News Paradise Pier Becoming Pixar Pier

[Rich T]

They could always replace Goofy's Sky School with Crush's Coaster from WDS. It's the same ride but enclosed. Heavens knows we just don't have enough Nemo represented.

Wait, wait, no. It's not the same ride at all. Crush is a spinning coaster with a completely different layout full of swooping banked turns. It's not a Wild Mouse-- Not even the spinning kind of Wild Mouse at DAK.

Sorry. I know you probably mean, "for all practical purposes, it's the same kind of experience." I'm just a coaster geek, y'know, the kind who gets annoyed when people call a Wild Mouse a Mad Mouse (because, you know, they're different! )

 

[Disney Irish]

Never said Elena was a fly by night Disney show. I just said Coco is more popular and more mature in tone and therefore more likely to receive an attraction. That's why we're seeing a Coco attraction rumored and not an Elena one.

There is no current rumor for Coco in DCA, PERIOD. I don't know how many times this has to be said, this discussion was never whether Coco would EVER get an attraction in ANY Disney Park in the world. It has ALWAYS been about whether Coco would come to DCA, at this point is NOT happening or even rumored. Sure, there is some rumblings of a rumor about Epcot, but that is a different park and a different forum even.

At this point this conversation should be its own thread since everyone seems to want to discuss it.

 

[TROR]

There is no current rumor for Coco in DCA, PERIOD. I don't know how many times this has to be said, this discussion was never whether Coco would EVER get an attraction in ANY Disney Park in the world. It has ALWAYS been about whether Coco would come to DCA, at this point is NOT happening or even rumored. Sure, there is some rumblings of a rumor about Epcot, but that is a different park and a different forum even.

At this point this conversation should be its own thread since everyone seems to want to discuss it.

I thought the conversation was saying which would be more likely to get an attraction at DCA first: Elena or Coco. You said Elena and everyone else says Coco. No one saying either is getting an attraction at DCA, just if it were to happen, it'd be Coco.

 

[Disney Irish]

I thought the conversation was saying which would be more likely to get an attraction at DCA first: Elena or Coco. You said Elena and everyone else says Coco. No one saying either is getting an attraction at DCA, just if it were to happen, it'd be Coco.

My recent reply was in response to the continued bringing up of rumors of a Coco attraction. There is none for DCA at all. There is some for Epcot but that is another park over 3000 miles away and nothing to do with DCA.

I made the silly comment about my thoughts of Coco coming to DCA, stating that in my opinion that Elena would get one before Coco. And its taken off from there.

At this point I don't really care if either gets an attraction.

 

[TROR]

My recent reply was in response to the continued bringing up of rumors of a Coco attraction. There is none for DCA at all. There is some for Epcot but that is another park over 3000 miles away and nothing to do with DCA.

I made the silly comment about my thoughts of Coco coming to DCA, stating that in my opinion that Elena would get one before Coco. And its taken off from there.

At this point I don't really care if either gets an attraction.

So was your comment, then, supposed to be like an exaggeration? Like, Coco is so unlikely to come to DCA that even this far less popular and irrelevant material is more likely to come before it?

 

[Disney Irish]

So was your comment, then, supposed to be like an exaggeration? Like, Coco is so unlikely to come to DCA that even this far less popular and irrelevant material is more likely to come before it?

I've already explained my thoughts, I don't need to rehash them again. And you have no proof of anything being less popular or irrelevant other than your own opinion.

You aren't even wanting IPs or anything that is non-CA in DCA. So I don't even know why you even care about this discussion other than to stir the pot.

 

[TROR]

You aren't even wanting IPs or anything that is non-CA in DCA. So I don't even know why you even care about this discussion other than to stir the pot.

You sure? I'm a huge defender of Cars Land. IPs aren't my problem, it's when they have no connection to California, like the MCU. Coco has the Mexican culture that California shares some of so I wouldn't mind it in Paradise Pier next to the restaurants.

 

[Disney Irish]

You sure? I'm a huge defender of Cars Land. IPs aren't my problem, it's when they have no connection to California, like the MCU. Coco has the Mexican culture that California shares some of so I wouldn't mind it in Paradise Pier next to the restaurants.

You've been a huge defender of Car Land not Cars Land lol....

Also the story of Coco is set in Mexico itself (which is why the premier was in Mexico not the US) so no real connection to California other than the culture. So if it went in it would move it even farther away from California theming.

 

[Curious Constance]

All this talk of a Coco ride...makes me think...is it the new P&R model to base an attraction off every single movie that comes out? Surely that's not a sustainable model. Why can't some films just remain as films? I highly doubt we will see a Coco-verse starting here...let's just let it be.

Granted, throwing a nod to it in the Mexico Pavilion at Epcot does make sense. But in DLR, it just stinks like a ploy to hock more merch, which is already in the stores.

