Phasing out Fantasmic?

[WDW1974]

Ah ... like the typical out of control threads here ... so many points, so many misconceptions, so much ... talk.

First, Fantasmic isn't being phased out. It's not going anywhere. It is very popular, which is why so many folks are angry about it showing four times a week now over three nights versus twice nightly a year ago (and most summers ... except when they had THREE shows a night!)

The only reason it has been cut is because it is very costly to show. Cutting it has also allowed TDO to close the park at 7 p.m. three nights a week (unbelievably on Fridays and Saturdays) for the first time in summer since the park opened (now ... where's the first person who wants to challenge that fact?) and save tremendously on labor as well.

Disney's World of Color, which should be Disney's WONDERFUL World of Color (need to ask Richard Sherman if this is someway of avoiding paying him and his bro royalties) since it is based on that show's theme song, will raise the bar of nighttime shows at Disney parks. It also will NOT be coming to WDW ... and has no place both literally and thematically at DAK.

Its technology may well wind up in the next version of Illuminations, but would be a completely different production ... and, no, to my knowledge it isn't anything but blue sky at present.

WoC IS coming to TDS. I believe it will be debutting in 2012.

Rivers of Light is dead and was a parade/street spectacular that would have used lights, animal imagery and Japanese lanterns in something very unique. But it wasn't on the water. It also didn't die because of any issues with tree removal. That was bull and was thrown out after millions were spent on development because Jay Rasulo wanted a boutique animal park, which as we know is dead.

Did I miss anything?

Oh yeah, Pocahontas was featured prominently in Fantasmic because they updated the show for its Disney-MGM debut in 1998 (six years after it opened in Anaheim) so they could include characters from films like Hunchback, Hercules and Mulan. I loved all of those films, so I don't have any issue with that. And Pocahontas was wonderful and made lots of money for Disney. It also had an incredible sountrack, which is why it will also be prominently featured in WoC next year.

Did I cover everything?

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

^Shining post of truth in an otherwise unruly thread!
:sohappy:

On the topic of Night time entertainment at Animal Kingdom, There's just no show for Discovery River since it's built as a waterway for transportation and sepreation of the "hub" from the rest of the park. Really there's nothing for that.

A nighttime parade would be cool, but I personally would not sacrifice changes in the pathways or landscaping for it.

I don't think it would need it!:shrug: Shame it's dead though...

Ah ... like the typical out of control threads here ... so many points, so many misconceptions, so much ... talk.

First, Fantasmic isn't being phased out. It's not going anywhere. It is very popular, which is why so many folks are angry about it showing four times a week now over three nights versus twice nightly a year ago (and most summers ... except when they had THREE shows a night!)

The only reason it has been cut is because it is very costly to show. Cutting it has also allowed TDO to close the park at 7 p.m. three nights a week (unbelievably on Fridays and Saturdays) for the first time in summer since the park opened (now ... where's the first person who wants to challenge that fact?) and save tremendously on labor as well.

Disney's World of Color, which should be Disney's WONDERFUL World of Color (need to ask Richard Sherman if this is someway of avoiding paying him and his bro royalties) since it is based on that show's theme song, will raise the bar of nighttime shows at Disney parks. It also will NOT be coming to WDW ... and has no place both literally and thematically at DAK.

Its technology may well wind up in the next version of Illuminations, but would be a completely different production ... and, no, to my knowledge it isn't anything but blue sky at present.

WoC IS coming to TDS. I believe it will be debutting in 2012.

Rivers of Light is dead and was a parade/street spectacular that would have used lights, animal imagery and Japanese lanterns in something very unique. But it wasn't on the water. It also didn't die because of any issues with tree removal. That was bull and was thrown out after millions were spent on development because Jay Rasulo wanted a boutique animal park, which as we know is dead.

Did I miss anything?

Oh yeah, Pocahontas was featured prominently in Fantasmic because they updated the show for its Disney-MGM debut in 1998 (six years after it opened in Anaheim) so they could include characters from films like Hunchback, Hercules and Mulan. I loved all of those films, so I don't have any issue with that. And Pocahontas was wonderful and made lots of money for Disney. It also had an incredible sountrack, which is why it will also be prominently featured in WoC next year.

Did I cover everything?

So...Nightly/Beastly/Annoyingly Kingdom killed it? Sheesh. I would think that budgets couldn't be tapered with like that.

Then again...Hello, Jay!:lol:

As for F! and TPFKATDMGMS....What prohibited it from getting it's refurb?


....And that should do it for me on the fine day. Gnight, folks!:wave:

 

[sponono88]

phasing out Fantasmic doesn't seem like such a good idea.. DHS needs every bit of help it can get, and getting rid of such a popular show will not be good for the park.

what the show does need, however, is a good lengthy refurb as well as the updates that F! at DL has gotten over the past few years. it needs to be freshened up a little!

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

phasing out Fantasmic doesn't seem like such a good idea.. DHS needs every bit of help it can get, and getting rid of such a popular show will not be good for the park.

what the show does need, however, is a good lengthy refurb as well as the updates that F! at DL has gotten over the past few years. it needs to be freshened up a little!

Yes, Nightastic it. Bring the rest of the campaign to WDW, too.:lookaroun

 

[unkadug]

Perhaps SkyDance was actually being developed for the studios. The Epcot tests were just to throw everybody off the trail. :lookaroun


(just a thought)

 

[JEANYLASER]

I agreed!

 

[unkadug]

I agreed!

with what?

 

[JEANYLASER]

I meant to say is that I don't want to see Fantasmic go!

 

[ttalovebug]

Ah ... like the typical out of control threads here ... so many points, so many misconceptions, so much ... talk.

First, Fantasmic isn't being phased out. It's not going anywhere. It is very popular, which is why so many folks are angry about it showing four times a week now over three nights versus twice nightly a year ago (and most summers ... except when they had THREE shows a night!)

The only reason it has been cut is because it is very costly to show. Cutting it has also allowed TDO to close the park at 7 p.m. three nights a week (unbelievably on Fridays and Saturdays) for the first time in summer since the park opened (now ... where's the first person who wants to challenge that fact?) and save tremendously on labor as well.

Disney's World of Color, which should be Disney's WONDERFUL World of Color (need to ask Richard Sherman if this is someway of avoiding paying him and his bro royalties) since it is based on that show's theme song, will raise the bar of nighttime shows at Disney parks. It also will NOT be coming to WDW ... and has no place both literally and thematically at DAK.

Its technology may well wind up in the next version of Illuminations, but would be a completely different production ... and, no, to my knowledge it isn't anything but blue sky at present.

WoC IS coming to TDS. I believe it will be debutting in 2012.

Rivers of Light is dead and was a parade/street spectacular that would have used lights, animal imagery and Japanese lanterns in something very unique. But it wasn't on the water. It also didn't die because of any issues with tree removal. That was bull and was thrown out after millions were spent on development because Jay Rasulo wanted a boutique animal park, which as we know is dead.

Did I miss anything?

Oh yeah, Pocahontas was featured prominently in Fantasmic because they updated the show for its Disney-MGM debut in 1998 (six years after it opened in Anaheim) so they could include characters from films like Hunchback, Hercules and Mulan. I loved all of those films, so I don't have any issue with that. And Pocahontas was wonderful and made lots of money for Disney. It also had an incredible sountrack, which is why it will also be prominently featured in WoC next year.

Did I cover everything?

I am so glad Pocahontas is being used for WOC and is still being used for Fantasmic. People get very caught up in the historical inaccuracies, but, while there are some, it was still a beautiful film with some of Menken's best work. I love hearing that music in the parks. Now we need more Hunchback music being used as well..............

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Perhaps SkyDance was actually being developed for the studios. The Epcot tests were just to throw everybody off the trail. :lookaroun


(just a thought)

Experimental...prototype...Nevermind.:lookaroun :lol:

I am so glad Pocahontas is being used for WOC and is still being used for Fantasmic. People get very caught up in the historical inaccuracies, but, while there are some, it was still a beautiful film with some of Menken's best work. I love hearing that music in the parks. Now we need more Hunchback music being used as well..............

Agreed! Was just listening to some today!...Wow. Great stuff.

 

[Harry456]

There are some misconception. Being a custodial Cast Member at Hollywood Studios, Fantasmic has not changed from this past May to present August. They still have two showings every three days of week at 9 and 10:30 (the only time they had four a week was during 4th of July week).

Lately, they have been having Fantasmic every Sun., Tues., and Thurs. I think the confusion here is that Hollywood Studios, on non-Fantasmic nights, have been closing at seven (expect on Extra Magic Hours Nights).

Like i said, I see no reduction in show times for Fantasmic and usually the 9 o'clock showing gets to standing room only or full to capacity. Then, the 10:30 showing sometimes gets to standing room only. Also, a lot of guest ask when/where is Fantasmic. So i don't see Fantasmic phased out anytime soon

 

[EpcotServo]

Rivers of Light is dead and was a parade/street spectacular that would have used lights, animal imagery and Japanese lanterns in something very unique. But it wasn't on the water. It also didn't die because of any issues with tree removal. That was bull and was thrown out after millions were spent on development because Jay Rasulo wanted a boutique animal park, which as we know is dead.

That makes me mad with rage!

Man, an intimate low-level late night High-Technology parade based on Japanese festivals, telling a legendary animal story would be insanely amazing and perfect. That's what I want to see.

Sigh...

RASULOOOOOOO!!!!!
*Shakes fist in air*

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

That makes me mad with rage!

Man, an intimate low-level late night High-Technology parade based on Japanese festivals, telling a legendary animal story would be insanely amazing and perfect. That's what I want to see.

Sigh...

RASULOOOOOOO!!!!!
*Shakes fist in air*

It sounds like ToN for DAK.... Would have been nice, especially for a park that needs to stay open later.