Premium Members Lounge - what it is and what it isn't

[maggiegrace1]

lol the only thing that can be said to that... is duh, it wouldn't get closed as the parties being discussed are not privy to the discussion. LOL... that's the deal however fun and silly it may be sometimes... it can also be cold and spiteful at others... aside from all that. That's life. That's PML the good and the bad. Great People (for the most part ) Both on PML and NON PML... i guess it's a no win. Although i see your point to some extent.

Im not talking about PML threads that are "venting" about others.
Im talking about PML threads on different topics where people have different opinions.
PML is much more then a chit-chat thread or "venting" threads

Yes it can be cold and spiteful to laugh and talk about others and their posts...thats why the threads in the open forums are locked and deleted.
People do it on a daily basis in the open forums.

I dont believe that Steve or the mods would let PML get out of hand and talk so unbelievably bad about anyone and just let it go because we pay $5 a month.
Steve has made comments in the open forums and in PML threads to PML members before about certain things they have said.

Its not just PML the good and the bad..its forums all around the good and the bad.

It's everywhere and that cant be stopped.

 

[jesserin]

Im not talking about PML threads that are "venting" about others.
Im talking about PML threads on different topics where people have different opinions.
PML is much more then a chit-chat thread or "venting" threads

Yes it can be cold and spiteful to laugh and talk about others and their posts...thats why the threads in the open forums are locked and deleted.
People do it on a daily basis in the open forums.

I dont beleve that Steve or the mods would let PML get out of hand and talk so unbelievably bad about anyone and just let it go because we pay $5 a month.
Steve has made comments in the open forums and in PML threads to PML members before about certain things they have said.

Its not just PML the good and the bad..its forums all around the good and the bad.

It's everywhere and that cant be stopped.

good call :kiss:

 

[Legacy]

You're right on both parts here, however... i can speak from personal experience that often you'll find more than those things listed. For example: Threads complaining about non PML members. Myself included. Which is the primary reason I haven't joined PML at this point. I'd rather hand Steve $50 than spend it looking at nasty posts about other members. That just doesn't feel right.

Then what is preventing you from doing it? You don't have to read the PML. I hardly ever post in there anymore. I pay to support the site... that's it. I don't even download music and video with my ability to do so. I don't post pictures, I don't have more than 100 PMs in my account. So as of right now... I'm getting nothing for my $5 a month other than the satisfaction that I'm paying for the bandwidth I use.

(And I realize that that statement made me sound like a jerk, but it's something that I feel needed to be said.)

Now I have to say that's just rude. Seriously. Let's not tell other people how to spend their hard earned money or that they spend it on foolish things. That's hitting way below the belt there. If someone states they can't afford it. Let it go. Please.

I can see how one would think that was an intentional jab, but I really don't feel it was intended as such. I feel it was more of an allusion to a point.

Great Point. I'm included in that group as well. Not PML, but chit chat. All in All i don't care if y'all have inside jokes, i don't care if y'all have the money to enjoy PML... i'm glad you have each other, and i'm thrilled that y'all have so much fun. My biggest beef with PML was the "place to vent about non PML'ers" that's just plain awful in my opinion. I know there's been MANY threads to that nature, and many people who agree with me that it's inappropriate, both PML and not. So, having said that. PML seems like a great idea. Lot's of fun - great investment for those wanting to support the site! Glad y'all are doing what you can to keep it up and running. At least you know my reasons for not joining.

But it's not really a chance to do that. I'll admit, I've done it before. But here is a perfect example of why we really can't.

Thrawn became PML. One of the people, who for a long time, had justification in being complained about, joined the PML. And if he wanted to, could have searched and searched for what we might have said about him. Did he? I dunno. But the PML never knows who is going to join. And more importantly, not posting in the PML doesn't kick you out of the PML. I mean, it's not like the PML purges the system every week.

 

[CaptainMichael]

My biggest beef with PML was the "place to vent about non PML'ers" that's just plain awful in my opinion. I know there's been MANY threads to that nature, and many people who agree with me that it's inappropriate, both PML and not.

Really Jess? I am in PML everyday and there are no such things. When was the last time you were there?

There are no specific threads made to vent...at least none that I've seen since joining in July.

I will say this (and this comes from experience), I have been involved with PML and the "Chit Chat Lounge". PML is definitely the most friendly and forgiving of the two.