Thank you. Every time a new movie comes out, people start planning where to put a ride based on it. If Disney is insistent on making all new attractions based solely on movies, they should at least keep it within tried and true IP. I don't think one successful movie is enough. And I can almost guarantee that the merchandise from this movie will be in the clearance bins come January. Just like most all other movie merchandise. Some IP just makes a lot more sense to base attractions on. If Coco is still popular in 5-10 years, still driving interest and merchandise sales, then we can talk. Until then, no. Otherwise, the parks will soon start seeming just as tired and unwanted as the junk in those clearance bins.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

Thank you. Every time a new movie comes out, people start planning where to put a ride based on it. If Disney is insistent on making all new attractions based solely on movies, they should at least keep it within tried and true IP. I don't think one successful movie is enough. And I can almost guarantee that the merchandise from this movie will be in the clearance bins come January. Just like most all other movie merchandise. Some IP just makes a lot more sense to base attractions on. If Coco is still popular in 5-10 years, still driving interest and merchandise sales, then we can talk. Until then, no. Otherwise, the parks will soon start seeming just as tired and unwanted as the junk in those clearance bins.

^ THIS.

 

[TROR]

You've been a huge defender of Car Land not Cars Land lol....

Carland would've been better, but I still defend Cars Land.

Also the story of Coco is set in Mexico itself (which is why the premier was in Mexico not the US) so no real connection to California other than the culture. So if it went in it would move it even farther away from California theming.

Lands need to be themed to California, but attractions only need to fit the land. Hence why Soarin Around the World, while inferior, still fits into the California theme since the theme of Grizzly Airfield is aviation which ties back to California. If we want to say Paradise Pier is set in a Southern California town like Santa Monica, San Diego, or Santa Cruz, the connection between Mexico and California is as clear as the names of those cities. While you say there's no other real connection between California and Mexican culture, it seems more as if you don't understand just how strong of a connection that is on its own. While a Mexico City themed land would make no sense, an attraction representing the cultures California and Mexico share would be a perfect fit.

 

[dweezil78]

I don't think one successful movie is enough.

Try telling that to all the Fantasyland rides!!! While I hear what you are saying, I do think there is something to be said about letting something stand alone as a singular story without the need to go sequel/franchise crazy. But yeah, we don't need a freaking ride for every single thing the company pops out. Which thankfully has not been the case, otherwise we'd all be suffering through Mission to Mars Needs Moms.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

Try telling that to all the Fantasyland rides!!! While I hear what you are saying, I do think there is something to be said about letting something stand alone as a singular story without the need to go sequel/franchise crazy. But yeah, we don't need a freaking ride for every single thing the company pops out. Which thankfully has not been the case, otherwise we'd all be suffering through Mission to Mars Needs Moms.

....oh, you haven't heard about the Astro Orbiter overlay coming???

 

[Curious Constance]

Try telling that to all the Fantasyland rides!!! While I hear what you are saying, I do think there is something to be said about letting something stand alone as a singular story without the need to go sequel/franchise crazy. But yeah, we don't need a freaking ride for every single thing the company pops out. Which thankfully has not been the case, otherwise we'd all be suffering through Mission to Mars Needs Moms.

I'm not talking sequels. Some movies, even when it's just a singular movie, just last a long time and become popular and timeless (like Fantasyland IP). We have no way of knowing if Coco is one of these times, or will be forgotten in a years time. I'm saying even if another movie is never made, Coco shouldn't be in any parks unless it's still liked and relevant years from now.

 

[Disney Irish]

Carland would've been better, but I still defend Cars Land.


Lands need to be themed to California, but attractions only need to fit the land. Hence why Soarin Around the World, while inferior, still fits into the California theme since the theme of Grizzly Airfield is aviation which ties back to California. If we want to say Paradise Pier is set in a Southern California town like Santa Monica, San Diego, or Santa Cruz, the connection between Mexico and California is as clear as the names of those cities. While you say there's no other real connection between California and Mexican culture, it seems more as if you don't understand just how strong of a connection that is on its own. While a Mexico City themed land would make no sense, an attraction representing the cultures California and Mexico share would be a perfect fit.

I'm not even going to dignify any of that with an answer since you don't know me at all or how I'm tied directly to the Mexican culture. Which is the whole reason why I've been saying the parks need more diversity.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

Where was the "let's turn our movies into attractions" mentality when Aladdin, Lion King, and Beauty and the Beast were released????

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

I'm not even going to dignify any of that with an answer since you don't know me at all or how I'm tied directly to the Mexican culture.

I thought you were Irish

 

[dweezil78]

I'm not talking sequels. Some movies, even when it's just a singular movie, just last a long time and become popular and timeless (like Fantasyland IP). We have no way of knowing if Coco is one of these times, or will be forgotten in a years time. I'm saying even if another movie is never made, Coco shouldn't be in any parks unless it's still liked and relevant years from now.

Yeah, with you all the way. Definitely firmly believe things need to marinate for a bit before they permanently (or at least semi-permanently in today's world) take residence in the parks.

 

[Disney Irish]

I thought you were Irish

I never said I was only Irish. Nor did I say how I was tied.

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

I'm half Italian and almost another half French, but you'd never guess that by my last name.

 

[dweezil78]

Where was the "let's turn our movies into attractions" mentality when Aladdin, Lion King, and Beauty and the Beast were released????

Ummmmm.... how dare you not acknowledge this crowning achievement of WDI: