News Paradise Pier Becoming Pixar Pier

dweezil78

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Tokyo doesn't have a land dedicated to Pixar or a Pixar IP. There are rides, but not an entire dedicated area.

Technically, Toy Story resides in a mini-land called Toyville Trolley Park at TDS which contains the ride, a shop, and a few other little things to see. Not a full fledged land like the others, but it does have it's own design and name to it!
 

TROR

Well-Known Member
Proof that Pixar Pier is the work of the devil
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It would be all character stuff. That's what OLC wants now because their guests are crazy for it.
The Japanese have a terribly unhealthy obsession with Disney. Children things in general, really. Children, too, actually. Japan's wack.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
DHS badly needed rides that could eat people and give them something to do. Toy Story Land accomplishes absolutely none of that.

Overflowing queue isn’t really dhs’s problem. It’s problem was lack of child friendly rides to complement its show heavy roster.

Capacity will come with gmr’s return and swl
 

Brad Bishop

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I'll give you that TSL wasn't exactly what DHS needed, but its a step in the right direction. Unlike what we have...

I think that the ultimate problem is that: "It was better than nothing"

DHS had been without updates for so long that they could do whatever and it's a win. Ultimately TSL and the Pixar Pier exist because of "synergy". That's where it begins and ends.
 

Kram Sacul

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In the Parks
Yes
Technically, Toy Story resides in a mini-land called Toyville Trolley Park at TDS which contains the ride, a shop, and a few other little things to see. Not a full fledged land like the others, but it does have it's own design and name to it!

From what I’ve seen it has way more going for it than Pixar Pier. That giant Woody head entrance for Midway Mania is great.
 
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Tokyo doesn't have a land dedicated to Pixar or a Pixar IP. There are rides, but not an entire dedicated area.

Totally forgot about Tokyo. Still they do have the Toy Story mini carnival at DisneySea.

Of course, OLC might have something to do with that. Something as tacky as Pixar Pier or TSL probably wouldn't fit their high standards.

Umm, yeah, their standards far exceed anything I've ever seen...

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Somehow Nemo Subs and Cars Land don't count for that? Cars Land is the mother of all pixar IP lands.

Well sure, but Toy Story seems to be the thread that connects all the others. What I mean is that the impetus for Pixar Pier began with the desire to bring a Toy Story Land to Anaheim.
 

GiveMeTheMusic

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Totally forgot about Tokyo. Still they do have the Toy Story mini carnival at DisneySea.



Umm, yeah, their standards far exceed anything I've ever seen...

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It's not really fair to pick areas that haven't been updated since they were originally built 35 years ago, although the second image (Star Jets) is now gone to make way for the Baymax/Beauty and the Beast expansion. TDL's Fantasyland is on the ugly side, but it's not yet been rebuilt.

Anything OLC greenlights now (and for the last 15-20 years or so) is on the elaborate side. The art for the new TDS expansion is breathtaking.
 

Jones14

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Toy Story Land is far from perfect, but it's a better use of space and funds than New Fantasyland or Pixar Pier (by a long shot). Slinky looks more elaborate than expected, and Saucers is still a step above Dumbo, which exists in some theme in every Disney park except for EPCOT and DCA.

The main problem is that DHS needs more to do, but that's the fault of the people who gutted Great Movie Ride, pushed Star Wars to the Streets of America, and cut Phase 3, not the designers of the land. It'll help the park hobble along for a year and then settle into the role of a mini-Fantasyland, which is fine (if unambitious).
 

Little Green Men

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I’m not sure why folks keep mentioning Toy Story Land in comparison to Pixar Pier. They are two vastly different concepts, ones that don’t make sense to compare. If Toy Story Land should be compared to anything, it would be Cars Land. That would be the equivalent.
I think TSL is more comparable to A Bugs Land than Cars land if we’re comparing to any DCA lands
 
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It's not really fair to pick areas that haven't been updated since they were originally built 35 years ago

Why not? We pick everything to pieces here. OLC has had 35 years to update these areas but ignored them and invested elsewhere instead. People on these boards would be losing their minds if Disney were operating TDL and allowed that to happen.

