mickEblu
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No matter what I think we can all agree that Elena is the hottest princess thus far. So maybe instead of a ride, how about a meet and greet
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No matter what I think we can all agree that Elena is the hottest princess thus far. So maybe instead of a ride, how about a meet and greet
Disney Irish
Premium Member
I don't think its a bad idea at all, never did. In fact I hope it and other multi-cultural characters and stories from Disney/Pixar make it into the parks as attractions.
Let's hope they have something like this in mind for Pixar Pier 2.0...
Disney Irish
Premium Member
No matter what I think we can all agree that Elena is the hottest princess thus far. So maybe instead of a ride, how about a meet and greet
She already has a M&G and a parade, I posted about it earlier:
https://disneyland.disney.go.com/en...ornia-adventure/princess-elena-grand-arrival/
Yep they sure don't care about their TV IP...
mickEblu
Well-Known Member
She already has a M&G and a parade, I posted about it earlier:
https://disneyland.disney.go.com/en...ornia-adventure/princess-elena-grand-arrival/
Yep they sure don't care about their TV IP...
Hmmm. On second thought let’s go with the ride.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Yeah the M&G and Parade debuted summer of 2016 right after the premiere of the show. From what I can tell, and the fact its stuck around, it seems pretty popular.
TROR
Well-Known Member
From this article: "The July 22 premiere of “Elena of Avalor” ranks as the year’s No. 1 telecast among all kid-targeted TV networks in total viewers (4.5 million), kids 2-11 (2.4 million) and adults 18-49 (1.2 million), per Nielsen’s Live +7 ratings."
Now I suppose 4.5 million views is quite a lot, but how many people saw Coco so far in the US since its Wednesday release? So far, it's made $75 million in the domestic box office. With the average cost of a movie ticket being $8.93, that comes to a total of 8,424,526 tickets sold for Coco. Give or take.
I think it's clear which is more popular.
Now I suppose 4.5 million views is quite a lot, but how many people saw Coco so far in the US since its Wednesday release? So far, it's made $75 million in the domestic box office. With the average cost of a movie ticket being $8.93, that comes to a total of 8,424,526 tickets sold for Coco. Give or take.
I think it's clear which is more popular.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
If you really want to compare, here are the numbers for 6 days later after the premier (same time frame as Coco to date):
https://www.broadwayworld.com/bwwtv...tings-Among-All-TV-Channels-for-Kids-20160728
"For its premiere and encore telecasts to-date, "Elena of Avalor" has reached 12.6 million Total Viewers, including 5.5 million Kids 2-11 and 2.7 million Kids 2-5."
Plus:
"Extensions for the series include Disney Parks & Resorts, which will welcome Princess Elena at WALT DISNEY WORLD Resort this summer and at Disneyland Resort in the fall; print and e-book titles from Disney Publishing; and dolls, role-play products, accessories, home décor and apparel from Disney Store and licensees including Hasbro, Jakks Pacific, Franco Manufacturing and Children's Apparel Network. Walt Disney Records released a seven-track EP featuring songs from the series and Disney Studios will release an episode compilation DVD later this year."
Professortango1
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I wouldn't call that a parade. That's like calling Minnie's Fly Girls a parade. High School Musical, Phinneas and Phurb, and Marvel got similar low budget celebrations. Doesn't mean we'r going to see a Phinneas ride before a Moana ride. One just reaches a broader demographic and generates more money.
Professortango1
Well-Known Member
And 6 days later Coco is up to $160 million world wide in ticket sales alone. Add merchandise and DVD sales in a few months, I think Coco clearly made more money and has more stock in Disney's line up.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Yep you're right, I concede. Elena is just another fly by the night Disney show.
End of story, not worth talking about anymore.
BrianLo
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I'm recently back from seeing Coco. Honestly, DCA would be an amazing place for Coco. Unfortunately the most logical place for that rethink doesn't really have quite enough space - Goofy's Sky School. That section already heavily does the whole Three Kings Day, which is wonderful. A permanent Coco attraction would provide another 'holiday' centric attraction for Disney to lean into the whole DCA is our halloween park thing.
A real miss opportunity now with this misguided project.
I mean, maybe in another life they could get creative and use space properly and fit a two storey dark ride in there.
A real miss opportunity now with this misguided project.
I mean, maybe in another life they could get creative and use space properly and fit a two storey dark ride in there.
mickEblu
Well-Known Member
I’ve heard that there is a lot of space behind Screamin. Not quite sure where as I thought it butts up pretty snuggly against Katella. If it’s true I could see the entry to the ride being where Goofys sky school is now.
Ismael Flores
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Yes that corner would be great for a nice immersive ride based on coco.
I also think they can expand the goody akyscool plot by just re-aranging a couple things. Can you believe that a few years back i found out that the whole western corner of DCA Paradise Park area could actually fit an area the size of New Orleans square including the first show building of pirates and blue bayou restauarant. They could have even gone vertical and created the Berm that was desperately needed there. It would have been the perfect place to have had an attraction and just a couple small shops in the bottom floor with queue for the attraction using the area taken up by the hot dog castle plot area. All of goofy sky scool including the section of land now used for the gazebo and face painting area as part show building for the dark ride as well as the eatery that has the constant menu change near the restrooms. The second floor could have housed an area similar to club 33 but as a sit down eatery open to the general public. It could have even had a corridor connecting it to the GCH expansion tower. It would have been the perfectly themed seaside village area for DCA and could have integrated the jumping jellyfish area, the seaside brewery area and part of the out of place sandy area next zephyr.
