News Paradise Pier Becoming Pixar Pier

THE 1HAPPY HAUNT

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I've been to DCA twice since Pixar opened, but have yet to set foot in the land.

I think I'm happier not going, since I can pretend the photos and videos I've seen online don't exist.

In my mind, that area still looks like it did in 2015, the last time I was in that land. I like to think of it as Schroedinger's land- right now it's both Pixar Pier and Paradise pier in my mind. It's both alive and dead at the same time.
So Pixar Pier is a zombie. It is the theme park from zombieland? Lol
 

Disney Irish

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I've been to DCA twice since Pixar opened, but have yet to set foot in the land.

I think I'm happier not going, since I can pretend the photos and videos I've seen online don't exist.

In my mind, that area still looks like it did in 2015, the last time I was in that land. I like to think of it as Schroedinger's land- right now it's both Pixar Pier and Paradise pier in my mind. It's both alive and dead at the same time.

I give you points for introducing quantum mechanics into the discussion.
 

Rich T

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Sounds interesting, reminds me sort of like an updated version of the Frito Kid display from back in the 50s-60s. Still wish I could have experienced that.

@Darkbeer1 what do you think, sound like this generations Frito Kid?
Forgive me for butting in, but No. The Frito Kid hadn’t died tragically in a very sad movie scene, and the corn chips weren’t composed of his now-undead body chemicals, rendering the whole device ghoulish, cynical and inappropriate.
... But other than *that*, it could be seen as a neat little callback. Seriously, if Inside Out wasn’t one of my favorite Pixar movies and I could get past the selling-a-dead-hero’s body-parts aspect, I would love this. :D
 

mickEblu

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They’re actually using an illustration of the very scene in which Bing Bong SACRIFICES HIS LIFE as if it were a happy moment. It really does seem as if no one involved in this ghoulish store ever actually saw the movie. It’s like using Bambi’s Mom on a mural in Cabela’s rifle department.

I’ll take one order of Nemo’s mom and chips please.
 

DanielBB8

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I've been to DCA twice since Pixar opened, but have yet to set foot in the land.

I think I'm happier not going, since I can pretend the photos and videos I've seen online don't exist.

In my mind, that area still looks like it did in 2015, the last time I was in that land. I like to think of it as Schroedinger's land- right now it's both Pixar Pier and Paradise pier in my mind. It's both alive and dead at the same time.
Another person that didn’t visit Lamplight Lounge. Many people were there for the food instead of the rides, which were minimal. So success is really measured by dollars with Pixar Pier. LOL.
 

VJ

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I don't have the energy to argue with you, but I will push back a bit and say that Chepek is not graded by his boss on what some obsessive online fans think. The 100 percent increase in operating income over the past 5 years, which is remarkable, signals to Iger, the board, and stockholders that Chapek is doing what he was hired to do. $4.5 billion makes our opinions, negative or positive, irrelevant.
As much as I disagree with Chapek's business decisions, Hans has a very good point. Disney wants more money and Chapek is bringing them more money.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Forgive me for butting in, but No. The Frito Kid hadn’t died tragically in a very sad movie scene, and the corn chips weren’t composed of his now-undead body chemicals, rendering the whole device ghoulish, cynical and inappropriate.
... But other than *that*, it could be seen as a neat little callback. Seriously, if Inside Out wasn’t one of my favorite Pixar movies and I could get past the selling-a-dead-hero’s body-parts aspect, I would love this. :D

How do you know that we were not actually eating Klondike and that the Frito Kid was just "throwing his voice" down the mine.... :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:

Anyways, I know its a sensitive topic for you with Bing Bong. But in the end he's a cute little character that kids recognize and enjoy. I'm personally of the opinion that there is no harm in "celebrating" a hero, even a fallen one.
 

Andrew_Ryan

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I agree with pretty much everything you say here and I also agree that if Disney projects continue to go the way of Pixar Pier (the next 2 years alone don't seem to confirm that though) then there will be a slump/kickback at some point. What I was trying to get at was that 99% of park consumers couldn't (conciously) care less about ideas like thematic integrity. I have no doubt in my mind that the thought process of an average park guest towards something like Pixar Pier is "I like Pixar. There is something new at Disneyland. It is a new thing that is Pixar. Therefore, I like it!"

I believe way more than 1% of visitors respond critically to the visual quality of the parks, theming aside. I think it's why Disneyland is generally more popular. It's also why they spent so much money redoing the entire entrance to the park. People like spending time in places that look nice.

Also, when you have things like Cars Land, Wizarding World, Avatar Land and the upcoming Star Wars Land setting industry standards, I can imagine many park-going Pixar fans getting to Pixar Pier and being disappointed. It's why I don't understand the overlay. California Screaming doesn't promise anything other than being a nice rollercoaster. But once you put The Incredibles on it, I feel like people would have higher expectations than static figures along a track.
 

Disneylover152

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California Screaming doesn't promise anything other than being a nice rollercoaster. But once you put The Incredibles on it, I feel like people would have higher expectations than static figures along a track.

