News Paradise Pier Becoming Pixar Pier

DanielBB8

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Rock Candy Mountain was a proposal for the Storybook Land area, not Holiday Hill. How though is an Alpine mountain next an Alpine castle ridiculous? The design of Sleeping Beauty Castle is not medieval, its references to the Romanesque and Gothic are Victorian era revivalism. So we see an early Victorian era castle at the end of a late Victorian era town. While a castle is not typical of America, its placement plays on an organizational pattern common to Main Streets that create hierarchical focus on an important civic institution. In older towns of the northeast this was typically a church, signifying the religious nature of the community. As American culture shifted with territorial expansion the emphasis changed from religion to republicanism and the courthouse replaced the church as the building of significance, with the railroad station often be another important building in Midwestern towns. A castle is thus a fitting highlight for a Magic Kingdom, it is accepted because it fits into the romantic image and has a similar romantic aesthetic from the same architectural traditions.

That said, this constant attempt to equate Pixar-only lands to Fantasyland ignores that nobody seems to talk about how TRON would make a great addition to Fantasyland. The land is not nor has it ever been just about any and all Disney branded movies.
The architecture is similar to the Neuschwanstein Castle that is a 19th-century Romanesque Revival, not Victorian era revival.

And Sleeping Beauty is based on fairy tales from French or German origins so we can safely say Sleeping Beauty castle is more influenced by Romanesque than Victorian despite the coinciding of the timelines. So take it from here.
 

Professortango1

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So the general theme for Pixar Pier is a Pier with Pixar Characters
So overal the main theming of a Pier is there filled with a collection of Pixar Characters.

KInd of seems like the same thing.
a fantasy land filled with a collection of fables and fantasy characters but then there is IASW.
should the fantasy aspect of IASW be that there is no way we as humans can ever be happy as one world or is it the striped hippos and other oddly painted animals.
Just trying to understand how one is ok and not the other when both lands have a unifying theme

Fantasyland doesn't have Elsa's Snow Comes with a cutout of Elsa. Nor does it have a random Tiki Hut to sell Moana Pretzels. Snow White's Scary Adventures isn't themed to "after the Snow White became Queen, the townspeople built her a ride based on her story. Only when she goes to ride the new Mideival attraction, she finds that the evil witch's ghost has returned."

Pixar Pier is meta. Fantasyland is earnest
 

lazyboy97o

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The architecture is similar to the Neuschwanstein Castle that is a 19th-century Romanesque Revival, not Victorian era revival.

And Sleeping Beauty is based on fairy tales from French or German origins so we can safely say Sleeping Beauty castle is more influenced by Romanesque than Victorian despite the coinciding of the timelines. So take it from here.
Victorian Architecture is not one single style but a variety of styles that were popular during the reign of Queen Victoria. Similarly, Victorian Revival Architecture is a group of various revival styles during the same era. Romanesque Revival is a Victorian Revival style. Romanesque Revival is Victorian Architecture.
 
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George Lucas on a Bench

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Fantasyland doesn't have Elsa's Snow Comes with a cutout of Elsa. Nor does it have a random Tiki Hut to sell Moana Pretzels. Snow White's Scary Adventures isn't themed to "after the Snow White became Queen, the townspeople built her a ride based on her story. Only when she goes to ride the new Mideival attraction, she finds that the evil witch's ghost has returned."

Pixar Pier is meta. Fantasyland is earnest

Fantasyland is perfection. It's also a rare case where the updates to the land actually improved it.

Pixar Pier is slapped-together gaudy pap.

It's also easily the worst major update to a district of these theme parks we've seen in some time. It may have been mentioned before, but it seems like something they came up with when they were drunk but is actually being implemented.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
The creator of several films has outright said his films are not part of a shared universe. That isn’t reading into something that hasn’t been confirmed, it’s deliberately ignoring information you don’t like.

And you read too much into my posts, don't take things so seriously. Its a Disney fan board, its suppose to be fun. Lighten up...
 

Ismael Flores

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I actually agree with you, but I think you've opened my eyes to what my real problem with Pixar Pier is: A pier is just an awful place for a theme park setting. I don't mean a turn of the century era pier, that's a great setting, honestly. But a modern day pier like Santa Monica pier. That's a terrible setting. That's what Pixar Pier is, though. Yes there are a few Victorian elements, but overall we're just back to DCA 1.0's Paradise Pier now with Pixar characters (and the out of place Mickey Mouse). It's completely reverted back to what made it a failure in the first place.

I think the pier setting would have worked better in a setting like it’s original proposal. The whole Pier land idea was original ally conceived for Long Beach Disney sea which would have fit great with the real ocean as it’s bavkdrop. It would have also worked great in the American park that also never got built just like they had designed it. A land devotedly to the whole Americana carnival era
 

George Lucas on a Bench

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Meanwhile, DisneySea gets this:

disneysea29.jpg


Big boat, uh?
 

Stevek

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I don’t see what all the fuss is about. It doesn’t look any bigger than the J-type 327 Nubian Royal Starship.

Didn’t see that one coming, did you? And yes, I had to Wookiepedia that to find the right name. Am I doing this right?
Ah, yes! Nubian! We have lots of thata.
I have no idea Watto you guys are talking about.
 

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