DVCakaCarlF
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The other side of the equation: liabilities and obligations.
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On layoffs, very bad attendance, and Iger's legacy being one of disgrace
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DVCakaCarlF
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Half of Orlando tourists had a Brazilian or English accent...so yeah.
DMMDMM
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I doubt that park hopper opens for awhile. Increases the interaction on busses and entrances.
champdisney
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International Drive and the shopping outlets must be a ghost town with the international tourists.
CastAStone
5th gate? Just build a new resort Bob.
If I could predict stock price movements I would be rich. I am pretty good at predicting business health but stock prices disconnect from that pretty regularly.
DVCakaCarlF
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I’d bet Epcot would kill it, if park hopping was allowed.
CastAStone
5th gate? Just build a new resort Bob.
Seems like they could offer it day of for $15 subject to capacity.
Iger needs to put his positive spin hat during the 8/4 call with Wall Street. Investors and WS need to hear a turnaround plan news to help boost the stock price. Part of the plan could be a leaner meaner more efficient run company.
Mouse Trap
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Live Action has taken a massive hit for sure, but productions have been restarting across the world... USA included.
While not on the Burbank lot, Disney has kicked back on quite a few productions.
Pinewood and Blackhall have multiple huge productions set (should) to start early next month.
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Lirael
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And that impacts more than people imagine. I mean, a american tourist going to Orlando might go and buy park stuff but he's not going to go nuts anywhere else. A brazilian tourist will, however, walk through those Outlets, Walmart and Best Buy like they're the second coming of Jesus Christ*. Meaning parts of Orlando that aren't the parks itself will suffer more from a lack of international tourists.
*or at least they did when the dollar wasn't worth 6 times the BR currency, so even if the USA reopened, say, tomorrow, shopping from Brazilians would still take a dive regardless.
SpaceMountain77
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Since the 2017 D23, as awful as this may sound, I have been secretly hoping that something would happen to pause the course and right the direction of the parks and resorts. Admittedly, prior to the pandemic, I thought a few sinkholes, under certain attractions and resorts, would be a reasonable solution. 
Here is a brief list of my gripes:
1. The thematic direction for Epcot is wrong. A wishing tree, really? Dreamers Point, when Walt's utopian vision was never realized? Cosmic Rewind, an attraction where the "fantastical becomes real," even though Future World pavilions have been inspired by emerging technology and human achievement.
2. Innoventions West is being razed, so that meet and greets and digital offerings can be offered in a pavilion that previously housed two attractions and a quick service location. Personally, if an IP-tie in was needed, Wonders of Life could have easily been reimagined with Baymax and the emotions from Inside Out.
3. Mickey & Minnie's Runaway Railway resulted in the elimination of a classic attraction that could have been updated (e.g., Aliens to Guardians of the Galaxy).
4. The addition of Star Wars Land resulted in the elimination of a quintessential holiday tradition, the Osborne Family Spectacle of Dancing Lights.
5. Resorts are becoming increasingly uninspired. Gran Destino belongs on the Vegas strip and the Riviera is a Marriott decorated with Disney Art. Reflections, a Disney Hyatt Place Resort was a modern hotel sandwiched between a pioneer settlement and a late 1800s National Parks lodge. Moreover, there is a perfectly underused space at Disney's Port Orleans French Quarter Resort that could easily and fittingly become Tiana's Place, however, Reflections was to get the Princess & the Frog themed restaurant.
Personally, I delight in reading these posts because I sincerely hope that the economic challenges faced by the company result in a thoughtful reevaluation of the parks and resorts.
Walt is often quoted as saying "You may not realize it when it happens, but a kick in the teeth may be the best thing in the world for you." To me, the current situation may be necessary to save what the parks had been, particularly Epcot.
Here is a brief list of my gripes:
1. The thematic direction for Epcot is wrong. A wishing tree, really? Dreamers Point, when Walt's utopian vision was never realized? Cosmic Rewind, an attraction where the "fantastical becomes real," even though Future World pavilions have been inspired by emerging technology and human achievement.
2. Innoventions West is being razed, so that meet and greets and digital offerings can be offered in a pavilion that previously housed two attractions and a quick service location. Personally, if an IP-tie in was needed, Wonders of Life could have easily been reimagined with Baymax and the emotions from Inside Out.
3. Mickey & Minnie's Runaway Railway resulted in the elimination of a classic attraction that could have been updated (e.g., Aliens to Guardians of the Galaxy).
4. The addition of Star Wars Land resulted in the elimination of a quintessential holiday tradition, the Osborne Family Spectacle of Dancing Lights.
5. Resorts are becoming increasingly uninspired. Gran Destino belongs on the Vegas strip and the Riviera is a Marriott decorated with Disney Art. Reflections, a Disney Hyatt Place Resort was a modern hotel sandwiched between a pioneer settlement and a late 1800s National Parks lodge. Moreover, there is a perfectly underused space at Disney's Port Orleans French Quarter Resort that could easily and fittingly become Tiana's Place, however, Reflections was to get the Princess & the Frog themed restaurant.
Personally, I delight in reading these posts because I sincerely hope that the economic challenges faced by the company result in a thoughtful reevaluation of the parks and resorts.
Walt is often quoted as saying "You may not realize it when it happens, but a kick in the teeth may be the best thing in the world for you." To me, the current situation may be necessary to save what the parks had been, particularly Epcot.
britdaw
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Well this isn't my post, but here are my thoughts....
Yes, I totally agree with the reservation system and one park limits being big "cons" for planning a Disney trip right now.
Another big thing is that people do not want to have to wear masks in the Florida heat. It's hard enough for some to breathe in the masks, and there is just no appeal about having to struggle to breathe due to a mask AND how hot it is outside.
Another thing that I've heard multiple complain about is that Disney has cut so many things (entertainment, dining venues, etc.), yet the prices are still high as a kite. It's not fair to expect people to pay normal prices when the Disney experience is so limited right now.
asianway
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Be a shame if it dissolves
So the potential amount of maximum guests in a park is known in advance.
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Preach.
BlackCauldron
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I'd imagine it's a combination of many factors:
1. Many people do not want to travel at all right now.
2. Of those that would travel, there's many that don't want to travel to a hot spot. Especially with children.
3. Many simply can't travel (foreign visitors, those that need quarantine either on arrival, return, or both)
4. Disney's cuts are non-starters for many people. No entertainment, no fireworks/parades, no character interactions or character meals, one park per day, etc.
5. The masks.
6. Costs are all at rack rate, perceived value is down. Let's be honest - the discounts, deals, free dining, all pull in huge amounts of bookings.
The reliance on DVC and local AP holders is strong right now.
It’s not quarantine- flights are grounded, effectively banning us leaving and we are banned from entering the US.
Consensus over here is that nothing will change hugely this year.
WDW Pro
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Park Hopper being out was so they could get park numbers going forward. That's not working out, but they still haven't discussed modifying it to my knowledge.
Please list the productions occurring.