Politics OC Register - Disneyland and Universal Studios ask Newsom not to finalize theme park reopening plans just yet

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Mac Tonight

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No kidding.

Especially because it's clearly apparent no one had any idea how to deal with something like this. Not a big, rich liberal state like California or New York. Not a small, conservative state like Wyoming or Idaho. Not the Obama administration, nor the Trump administration. Not big cities like LA or New York, or small cities like Anaheim or Fresno. No D's, no R's, not even the New Socialists.

It would just be helpful if we could all admit that no one in the last 50 years had any plan for this. No one. Ever.
I think that should be the tagline: “2020... We just don’t know.
 

AL2000HS

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Imo I think he's trying to get travelers from out of state to not come here. Theme parks will be safest no doubt but it'll encourage out of state people to come here if they do open and potentially spike us again.
 

el_super

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With how crazy 2020 has been I expect that if there aren't any reopening plans, Disney will do a "HK DL" and purposely leak that they've had discussions with other states related to theme parks to try to get a better deal with the guidelines.

It will do absolutely no good. Disney has expended all their political capital at this point. Without the public on their side, they will end up risking their brand image if they keep pushing against safety measures that are, still fairly popular.
 

Mac Tonight

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Hot off the presses... (sorry, @Darkbeer1 )

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TP2000

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A nice reminder that the Anaheim Convention Center is still closed, and convention centers are even more unknown if and when they may ever be able to reopen in California.

The Anaheim Convention Center is the largest center on the West Coast and hosts some of America's largest conventions. At 1.6 Million square feet, it is the 4th largest convention center in America, behind Chicago, Las Vegas and Orlando.

Needless to say, it generated a huge amount of hotel and dining business for the Anaheim Resort District. The giant convention hotels next door, the Hilton, etc. remain closed right now.
 

Dr. Hans Reinhardt

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*puts on tinfoil hat*

I'm calling BS on Disney. If Disneyland and the amusement park associations are so sure that the government has it wrong then be transparent and show Californians which sections of the proposed guidelines they disagree with. I dare them. My guess is that the new rules aren't as unreasonable as their performative public statements claim they are.

*removes tinfoil hat*
 
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el_super

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*puts on tinfoil hat*

I'm calling BS on Disney. If Disneyland and the amusement park associations so sure that the government has it wrong then be transparent and show Californians which sections of the proposed guidelines they disagree with. I dare them. My guess is that the new rules aren't as unreasonable as their performative public statements claim they are.

*removes tinfoil hat*

Probably. Disney got preferential treatment when it came to creating guidelines, and then complained about them every step of the way. They made a fuss that having them released was of paramount importance, and then begged the governor not to release them when he called their bluff.

Disney is not an innocent victim here.
 

TP2000

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*puts on tinfoil hat*

I'm calling BS on Disney. If Disneyland and the amusement park associations so sure that the government has it wrong then be transparent and show Californians which sections of the proposed guidelines they disagree with. I dare them. My guess is that the new rules aren't as unreasonable as their performative public statements claim they are.

*removes tinfoil hat*

I don't think you need a tinfoil hat for that question. I'd love to know that too!

What was it about the guidelines they got to see last Thursday that caused them to freak out? Was it a ban on allowing customers from more than 100 miles away? Was it an extremely low capacity requirement like 10% to 15%? Was it a mandate that a park can't open until its county gets to the nearly impossible Yellow Tier? Maybe customers had to prove they live in a county that was Orange Tier or lower, thus excluding the 10 million people that live in LA County that will be in the Purple Tier for quite awhile?

It wouldn't surprise me at all if a week from now we still have no guidelines, that the theme park industry group goes public with their criticism of the specific guidelines. I'd love to know what they are so worried about.
 
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lazyboy97o

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Probably. Disney got preferential treatment when it came to creating guidelines, and then complained about them every step of the way. They made a fuss that having them released was of paramount importance, and then begged the governor not to release them when he called their bluff.

Disney is not an innocent victim here.
Your forgetting the preferential treatment at the start of restrictions when amusement parks were exempt and now the resumption of complaining that guidelines have not been released right after begging for them not to be released.
 

TP2000

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Your forgetting the preferential treatment at the start of restrictions when amusement parks were exempt and now the resumption of complaining that guidelines have not been released right after begging for them not to be released.

They finally got to see the final draft of the guidelines last Thursday morning, and it completely freaked them out. By that afternoon the industry trade group released a media statement saying the guidelines were unworkable for their industry and they needed to have further discussions with Sacramento bureaucrats before they were released. They clearly needed looser guidelines, or major changes made.

What was it about the guidelines that freaked them out so badly? Inquiring minds want to know!
 

planodisney

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*puts on tinfoil hat*

I'm calling BS on Disney. If Disneyland and the amusement park associations so sure that the government has it wrong then be transparent and show Californians which sections of the proposed guidelines they disagree with. I dare them. My guess is that the new rules aren't as unreasonable as their performative public statements claim they are.

*removes tinfoil hat*
No reason for tinfoil hat Dr. Hans. Your opinion is always respected. I think Disney is perpetually up to their eyeballs in B.S.
In this whole argument, I’m just not understanding the continued theory being used by the “keep theme parks closed because it’s to dangerous and we don’t know what would happen crowd,” when we have an absolute perfect trial run that we can base our facts off of in WDW and USO. It has worked and Disney has proven they can manage the situation.
Is the argument that employees in California are just dumber than the employees in Florida and couldn’t follow the protocols?
What’s the argument?
 

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