brb1006
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The closest to WDW actually making the train ride more thematic was back when Mickey's Birthdayland was new.
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Possible Frontierland expansion
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brb1006
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And give the Jim Cummings voice to Hook instead of the old one from the 70's.
montyz81
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This is it exactly. They own 47 square miles in Florida (Walt's words "We have the blessing of size" ring in my head). There is no reason for crowding issues. They could easily solve the problem by expanding out the back without knocking down rides. It is all about the spend!
Princess Leia
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Does anyone know what percentage of the land they own has to be preserved as wetlands? That could be part of the reason (maybe).
Bocabear
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there is plenty of land...they just choose not to develop it.
Not really.
MK is suffering from something called "induced demand". It is a term you often hear with highway design.
The Reader's Digest version of what is happening is expanding the park by adding attractions will increase demand equal to or greater than the capacity added. You just end up back in the same place once the expansion is done.
The only real ways to contract that is to increase the demand at the other parks to drive traffic away from MK, increase the price to go to MK to lower demand, spread the crowds out more evenly inside of MK and/or increase the capacity of the existing attractions.
The first of those is in progress, the price to go to MK has gone up at least for single day tickets, Magic Bands have helped a little to spread out crowds, but increasing the capacity of existing attractions is just not that easy at MK.
Right. They need to build a bunch of unremarkable, but high capacity attraction that people will do while in the park but aren't "wow" enough to cause people to make a special trip or add days for MK. They already built one such thing with Little Mermaid
And they did double the capacity for Dumbo, but it's a drop in the bucket.
FigmentJedi
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You mean Corey Burton
I think they could add a new churro cart and people would make a special trip to see it.Right. They need to build a bunch of unremarkable, but high capacity attraction that people will do while in the park but aren't "wow" enough to cause people to make a special trip or add days for MK. They already built one such thing with Little Mermaid
And they did double the capacity for Dumbo, but it's a drop in the bucket.
Dumbo was one of the few attractions that could be expanded, but there is not much more low hanging fruit to pick.
DisneyGentlemanV2.0
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It's a good deal, MK had over 20 million in attendance last year without having to invest in an eticket since 1992!!!
All a matter of perspective...
Princess Leia
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If the Flying Carpets were removed from Adventureland, is there room to add another, higher capacity attraction in it's place?
Not really. The space is barely big enough for the spinner that is there.
wdwgreek
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Where are the existing expansion pads in Magic Kingdom? The one behind main street in between tomorowland and main street is one right? I remember there being one in adventureland and in frontierland. With the success of Mona they could build a nice little dark ride nestled in Adventurland. I think the key is that these expansion pads have to be used. They need to expand the pak on stage space with a D tickets, every land needs its new fantasyland expansion.
Mike S
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Sadly a monster of their own creation through years of neglect and stagnation especially at the non-MK parks.
Do you work in management?
Here's the expansion space you're looking for.
EPCOTCenterLover
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MK being overcrowded is the result of two things:
1- It's THE park that symbolizes WDW to most people, so it the must-see place.
2- The other parks have been ignored and underdeveloped for years.
...and the excuse of "lack of money" has nothing to do with it.
1- It's THE park that symbolizes WDW to most people, so it the must-see place.
2- The other parks have been ignored and underdeveloped for years.
...and the excuse of "lack of money" has nothing to do with it.
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Andrew C
You know what's funny?
The last thing I want right now is more people coming to MK. I think they need to stay focused on increasing capacity at the other parks (and give people more reasons to go to them) before starting any kind of MK expansion.
Replacements/Updates though...that would be nice.
Replacements/Updates though...that would be nice.
Not enough for what the MK needs to happen though.
Epcot has the biggest potential and wasted capacity for swallowing crowds. It used to have people eating pavilions. It has wide walkways. It used to have a wide, uncluttered promonade for easy access around the lagoon.
I shudder to suggest that it might be time for that 5th gate. One designed around the very young crowd.
CaptainAmerica
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I disagree, simply because of the impact that nighttime spectaculars have. Rivers of Light is going to draw people to Animal Kingdom in a way that no new Epcot attraction could, simply because Epcot already has ROE.
CaptainAmerica
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"Very young" like toddlers? Or like twenty-somethings?