I feel like it is already known by many people, including many AP Holders and just general park guests that the Incredicoaster is underwhelming and not good.
 

Ismael Flores

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Forgive me for butting in, but No. The Frito Kid hadn’t died tragically in a very sad movie scene, and the corn chips weren’t composed of his now-undead body chemicals, rendering the whole device ghoulish, cynical and inappropriate.
... But other than *that*, it could be seen as a neat little callback. Seriously, if Inside Out wasn’t one of my favorite Pixar movies and I could get past the selling-a-dead-hero’s body-parts aspect, I would love this. :D
i don’t understand this whole thing with Disney using a dead character for promotional use. Every Disney movie has had a dead character in it and many of times they have been eploited with character merchandise or are present in the parks.
 

Ismael Flores

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I feel like it is already known by many people, including many AP Holders and just general park guests that the Incredicoaster is underwhelming and not good.
thats a pretty bold comment especially since the lines form it have been pretty steady.
i see several issues with the ride and parts of it are underwhelming but its not that bad and people actually seem to enjoy it.

i do think that this overlay would have been a good ride for more tunnel projections and maybe even added mists to help hide some of the sunlight from that ruins the tubes purpose though.
of course there are the bad choice of jack jack sticks instead of airblown puppets
 

Rich T

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i don’t understand this whole thing with Disney using a dead character for promotional use. Every Disney movie has had a dead character in it and many of times they have been eploited with character merchandise or are present in the parks.
Have you ever seen Mufasa, Bambi’s Mom, Nemo’s Mom, Tarzan’s parents, Carl’s Wife or any other good/heroic character who died tragically in a Disney/Pixar film used to hawk merchandise in a Disney park before this? I sure hope not.

Have you seen Inside Out? The Pixack Pier shop is as appropriate and tasteful as an Old Yeller dog treat store featuring Gummi Rabies.
 

Rich T

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How do you know that we were not actually eating Klondike and that the Frito Kid was just "throwing his voice" down the mine.... :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:

Anyways, I know its a sensitive topic for you with Bing Bong. But in the end he's a cute little character that kids recognize and enjoy. I'm personally of the opinion that there is no harm in "celebrating" a hero, even a fallen one.
LOL re: Frito Kid. :D Seriously, though, rewatch Bing Bong’s death scene sometime and tell me if you think selling his candy tears is more “What Disney Should Represent” or “Welcome to Pinocchio’s Pleasure Island Bwahahaha.” For me, this particular shop is where Disney crossed a line. Again, it’s like a Mad Magazine satire of how Disney would use the Bing Bong character... but this time it really happened.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
LOL re: Frito Kid. :D Seriously, though, rewatch Bing Bong’s death scene sometime and tell me if you think selling his candy tears is more “What Disney Should Represent” or “Welcome to Pinocchio’s Pleasure Island Bwahahaha.” For me, this particular shop is where Disney crossed a line. Again, it’s like a Mad Magazine satire of how Disney would use the Bing Bong character... but this time it really happened.

I just watched it again tonight, it was playing on Starz. Anyways, I still don't see an issue with it. But sometimes the way you talk about it its as if kids are going to be traumatized and harmed. Guess we have to start calling CPS on any parent that buys their kid a Bing Bong plush or any candy from the Bing Bong display. :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:
 

DanielBB8

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They’re actually using an illustration of the very scene in which Bing Bong SACRIFICES HIS LIFE as if it were a happy moment. It really does seem as if no one involved in this ghoulish store ever actually saw the movie. It’s like using Bambi’s Mom on a mural in Cabela’s rifle department.
Bing Bong doesn’t want to be forgotten. You seem to want that. He is a faded memory and forgotten by Riley. So now you think this figure in the store is totally wrong and Bing Bong should be forgotten?

Anyways, the exception proves the rule. Why should only the villains be in the theme parks? I seen enough of Ursula, Malificent, and Gaston who are still alive in the parks.
 
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lazyboy97o

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i don’t understand this whole thing with Disney using a dead character for promotional use. Every Disney movie has had a dead character in it and many of times they have been eploited with character merchandise or are present in the parks.
Gaston’s Tavern isn’t built around imagery of Gaston falling to his death. Le Fou’s Brew isn’t made of tears. The problem isn’t Bing Bong, it is the specific imagery focused on his sadness and death.
 

Ismael Flores

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Have you ever seen Mufasa, Bambi’s Mom, Nemo’s Mom, Tarzan’s parents, Carl’s Wife or any other good/heroic character who died tragically in a Disney/Pixar film used to hawk merchandise in a Disney park before this? I sure hope not.

Have you seen Inside Out? The Pixack Pier shop is as appropriate and tasteful as an Old Yeller dog treat store featuring Gummi Rabies.

actually i have,

they sold Bambi with his Mom stuff toys before and they sold Mufasa toys as well. also non of those characters had such a dominating roll in the movie as this character.
even all the villians have pretty much died and been heavy merchandise sellers.
 

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