Just a friendly reminder, links to outside websites are not allowed:
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?t=51375

 

[wdwmagic]

You're right on both parts here, however... i can speak from personal experience that often you'll find more than those things listed. For example: Threads complaining about non PML members. Myself included. Which is the primary reason I haven't joined PML at this point. I'd rather hand Steve $50 than spend it looking at nasty posts about other members. That just doesn't feel right.

Remember there is much more to a WDWMAGICPass than just the PML. That is just one of the benefits on the forum.

Some of the benefits are:

WDWMAGICPremium Pass - $5.00 per month or $50.00 per year
Features:
● Access to WDWMAGIC Main Site
● Viewing of Thumbnail & Full Size Images/Video/Audio
● Access to Discussion Forums (with additional benefits)
- Premium Members Lounge access
- Custom User Title
- Increased Private Message storage
- Private Message delivery/read tracking
- Attachment posting
- Larger avatar size
- Animated avatar option
- Premium Member logo
● Access to view and add Reviews
● Photo Albums (100MB Storage)
● Trip Countdown Timer with personalised LIVE Countdown page

 

[garyhoov]

PML is a perk, but not the reason many of us pay the 5 bux a month.

I didn't even know it was there. It just popped up as a new section after I signed up.

It's a nice little feature but nothing to get worked up about by any means.

Anyone who's curious can pay their 5 bucks and find out what they're missing. It's not an exclusive club or anything. (Heck, if it was exclusive, do you think Sherman would have ever gotten in?):lookaroun



. . . Oh, wait. That's probably not good marketing.

Actually it's a super-secret club with special handshakes and passwords and such. No one can join without passing the "Three Great Trials", so don't even think about trying to join unless you're very brave and limber.:lookaroun

 

[MickeyTigg]

Now I have to say that's just rude. Seriously. Let's not tell other people how to spend their hard earned money or that they spend it on foolish things. That's hitting way below the belt there. If someone states they can't afford it. Let it go. Please.

Whatever...it's not rude...it's a matter of priorities. Everyone can afford $5/month even if it means sacrificing something...it's all a matter of what's important.

If you've ever read David Bach's "Instant Millionaire" he mentions saving for something by using the "Latte Theory"....take the money you'd spend on one latte per day and save it and you'd be amazed how much money you'd save in 10 years....same basic idea.

And BTW....I never said that they spent their money on foolish things....read my actual post before you complain about what I said.

 

[Computer Magic]

And yes perhaps it is wrong to talk badly of others. But we all vent. And it's not just limited to PML. People vent about others everywhere, from PML to myspace, to instant messenger. It's just the way things go. For all we know, you could be venting about us elsewhere, and we wouldn't know about it. Are you being rude, or is it rude when we know about it? It really should not be a big deal IMO and I'm not trying to be rude myself here :lol: I'm just trying to play devil's advocate. But I know where you're coming from :wave:

Ok I'm done

Great Post where I was going to comment

you're right. we do all vent. no doubt about that. i've made the mistake about venting where people can see it later that i would have rather not. I guess that's the deal. I've learned my lesson. Don't vent in public forums! LOL... too bad PML hasn't learned that yet... But that is good advice, it's not all about the PML thread.... supporting the site is worth it's weight in gold I realize that. I'll take your opinions and think about them.... thanks!

but saw this and I think all of us have learned something.....You are so right some people haven't learned their lesson on the forums. Great comment.

I keep my venting verbal so there is no trace or I talk in third party never naming names...so you can't find it in a search :lookaroun

 

[Fievel]

Whatever...it's not rude...it's a matter of priorities. Everyone can afford $5/month even if it means sacrificing something...it's all a matter of what's important.

If you've ever read David Bach's "Instant Millionaire" he mentions saving for something by using the "Latte Theory"....take the money you'd spend on one latte per day and save it and you'd be amazed how much money you'd save in 10 years....same basic idea.

And BTW....I never said that they spent their money on foolish things....read my actual post before you complain about what I said.

I'm not sure that "everyone" can afford $5. A few of us had times when money was tight, and yes, it may only be $5, but if you're like me and have several subscriptions to other sites (non-disney related), then when it's time to save money, all that has to go away.

I'm grateful to those who help keep this site alive....it was the reason steve started asking us to help out in the first place, and I'm proud that I've been a premium member almost the whole time since it started.

 

[Pongo]

Just to clear everything up, I find it ironic that we're all talking about whether or not the PML is a place full of inside jokes worthy of being hated. My signature on Friday (which I'm supposing originally prompted this thread?) had nothing to do with hating the PML, and I think that's the biggest misunderstanding that everyone is getting, and we're all being hurt because of it.

I made my signature because I didn't like seeing people complain about how WDWMagic.com was only a great website in the "good ol' days". It's my opinion that it's a great website right now. I had a link to the PML added in because premium members were the only people I saw complaining about the current state of the website.

It had nothing to do with PML inside jokes or hating the PML because of them. I understand that this post will probably just cause more arguments, but I had to get the truth out there because no one was understanding exactly what happened or why. And no one was taking the time to find out.

 

[Uponastar]

Just to clear everything up, I find it ironic that we're all talking about whether or not the PML is a place full of inside jokes worthy of being hated. My signature on Friday (which I'm supposing originally prompted this thread?) had nothing to do with hating the PML, and I think that's the biggest misunderstanding that everyone is getting, and we're all being hurt because of it.

I made my signature because I didn't like seeing people complain about how WDWMagic.com was only a great website in the "good ol' days". It's my opinion that it's a great website right now. I had a link to the PML added in because premium members were the only people I saw complaining about the current state of the website.

It had nothing to do with PML inside jokes or hating the PML because of them. I understand that this post will probably just cause more arguments, but I had to get the truth out there because no one was understanding exactly what happened or why. And no one was taking the time to find out.

Thank you Luke.
I understand that what you were trying to say is there is no need to make comparisons to what the site was like in the past and its current conditions.
Things change. People change. And members come and go. But the site was, and continues to be, the best WDW site out there. And the members are, for the most part, an amazing group of people with interesting ideas and opinions.
There is no reason why "the good ole days" have to be in the past. With less bickering and more positive, friendly attitudes, we can make every day here a good one to look back on!

 

[unkadug]

Just to clear everything up, I find it ironic that we're all talking about whether or not the PML is a place full of inside jokes worthy of being hated. My signature on Friday (which I'm supposing originally prompted this thread?) had nothing to do with hating the PML, and I think that's the biggest misunderstanding that everyone is getting, and we're all being hurt because of it.

I made my signature because I didn't like seeing people complain about how WDWMagic.com was only a great website in the "good ol' days". It's my opinion that it's a great website right now. I had a link to the PML added in because premium members were the only people I saw complaining about the current state of the website.

It had nothing to do with PML inside jokes or hating the PML because of them. I understand that this post will probably just cause more arguments, but I had to get the truth out there because no one was understanding exactly what happened or why. And no one was taking the time to find out.

:wave: I agree. It's still a great site.

People will always commiserate about the good ol' days. However, today will eventually be one of those good ol' days. It's all relative.

Recently I popped in on another forum site that had recently been hacked by some extremists, just to see what kind of damage had been done. Anyway I saw a recently removed member from this forum STILL grousing about moderators on this site. I found it humorous and sad at the same time.

 

[Hakunamatata]

I guess this forum mirrors society in general. There have always been private clubs, memberships, or other areas that the general public has not been allowed to come into unless they are a member (pay for entry). There have allways been those who stand outside the "pay area" and assert that there are things going on inside that are not right. There have allways been those in the "club" that cause problems. Its just a fact of society. There have allways been good people on both sides.

Let me use an example that we may all understand:

I think that that the WDW resort complex and WDWMagic are very similar. There are areas at the WDW resort that are "free" to use. You can go into DTD and to any of the resort common areas without paying to get in. There are areas that you have to pay to get in, parks, Pleasure Island, etc. On WDWMagic, there are the public forums and information available and there is information and an area available only to paying members.

Now, for the sake of comparison, say you are a paying guest at the Magic Kingdom one day, and you find out that there is a group of people who are outside in a common area acting up, picketing, making accusations and basically just acting destructively toward the WDW resort. I think you are going to find a few paying guests that love the resorts so much that when they see this, they are either going to call the people out on their behavior, report it to the proper authorities, or may actually become personally and emotionally involved to the extent that they offend someone. You will find people inside the MK talking about the "problems" outside. You will find people inside the MK that will try to maintain the peace and "say, dont go, dont cause more problems".