Happy to hear that demolition/construction has finally commenced on the FLE in Tokyo.
 

GiveMeTheMusic

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Why not? We pick everything to pieces here. OLC has had 35 years to update these areas but ignored them and invested elsewhere instead. People on these boards would be losing their minds if Disney were operating TDL and allowed that to happen.

Happy to hear that demolition/construction has finally commenced on the FLE in Tokyo.

I honestly think no one would lose their minds if we had TDR in America, as is, with its same expansion slate, and Dumbo was immaculately maintained but ugly. Everything else there is incredible, they can have their ugly Dumbo.
 

nevol

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Toy Story Land is far from perfect, but it's a better use of space and funds than New Fantasyland or Pixar Pier (by a long shot).

Zero chance I agree about this. How is 11 acres dedicated to some bugs land-level theming and a roller coaster that is less than two minutes and low capacity, a quick service food counter, and a spinner occupying the same amount of space as CARS LAND deemed a better use of space and funds than Pixar Pier? Pixar Pier has 3 spinners, one of / if not the longest looping coaster on earth with very high capacity, several quick service food options, full-scale retail, and a table service restaurant, overlooking a bay with more food, more rides, a dark ride, and a 150 million dollar nighttime spectacular. The only thing that I feel strongly about with Toy Story Land is that it was a trememdous waste of space. Now, all of that sprawling 11 acres can't become anything else. You can't infill that with more dark rides or spinners, and you can't escape the Toy Story IP. New fantasyland, maybe. Really NOT a fan. Not a fan of anything that has happened in orlando in decades except for Pandora. But I find it hard to believe, even if people are upset about the pixar overlay or how cheap it seemed to be as it is comprised of a few major facade improvements and paint jobs, that if you had to choose between pixar pier and toy story land, you would choose toy story land. Imagine losing paradise bay, screamin, mickey's fun wheel, cove bar/lamplight, all for a walk througha bugs land looking area with a family coaster. No bay, no dining fewer rides, no nighttime spectacular.
 

Jones14

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Zero chance I agree about this. How is 11 acres dedicated to some bugs land-level theming and a roller coaster that is less than two minutes and low capacity, a quick service food counter, and a spinner occupying the same amount of space as CARS LAND deemed a better use of space and funds than Pixar Pier? Pixar Pier has 3 spinners, one of / if not the longest looping coaster on earth with very high capacity, several quick service food options, full-scale retail, and a table service restaurant, overlooking a bay with more food, more rides, a dark ride, and a 150 million dollar nighttime spectacular. The only thing that I feel strongly about with Toy Story Land is that it was a trememdous waste of space. Now, all of that sprawling 11 acres can't become anything else. You can't infill that with more dark rides or spinners, and you can't escape the Toy Story IP. New fantasyland, maybe. Really NOT a fan. Not a fan of anything that has happened in orlando in decades except for Pandora. But I find it hard to believe, even if people are upset about the pixar overlay or how cheap it seemed to be as it is comprised of a few major facade improvements and paint jobs, that if you had to choose between pixar pier and toy story land, you would choose toy story land. Imagine losing paradise bay, screamin, mickey's fun wheel, cove bar/lamplight, all for a walk througha bugs land looking area with a family coaster. No bay, no dining fewer rides, no nighttime spectacular.
Because Pixar Pier weakened the thematic consistency of an entire area of the park, overlaid rides that didn’t need to be overlaid with poor results, and added zero new rides to the park.

Toy Story added two new outdoor family rides to a park with two family rides (one with a height requirement) and zero outdoor rides on land that had been underutilized for decades. There’s also tons of expansion room left in DHS, so taking up too much space isn’t really a problem.

Your logic is flawed anyways. Pixar Pier doesn’t get credit for World of Color, TSM, or the restaurant, as they’ve been there for years, and would still be there (along with all the other rides) without the Pixar overlay.

Toy Story Land wouldn’t be great for DCA, but that wasn’t the point; the point was that Toy Story Land was a better use of the company’s money than Pixar Pier, which it was. Nobody said they should’ve torn down the pier and put Toy Story Land on that plot.
 

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