Disstevefan1
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That's nothing for FoP. I'm used to 2-3 hour waits. I can handle 105 easy in that queue.
This is exactly the problem!!!!!!!!!!!!! Disney has created a "new normal" of standby waits of 105 minutes!!!!
That's nothing for FoP. I'm used to 2-3 hour waits. I can handle 105 easy in that queue.
I'm less upset about a 105 minute wait on a fairly new ride than I am about a 30 minute wait on Small World.This is exactly the problem!!!!!!!!!!!!! Disney has created a "new normal" of standby waits of 105 minutes!!!!
I'm less upset about a 105 minute wait on a fairly new ride than I am about a 30 minute wait on Small World.
Doesn't bewilder me. It's the FP+ effect.A 30 minute wait on Small World does not upset me as much as it bewilders me
Doesn't bewilder me. It's the FP+ effect.
That's the most confusing decision with FP+. Why give a Fastpass to people-eaters like Small World, Pirates, and Spaceship Earth? At the very least, Disneyland realized that with Pirates and didn't fully implement Maxpass for it.Absolutely True!! The FP+ effect. Good point. Bewilderment Gone.
To create "value" for the whole FP+ concept and to ration the existing rides. There are only just so many spaces available on the popular rides.That's the most confusing decision with FP+. Why give a Fastpass to people-eaters like Small World, Pirates, and Spaceship Earth? At the very least, Disneyland realized that with Pirates and didn't fully implement Maxpass for it.
This is exactly the problem!!!!!!!!!!!!! Disney has created a "new normal" of standby waits of 105 minutes!!!!
Don't post much anymore, but this made me think, also made me a bit annoyed.
So attendance predictions look "soft" ok....
What does TDO do? Cut back labor, tighten up budgets, make an empty park feel fuller. Great! And, now, if their predictions are off, then this "optimized staffing" will make for a nightmare-ish park experience.
Wouldn't the better move be to fully staff and operate the parks. If attendance is soft, great, all the guests get a wonderful experience, making them more likely to return. Doesn't that seem like the better long term strategery?
Also, maybe it would help to give folks a reason to visit outside of whatever current festival Epcot is running and sundry after hour "parties" that effectively double the cost of your day at MK? I dunno...
Call me crazy.
They don't seem to be interested in long term plans any more. They only seem able to look one quarter ahead.Don't post much anymore, but this made me think, also made me a bit annoyed.
So attendance predictions look "soft" ok....
What does TDO do? Cut back labor, tighten up budgets, make an empty park feel fuller. Great! And, now, if their predictions are off, then this "optimized staffing" will make for a nightmare-ish park experience.
Wouldn't the better move be to fully staff and operate the parks. If attendance is soft, great, all the guests get a wonderful experience, making them more likely to return. Doesn't that seem like the better long term strategery?
Also, maybe it would help to give folks a reason to visit outside of whatever current festival Epcot is running and sundry after hour "parties" that effectively double the cost of your day at MK? I dunno...
Call me crazy.
The standby wait is 30 minutes because there's an entire fastpass line that is prioritized now. The people in standby might be holding FPs for other attractions right now so unable to pull one.Right now, there are FP+s available for IaSW (in fact, they're available for all times slots for the rest of the day). Also, right now, IaSW has a 30 minute wait.
So, how much of that 30 minute wait is attributable to FPs again?
The standby wait is 30 minutes because there's an entire fastpass line that is prioritized now. The people in standby might be holding FPs for other attractions right now so unable to pull one.
Plenty of FPs are available for IaSW, almost always is. Almost never is FP used up for it. So, while there may be some FP people, it ain't at max. I would be surprised if IaSW on a normal day is even using 10% of its FPs. People use the FP for the more popular rides. So, if IaSW has a 30 minute wait, very little can be attributed to hordes of FPs bumping the stand-by.
You can't FP everything. So even if there is FP available, if you haven't used your 3 prescheduled FPs yet, you can't pull one. But someone is pulling them (maybe they don't know better?) And every single one of them is a priority over anyone waiting in standby.
And my point is there's almost no one using FP on IaSW to be prioritized over anyone waiting in standby.
Not necessarily. The decision about whether to do a ride at all is often impacted by whether they have a FP or not.And if those people who had a fastpass for IaSW didn't get in the fastpass line wouldn't they be in the stand by anyway??
And if those people who had a fastpass for IaSW didn't get in the fastpass line wouldn't they be in the stand by anyway??
Well, to be fair, I've used a FP+ on Its A Small World, but as a 6th or 7th day of FP...And my point is there's almost no one using FP on IaSW to be prioritized over anyone waiting in standby.
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