I guess basically the best advice would be, if you have not been a paying member, you really dont know for sure what goes on in those areas that paying members have access to. If you are a paying member, remember that you used to be on the other side of the coin wondering what was actually going on as well.

 

[Computer Magic]

I guess this forum mirrors society in general. There have always been private clubs, memberships, or other areas that the general public has not been allowed to come into unless they are a member (pay for entry). There have allways been those who stand outside the "pay area" and assert that there are things going on inside that are not right. There have allways been those in the "club" that cause problems. Its just a fact of society. There have allways been good people on both sides.

Let me use an example that we may all understand:

I think that that the WDW resort complex and WDWMagic are very similar. There are areas at the WDW resort that are "free" to use. You can go into DTD and to any of the resort common areas without paying to get in. There are areas that you have to pay to get in, parks, Pleasure Island, etc. On WDWMagic, there are the public forums and information available and there is information and an area available only to paying members.

Now, for the sake of comparison, say you are a paying guest at the Magic Kingdom one day, and you find out that there is a group of people who are outside in a common area acting up, picketing, making accusations and basically just acting destructively toward the WDW resort. I think you are going to find a few paying guests that love the resorts so much that when they see this, they are either going to call the people out on their behavior, report it to the proper authorities, or may actually become personally and emotionally involved to the extent that they offend someone. You will find people inside the MK talking about the "problems" outside. You will find people inside the MK that will try to maintain the peace and "say, dont go, dont cause more problems".

I guess basically the best advice would be, if you have not been a paying member, you really dont know for sure what goes on in those areas that paying members have access to. If you are a paying member, remember that you used to be on the other side of the coin wondering what was actually going on as well.

Good post...no attacks no naming calling.......just a point of view

Did your wife right this :lookaroun

 

[Hakunamatata]

Good post...no attacks no naming calling.......just a point of view

Did your wife right this :lookaroun

Hey, hey, hey, wait just a minute...I am capable of being civil every once in a while....:lol:

 

[DMC-12]

● Photo Albums (100MB Storage)

*is starting to run out of space in his album* :lol: :lookaroun

 

[e4ymod]

*is starting to run out of space in his album* :lol: :lookaroun

Maybe Steve should start the TML (Titanium Members Lounge) :lol: :lookaroun

 

[The Mom]

Or maybe an asbestos level lounge? :lol:

 

[LilDucky]

You're right on both parts here, however... i can speak from personal experience that often you'll find more than those things listed. For example: Threads complaining about non PML members. Myself included. Which is the primary reason I haven't joined PML at this point. I'd rather hand Steve $50 than spend it looking at nasty posts about other members. That just doesn't feel right.

Wafflefest was chock full of posts complaining of other members, and not just banned members. I can recall of at least one time when some active board member posted in Wafflefest, feeling very hurt, because they had been made fun of and teased.... and not in a friendly way. It goes on in public threads too. Yes, negative things have been said, but that is mostly the exception rather than the rule. I'll say it again...it goes on in public threads.

Highlighted in bold: If you still feel that way, then you just missed the primary reason Steve posted this thread. The PML is *not* that. Like others have said repeatedly, the PML is about a group of people talking about their jobs, children, school, health problems and others things in life. Not unlike the huggles and even the MJ thread.

I have made friends in there, not because of "the evil schemes" and "the planned conspiracies" most people think go on in there. I have made a connection with these people based on our shared experiences.

 

[DDuckFan130]

Wafflefest was chock full of posts complaining of other members, and not just banned members. I can recall of at least one time when some active board member posted in Wafflefest, feeling very hurt, becausse they had been made fun of and teased.... and not in a friendly way. It goes on in public threads too.

Highlighted in bold: If you still feel that way, then you just missed the primary reason Steve posted this thread. The PML is *not* that. Like others have said repeatedly, the PML is about a group of people talking about their jobs, children, school, health problems and others things in life. Not unlike the huggles and even the MJ thread.

I have made friends in there, not because of "the evil schemes" and "the planned conspiracies" in there most people goes on. I have made a connection based on shared experiences.

:lookaroun :zipit:

Hiiiii Lili...