betting you are being fed false info here to. Possibly by the same person.

:ROFLOL:

Yeah....right....

 

[raven]

I think most of us are basing our opinions on what has actually been announced.

Ah yes. But would you think that ALL of the plans would be announced? No. That would lead to an anticlimatic opening of the expansion. And some of the plans, like I said above, would start some negative feedback if it were announced too early. That's why they are keeping some things under wraps. But at least they are going to back it up with some additional surprises that no one here has even mentioned yet...because they don't know about them. :animwink: