News Paradise Pier Becoming Pixar Pier

mickEblu

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The environments were gob-smacking. I think the character designs were incongruent against that reality. Almost had a Roger Rabbit quality with toons in a real world.

Ya big fail on the character designs. The backgrounds/ environments looked amazing but completely clashed with the characters. It had a few cool moments but overall Horrible writing and no memorable characters. Also seeing the “human beings” represented as critters/ dogs was slightly off-putting.
 

mickEblu

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Again I gotta stand up for the one great thing in this movie: Sam Elliott as Butch the Cowboy T-Rex. Genius casting, typically great Elliott performance and best character design in the film. One of Pixar's best characters ever... stuck in the most forgettable Pixar film ever.

Yeah that was good casting but unfortunately he wasn’t able to outshine the bad writing for me.
 

mickEblu

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Why was The Good Dinosaur set in a timeline where the meteor missed earth? The entire movie is just prehistoric set but with farmers.

Exactly. They didn’t expand on this very much other than the fact the dinosaurs evolved into the smartest beings on earth and “humans” only envolved into wolves or dogs. It was odd that they set the story up this way, only to have Arlo’s family be farmers in a world where they seem to be the only civilized dinosaurs. Just all over the place. Perhaps, they wanted to go in a different direction that would have been too similar to Zootopia?
 
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JD2000

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I do not want to sort of derail this any further but not sure there would be much value in a new dedicated thread, as it would seem to have already been of much discussion here. But...

What do I think it would take to get California Adventure closer to the caliber of Disneyland? Not in any particular order, and definitely not complete:

- overall, the main issue is the rides (the signature ones included) do not reach the same caliber as those in the park next door and so far apart from each other in walking distance.
- needs dark rides of every size. golden vine winery. cars land. pixar pier.
- demolish hollywoodland. space is too valuable and is redundant now as we now have buena vista street.
- bugs land should be also go. space is valuable and pixar pier should be looked at as similar to fastasyland.
- eliminate views of outside the park.
- upgrade anywhere cheap remains.
- soarin' needs to revert back to original, far superior, over california film.
- grizzly river run needs wildlife audio-animatronics.
- etc.
 

britain

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Exactly. They didn’t expand on this very much other than the fact the dinosaurs evolved into the smartest beings on earth and “humans” only envolved into wolves or dogs. It was odd that they set the story up this way, only to have Arlo’s family be farmers in a world where they seem to be the only civilized dinosaurs. Just all over the place. Perhaps, they wanted to go in a different direction that would have been too similar to Zootopia?

The thing that Good Dinosaur was missing was "the city". Seeing a family of dino farmers and ranchers was a nice start, but not distinctive enough. If there had been a visit to some dino downtown, then it could have benefited from some trademark Pixar world-building.
 

Rich T

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Exactly. They didn’t expand on this very much other than the fact the dinosaurs evolved into the smartest beings on earth and “humans” only envolved into wolves or dogs. It was odd that they set the story up this way, only to have Arlo’s family be farmers in a world where they seem to be the only civilized dinosaurs. Just all over the place. Perhaps, they wanted to go in a different direction that would have been too similar to Zootopia?
The entire film should have been about the T-Rex ranchers. Making it an alternate-reality Wild West comedy would have been a lot more interesting than what they ended up with.
 
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I do not want to sort of derail this any further but not sure there would be much value in a new dedicated thread, as it would seem to have already been of much discussion here. But...

What do I think it would take to get California Adventure closer to the caliber of Disneyland? Not in any particular order, and definitely not complete:

- overall, the main issue is the rides (the signature ones included) do not reach the same caliber as those in the park next door and so far apart from each other in walking distance.
- needs dark rides of every size. golden vine winery. cars land. pixar pier.
- demolish hollywoodland. space is too valuable and is redundant now as we now have buena vista street.
- bugs land should be also go. space is valuable and pixar pier should be looked at as similar to fastasyland.
- eliminate views of outside the park.
- upgrade anywhere cheap remains.
- soarin' needs to revert back to original, far superior, over california film.
- grizzly river run needs wildlife audio-animatronics.
- etc.

I kind of feel part of DCAs problem continues to be perception underscored not just because there are fewer E ticket caliber rides than DL but because there are a few too many elaborate spinners and flat rides. They could probably do a lot to change people's attitudes by simply closing a couple of things like Jumpin' Jellyfish and Silly Symphony Swings and adding one Mystic Manor or Indy scale ride.
 

Rich T

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Also: It doesn't help when Good Dinosaur's main character is possibly the most annoying, whiny protagonist ever to appear in a major animated film. I just didn't like Arlo at all. If they were going for a dino version of Charlie Brown, it didn't work.
 

Rich T

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I kind of feel part of DCAs problem continues to be perception underscored not just because there are fewer E ticket caliber rides than DL but because there are a few too many elaborate spinners and flat rides. They could probably do a lot to change people's attitudes by simply closing a couple of things like Jumpin' Jellyfish and Silly Symphony Swings and adding one Mystic Manor or Indy scale ride.
They should raffle off the opportunity to swing the wrecking ball at Jumpin' Jellyfish.
 

mickEblu

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The thing that Good Dinosaur was missing was "the city". Seeing a family of dino farmers and ranchers was a nice start, but not distinctive enough. If there had been a visit to some dino downtown, then it could have benefited from some trademark Pixar world-building.

Right but that would have been too close to Zootopia. The whole movie just needed to be rethought.
 

Rich T

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I do not want to sort of derail this any further but not sure there would be much value in a new dedicated thread, as it would seem to have already been of much discussion here. But...

What do I think it would take to get California Adventure closer to the caliber of Disneyland? Not in any particular order, and definitely not complete:

- overall, the main issue is the rides (the signature ones included) do not reach the same caliber as those in the park next door and so far apart from each other in walking distance.
- needs dark rides of every size. golden vine winery. cars land. pixar pier.
- demolish hollywoodland. space is too valuable and is redundant now as we now have buena vista street.
- bugs land should be also go. space is valuable and pixar pier should be looked at as similar to fastasyland.
- eliminate views of outside the park.
- upgrade anywhere cheap remains.
- soarin' needs to revert back to original, far superior, over california film.
- grizzly river run needs wildlife audio-animatronics.
- etc.
Cars Land is beautiful and much-loved. It's the best thing about DCA and one of the best things Imagineering has ever built. Cars Land stays. :) Agree with nearly everything else, though. I really thought the Pier had a shot at being DCA's fantasyland with the start of the Classic Mickey makeover, but now that's all out the window.

Grizzly River shouldn't just have AAs... It should have Humphrey Bear and co. AA's. And the entire ride from the top of the lift to unload should be set to the song "Puttin' Papers in the Bag." Try watching a youtube video of the ride while listening to the song: Makes the ride 100% better! :D
 

GiveMeTheMusic

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It's pretty gangster how you quoted yourself...

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