Might be a little late for that unless they demolish the nice paradise garden area but I think there is still room to play with.
Tear out the old McDonald’s structure and goofy sky scool and everything on the north side including corn dog castle. Anything north of the main entrance into the garden area will now be showroom for a darkride as well as the bathrooms and plot where the McDonald’s structure was. This would create a pretty large “L”shape showroom with queue closest to seaside souvenirs.
Remove seaside brewery and jumping jellyfish as well And use that area to create a new two story eatery themed like those eateries found along boardwalks here in California. Lots of wood with an open deck facing the water on second floor. Use this to sell simple things like fish and chips and the occasional food festival menus.
Now for the Pier, everytime I go and stand in the queue for the silly symphony swings I notice what a waste of space between the swings and the western helix and the funwheel. There is a large chunk of water area there that serves no purpose and now they have an ugly tarp wrapped around the western helix on Screamin.
I believe the recirculating intake and outlaw for the bay are near there so eliminating all the water might not work. I think they should consider building an above water boardwalk that connects the silly symphony swings area with the west side of the funwheel. On top of this area place a couple of nicely themed vending booths or relocate the seaside brewery there and add a nice area to sit and drink your beer including the bottom floor of silly symphony area for sitting. They can also build a nice themed structure that has entrances in opposite ends and fill it with merchandise now sold in the shops near the boardwalk games. If they did that then those stores can be gutted and the structure expanded forward to create a queue for a new ride the has a showroom behind Screamin. This would add another enclosed ride that doesn’t have to shut down during WOC.
There are other areas of the bay that can also be reclaimed including the water behind the projectors next to the funwheel. It’s a smaller area but can be used for vendors or much needed sitting area on the pier which has become a bit congested in areas especially right in front of you story mania which has a vendor that sells chimichangas and corn that could be relocated there next to the hotdog stand.
WDI and TDA just really need to sit down and commit to properly expand the area around the bay because it really lacks and is low on proper attractions especially when most things shut down for WOC and leave people with very little to do
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ColinDLR
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I also think that the Goofy's Sky School area is highly unused, and an immersive attraction themed around Coco, or even an original Disney property would be great. Something that I think would be great is yet another retheme of Sky School. You could easily use the queue area, station, patio between the queue and Corn Dog Castle, and the Corn Dog Castle itself. You could maybe even use the little gift store next to the CDC. You could use this as a station for the New Enclosed Goofy's Sky School. The track could be extended in both directions towards Corn Dog Castle coming out of the coaster structure. The first part could be a dark ride and then go up into the existing roller coaster portion. The roller coaster could be themed very well while being dark. Those sharp turns could be very awesome with themed elements, Space Mountain style. There could be an amazing soundtrack and those small drops towards the end could feel much bigger with a fast soundtrack and darkness. As you hit the current brake run, you would proceed forward without turning into the current station. There would be an unload station that would exit right out on to the main path. It would be Pixar themed and be a great fit to the current area, and fix it up aesthetically a little bit.
Professortango1
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Never said Elena was a fly by night Disney show. I just said Coco is more popular and more mature in tone and therefore more likely to receive an attraction. That's why we're seeing a Coco attraction rumored and not an Elena one.
Ismael Flores
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oh please no, the storyline is almost the same as the subs. i rather have ratatouille in that corner since at least it would be near an eatery and the ride is all about food
Ismael Flores
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There is the original large parade building right behind Screamin. not sure what it is used for now. They used to use it when DCA had two parades in storage. Goofy sky scool is at the opposite end of the land though no where near screamin.
I wonder if they could reclaim a few of the lanes for the old tram route behind screamin also. There are a couple car lanes directly under the power lines but there are also one or two car lanes next to those against the parks boundery
Hatbox Ghostbuster
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All this talk of a Coco ride...makes me think...is it the new P&R model to base an attraction off every single movie that comes out? Surely that's not a sustainable model. Why can't some films just remain as films? I highly doubt we will see a Coco-verse starting here...let's just let it be.
Granted, throwing a nod to it in the Mexico Pavilion at Epcot does make sense. But in DLR, it just stinks like a ploy to hock more merch, which is already in the stores.
Granted, throwing a nod to it in the Mexico Pavilion at Epcot does make sense. But in DLR, it just stinks like a ploy to hock more merch, which is already in the stores.
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dweezil78
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Again, not trying to make the case for an Elena ride -- but I think you are overlooking the fact that these shows are played around the clock to kids, have faithful advertisers who pay to surround them (both on TV & VOD), home video releases, and an insane amount of merchandise/licensing deals. Not to mention, the shows are far cheaper to produce.
Coco cost an estimated $175 - $200 million to produce + marketing budget. Do the math.
Elena is most definitely making a lot of money for the company and will continue to do so long after the buzz for Coco has died...
https://www.shopdisney.com/movies-s...ptures=&redirect=true&rsize=1116&rquery=elena
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