Hatbox Ghostbuster
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I'll give you that TSL wasn't exactly what DHS needed, but its a step in the right direction. Unlike what we have...
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News Paradise Pier Becoming Pixar Pier
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Californian Elitist
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Disagreed. Midway Mania isn’t sufficient enough for me to call them comparable.
Kram Sacul
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Goes along with Mission: Garbage Chute on the other side of the park. Maybe trash really is the new theme for DCA.
dweezil78
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DHS badly needed rides that could eat people and give them something to do. Toy Story Land accomplishes absolutely none of that.
dweezil78
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Then I guess you're comparing the two lands based on which one has more tacky oversized props and trees? I guess I can see the difference then.
mickEblu
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True. Although I originally liked the thought of Pixar Pier more. To me it had more of chance to be a more whimsical take on a Pier (that needed some aesthetic upgrades) and not just another generic Toy Story Land. From the one or two videos I’ve seen it looks like TSL has the better place making. As it should being a purpose built land that cost a few hundred million.
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The Toy Story Lands at DHS, SDL and Pixar Pier complete the alignment of Pixar themed lands across the Disney Parks portfolio, so there's that intersection as well. It's almost certain Anaheim would have gotten a TSL if there'd been somewhere to place one at DLR. Sure, the films represented in Pixar Pier go well beyond just Toy Story, but it's very likely that Pixar Pier evolved from a business strategy mandating contained Pixar IP spaces in at least one park at every Disney resort.
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I watched a walk-through video of the SDL Toy Story Land and I was blown away by how elaborate and big it is. The land's content is worthless, but visually it's very well executed.
nevol
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Somehow Nemo Subs and Cars Land don't count for that? Cars Land is the mother of all pixar IP lands.
nevol
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I think Pixar Pier has worked at keeping and enhancing the pier aspect of its name through good placemaking everywhere except incredibles park (basically, in the two other areas that it has done "pier" placemaking). The use of postmodern kitsch and instagrammable moments pay tribute to that kind of culture present all over california but also at piers, it just does so in a contemporary way that clashes with everything else and replaces that large portfolio of circus and pier amusement architecture already in existence. Like, I keep finding myself being like "oh that banksy balloon wall photo op between the billboards is a great way to activate that space that otherwise is 150 yards of wooden walls" but then immediately my mind goes to "but why is that wall still there and what else could have been done with that space?"
The manifestation theme of the land is the Pier, and the way the village is of fantasyland, where flat rides and surrealism break from the otherwise believable environment, contemporary pixar kitsch breaks from its environment. One difference is that food stalls rather than rides or art installations and interactives are the things really acting iconically, and hidden behind the pier facades is only one dark ride, not 5. It is a good point of departure. A kinetic seaside boardwalk that evokes both main street and fantasyland, but it isn't a point of departure to anything yet. Pixar Promenade is great, for 5 minutes. It used to be great for 0. That's an improvement. But where is turtle talk? Why can't I dip into a strong immersive experience before re-emerging in this space again?
The manifestation theme of the land is the Pier, and the way the village is of fantasyland, where flat rides and surrealism break from the otherwise believable environment, contemporary pixar kitsch breaks from its environment. One difference is that food stalls rather than rides or art installations and interactives are the things really acting iconically, and hidden behind the pier facades is only one dark ride, not 5. It is a good point of departure. A kinetic seaside boardwalk that evokes both main street and fantasyland, but it isn't a point of departure to anything yet. Pixar Promenade is great, for 5 minutes. It used to be great for 0. That's an improvement. But where is turtle talk? Why can't I dip into a strong immersive experience before re-emerging in this space again?
Hatbox Ghostbuster
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lol. I didn't realize there was nothing to do and no rides to go on at TSL.
dweezil78
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There's Toy Story Mania which has been there for 10 years and is the biggest people eater of the 3 attractions there -- other than that, there's a super low capacity coaster and a ridiculously super low capacity spinner ride.
Neither of those two additions come even remotely close to the amount of crowds Great Movie Ride had been swallowing.
Hatbox Ghostbuster
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I realize that. I was just jokingly calling out your hyperbole that TSL didn't accomplish creating anything for people to do. DHS still needs WAY more to break it out of being a half-day park. Maybe TSL will bump it up to a 3/4 day park...but its a far cry from its earlier life.
smile
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makes you wonder what mangum was on comparing dhs tsl to cars land some time back
dweezil78
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I was more focused on the people eating part of my statement... but in the grand scheme of 'things to do,' I don't think it's hyperbole to say there ain't a lot of meat on those bones -- at least not meat that wasn't there already. Maybe long lines not worth waiting in, if you consider that a thing to do.
Hatbox Ghostbuster
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lol, I wasn't even thinking that deep. Just "something to do" as something to physically experience. A rollercoaster and spinner ride (no matter how low capacity) are "things to do".
Anyways...its no skin off my teeth. I still lament the destruction of MGM. That was the only version of DHS worth a damn.
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GiveMeTheMusic
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When she said that at D23 I literally laughed out loud. Cars Land at least has a place, an environment, that it's recreating and immersing you in. Toy Story Land's "place" is uh, uh, hurr, durr, uh, a backyard
SuperStretccch
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Tokyo doesn't have a land dedicated to Pixar or a Pixar IP. There are rides, but not an entire dedicated area.
Of course, OLC might have something to do with that. Something as tacky as Pixar Pier or TSL probably wouldn't fit their high standards.
Hatbox Ghostbuster
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I would love to have OLC come out and re-do DCA.