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Rumor Pixar's Coco coming to the Mexico Pavilion

Sir_Cliff

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Slow down. Not completely dead. Read back a couple pages.
I don't know, I'm getting the impression that the sudden silence on this project suggests it is dead unless something significantly changes. The film has done very well in Europe and China which could suggest it be used in those parks over there if they have a decent concept. For example, Coco was the #5 highest grossing film to be released in France last year, far above all the Marvel properties they're jamming into Disneyland Paris. Marvel sells toys, though...
 
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Cmdr_Crimson

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I don't know, I'm getting the impression that the sudden silence on this project suggests it is dead unless something significantly changes. The film has done very well in Europe and China which could suggest it be used in those parks over there if they have a decent concept. For example, Coco was the #5 highest grossing film to be released in France last year, far above all the Marvel properties they're jamming into Disneyland Paris. Marvels sells toys, though...
With the Small exhibit inside the entrance of the Temple it has to mean something besides just ironically being about The Day of the Dead.
 

Biff215

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While I enjoyed the movie and agree it fits, I fear what it would do to the pavilion. It’s just not set up for a popular attraction. Changes could always be made to accommodate a bigger line and FP+, but that’s what concerns me the most.

I like the current feel of the pavilion and that it actually has a ride you don’t have to plan out 60 days in advance.
 

disneygeek90

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Also, it can take years from a movie release for the IP to be parkified...

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I was just at Bugs Life on Saturday and was wondering when it was opened vs the release of the movie, I knew they should have been very close in time. Cool! I guess it was the perfect storm for a new park, a new Pixar movie and a great theme for something under a tree.

Also, did I miss Coco news, has there been an official release or still rumors?
 

Sir_Cliff

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I was just at Bugs Life on Saturday and was wondering when it was opened vs the release of the movie, I knew they should have been very close in time. Cool! I guess it was the perfect storm for a new park, a new Pixar movie and a great theme for something under a tree.

Also, did I miss Coco news, has there been an official release or still rumors?
I guess we don't know anything for sure, but I get the impression from the silence of @marni1971 and some posts that it's pretty much dead, so to speak.
 

Otterhead

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Just a M&G and Being "Flavor's of the Month" in a Street Party...
Their treatment of Zootopia still baffles me. Award-winning billion-dollar film, and you will not find one piece of merchandise in any American Disney park. Not one T-shirt, doll, toy, or mug. The characters don't do any meet-and-greets, just wave in a single parade. Zero plans for any attractions. No active sequel plans.
 

HauntedPirate

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Their treatment of Zootopia still baffles me. Award-winning billion-dollar film, and you will not find one piece of merchandise in any American Disney park. Not one T-shirt, doll, toy, or mug. The characters don't do any meet-and-greets, just wave in a single parade. Zero plans for any attractions. No active sequel plans.
Because... maybe... despite a good box office take, it's really not that popular? :cautious:
 

Otterhead

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Because... maybe... despite a good box office take, it's really not that popular?
On the contrary, it's super popular. I saw homemade Zootopia shirts all over the park (since Disney didn't make any), and people cheering and freaking out when Nick Wilde went by in the parade. The DVD/Blu-Ray sold like crazy. It's one of their most popular films of the last ten years. But you wouldn't know it from merchandise sales (since there aren't any to purchase).
 

Sir_Cliff

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I’ve had no confirmation but given the silence and an unrelated discussion about capex recently it doesn’t look as certain as it did last year.
Thanks for the update! Much appreciated.

On the contrary, it's super popular. I saw homemade Zootopia shirts all over the park (since Disney didn't make any), and people cheering and freaking out when Nick Wilde went by in the parade. The DVD/Blu-Ray sold like crazy. It's one of their most popular films of the last ten years. But you wouldn't know it from merchandise sales (since there aren't any to purchase).
The way Disney has treated Zootopia is very strange. Great reviews, huge box office (worldwide it's the 30th highest-grossing film of all time), and almost completely ignored by Disney. I wonder whether Disney has grown so large and acquired so many properties that they just pick a few "winners" in terms of merchandising and park attractions (e.g. Frozen, Princesses, Star Wars, Marvel, Cars) and let everything else come and go from the cinemas with minimal fuss unless they spark a Frozen-level craze.
 

Otterhead

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I wonder whether Disney has grown so large and acquired so many properties that they just pick a few "winners" in terms of merchandising and park attractions (e.g. Frozen, Princesses, Star Wars, Marvel, Cars) and let everything else come and go from the cinemas with minimal fuss unless they spark a Frozen-level craze.
That's honestly what I think -- that they try to focus on specific big-hit genres: right now it's Frozen for girls, Cars/Marvel for boys, Star Wars for teens/adults. Zootopia was a huge hit but I suppose it's harder to pigeonhole who its merch would be aimed at. There's virtually nothing for Wreck-It Ralph, either, and it was popular enough to get a sequel this year.
 

HauntedPirate

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On the contrary, it's super popular. I saw homemade Zootopia shirts all over the park (since Disney didn't make any), and people cheering and freaking out when Nick Wilde went by in the parade. The DVD/Blu-Ray sold like crazy. It's one of their most popular films of the last ten years. But you wouldn't know it from merchandise sales (since there aren't any to purchase).
DVD/BluRay sales are almost the same as with 'Big Hero 6', released in 2014, and slight lower than 'Moana', released the same year.

Disney excels at merchandising. If there was demand for 'Zootopia' merchandise, they'd make it. Or... maybe there was merchandise around the time the movie was released and it stunk up store shelves. It's box office was 2/3 overseas, maybe that's where the demand and merchandise are?

We really liked BH6, Wreck-It Ralph, Moana, etc. But in my family of Disney freaks (DVC owners, literally more WDW trips than I can remember, one amazing trip to DL, WDW AP holders on multiple occasions [3 of the 6 in our family have current APs], we've see all the movies when they come out for the past 20 years, and we used to reserve the VHS and DVD movies for the exclusive lithographs back in the day... still have them all), 'Zootopia' is an after-thought. It was almost literally a one-and-done for everyone, my daughter being the exception, she watched it once or twice on Netflix after it was released. For whatever reason, it didn't resonate outside the box office like 'Frozen', 'Big Hero 6', and 'Moana' did with audiences. I don't really know why. I do know that it ranks down with 'The Good Dinosaur' in my house, where we won't even turn it on if we see it on a Starz movie channel. *shrug* YMMV.
 

Magenta Panther

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Thanks for the update! Much appreciated.


The way Disney has treated Zootopia is very strange. Great reviews, huge box office (worldwide it's the 30th highest-grossing film of all time), and almost completely ignored by Disney. I wonder whether Disney has grown so large and acquired so many properties that they just pick a few "winners" in terms of merchandising and park attractions (e.g. Frozen, Princesses, Star Wars, Marvel, Cars) and let everything else come and go from the cinemas with minimal fuss unless they spark a Frozen-level craze.
I'm beginning to wonder if Iger's got a thing against merchandising anything that's not attached to any of his acquisitions. His merch pirates were pretty slow to move on Frozen, after all. It finally got a reluctant little ride shoehorned into a tiny dark ride in Norway. But BOY, Star Wars gets its own LAND and HOTEL. But hey, at least Tangled got a bathroom!

Once again, I'm convinced that, aside from the profits it can generate, Iger doesn't really get or like Disney.
 

bcoachable

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I'm beginning to wonder if Iger's got a thing against merchandising anything that's not attached to any of his acquisitions. His merch pirates were pretty slow to move on Frozen, after all. It finally got a reluctant little ride shoehorned into a tiny dark ride in Norway. But BOY, Star Wars gets its own LAND and HOTEL. But hey, at least Tangled got a bathroom!

Once again, I'm convinced that, aside from the profits it can generate, Iger doesn't really get or like Disney.
Thats an interesting angle.
 

DisneyFan18

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DVD/BluRay sales are almost the same as with 'Big Hero 6', released in 2014, and slight lower than 'Moana', released the same year.

Disney excels at merchandising. If there was demand for 'Zootopia' merchandise, they'd make it. Or... maybe there was merchandise around the time the movie was released and it stunk up store shelves. It's box office was 2/3 overseas, maybe that's where the demand and merchandise are?

We really liked BH6, Wreck-It Ralph, Moana, etc. But in my family of Disney freaks (DVC owners, literally more WDW trips than I can remember, one amazing trip to DL, WDW AP holders on multiple occasions [3 of the 6 in our family have current APs], we've see all the movies when they come out for the past 20 years, and we used to reserve the VHS and DVD movies for the exclusive lithographs back in the day... still have them all), 'Zootopia' is an after-thought. It was almost literally a one-and-done for everyone, my daughter being the exception, she watched it once or twice on Netflix after it was released. For whatever reason, it didn't resonate outside the box office like 'Frozen', 'Big Hero 6', and 'Moana' did with audiences. I don't really know why. I do know that it ranks down with 'The Good Dinosaur' in my house, where we won't even turn it on if we see it on a Starz movie channel. *shrug* YMMV.
If you wouldn't mind, I would like to know what's your & your family's opinion on Coco? :)
 

HauntedMansionFLA

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I'm beginning to wonder if Iger's got a thing against merchandising anything that's not attached to any of his acquisitions. His merch pirates were pretty slow to move on Frozen, after all. It finally got a reluctant little ride shoehorned into a tiny dark ride in Norway. But BOY, Star Wars gets its own LAND and HOTEL. But hey, at least Tangled got a bathroom!

Once again, I'm convinced that, aside from the profits it can generate, Iger doesn't really get or like Disney.
People have brought up Zootopia too. Interesting thought
 
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