Nothing coming in 2010?

[RiversideBunny]

It's been rather much agreed on other threads that 'Honey I Shrunk the Audience' (HISTA) needs to be replaced. It has served its purpose but now it's old and boring. Many people don't relate to the original moive either.

That place has a lot of possibilities. It's just a big theatre.
Any clever 3D presentation would be good.

 

[yeti]

2006 was great, 2007 was decent, 2008 was meh, 2009 sucked, and 2010 will manage to be even worse.

I do, however, sense a turnaround. 2011 will be good and 2012 will be great, so hopefully each consecutive year will start to become better rather than worse than the year before for the next decade (I predict it will...)

Renaissance, je t'aime...

 

[RSoxNo1]

Isn't that dumbing down the park? The attraction will bring in money and people- most money- so it should automatically come back?

If they built a roller coaster inside SSE because it would bring crowds- and more importantly money- into Epcot does that make it right? I'm sure a roller coaster would be more popular than SSE to the average guest :lol::lookaroun

Sure, it's an extreme example, but I'm trying my best to proove a point.

Yea but gutting an existing structure to build an incredibly out of this world coaster for money would cost more than swapping out a film. And maybe you didnt notice but this would be a temporary engagement like it is at DLR. And like I said, you are one in a few.

This was actually considered. As part of Project Gemini, the considered an attraction called "Time Racers" that was to be a roller coaster inside Spaceship Earth.

If EO means the removal of HISTA and possibly lead to an Imagination overhaul, then I'm for it. If HISTA would just return, eh.

The positive side of adding Captain EO is that it would add something desireable (to some, not all) at the Imagination pavilion. The negative side, is that it would be an excuse to put off a refurbishment for Journey Into Imagination.

Say for example (this is speculative, and has no basis in fact) that Disney plans on closing Journey Into Imagination in October of this year for a year long refurbishment that would completely re-do the ride and pavilion. If they decide in June that they want to add Captain EO, that could presumably push back the Journey Into Imagination refurbishment.

What I would prefer is that Captain EO is added, and once that opens up they begin the process of gutting the existing attraction space. Captain has it's limited run before it too is removed, and the theater space is used to lengthen the attraction.

 

[Mouse Detective]

Besides, having that disgusting excuse for a human being infesting Epcot would be an absolute tragedy.

Tell us how you really feel about him!

 

[the-reason14]

EO is not coming to WDW, wasting time talking about it.

Besides, having that disgusting excuse for a human being infesting Epcot would be an absolute tragedy.

Please. I hope disney does decide to do it but I highly doubt they will. And I hope I get to make it down to DL to see it while its there.

WDW should have a ride and show for everyone, if one show is not your cup of tea then dont go. That simple. I can think of a countless number of other hosts on disney attractions that dont deserve to be there for whatever reason and yet they are.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

As I've said before, explain how EO fits with the dedication plaque outside that is so rigorously applied to Nemo and I'll be all for it.

Otherwise, it's another example of a park dedicated to future's fan base living in the past.

Well you got me there. :lol:

Honestly, it wouldn't really upset me to have EO come back, but it is not moving forward, which is kind of the central theme of Epcot.

I do have to agree with Scar on this one. TDO's idea of temporary seems to be about a decade. I'm not sure I would trust a "temporary" return.

:snore:


It doesn't. It once did.


It would be great in the park NOW and for a limited time, seeing it's current relevance. It's also great because, as said, it would draw a bigger audience, when compared to HISTA, and the fact that it's bringing a differentiated demographic into the park.

Simple, really.

But, if it were to overstay it's welcome, it would be a problem, yes.

 

[jakeman]

seeing it's current relevance.

Like Nemo.

It's also great because, as said, it would draw a bigger audience, when compared to HISTA,

Like Nemo.

and the fact that it's bringing a differentiated demographic into the park.

Like Nemo.

Simple, really.

Sure is! :wave:

But, if it were to overstay it's welcome, it would be a problem, yes.

See wand, hat, Mickey's Birthday/Star/Toowntown Fair Land.

Again, show me where it fits the plaque. That's all I ask.

 

[the-reason14]

You mean like Mickey's Birthdayland, or the Wand, or the Hat?

Theme of Epcot aside, Walt Disney World doesn't have the best track record with things being temporary.

More than likely we are talking about EO replacing Honey, I Shrunk the Audience, not a limited engagement based on the past history of temporary things at WDW, and I find that unacceptable.

Yea, but this is a film! How hard would it be to replace a film and replace it 5 months later. This isnt a structure that was built or a land. its a film! How hard would it be to change it out.

 

[puntagordabob]

Wishes- although not your favorite- set the bar for what should be expected at Disney parks fireworks-wise.

And in my opinion Remember Dreams Come True from Disneyland raised that bar quite a bit more!

 

[krankenstein]

And in my opinion Remember Dreams Come True from Disneyland raised that bar quite a bit more!

Remember punched Wishes in its face and sent it home crying to its Mama.

 

[SirGoofy]

Remember punched Wishes in its face and sent it home crying to its Mama.

And then it punched it's Mama in the face.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Like Nemo.

Like Nemo.

Like Nemo.

Sure is! :wave:

See wand, hat, Mickey's Birthday/Star/Toowntown Fair Land.

Again, show me where it fits the plaque. That's all I ask.

Problem. Nemo isn't Futuristic. :wave:


At least EO is.

It fit the plaque at one point, I see no problem with it. I'd have no problem with Nemo, too....If it actually fit the Futuristic and techy theme of the land.


Good God, explaining that over and over again is tiresome!

 

[SirGoofy]

It fit the plaque at one point, I see no problem with it. I'd have no problem with Nemo, too....If it actually fit the Futuristic and techy theme of the land.

So I guess Nemo fitting the plaque to entertain, inform, and inspire doesn't mean anything.

Please.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

So I guess Nemo fitting the plaque to entertain, inform, and inspire doesn't mean anything.

Please.

Oh, no....Never said that. He just misses the overall theme of the land he's in by about 5000 miles.

Kind of like the spinner in Adventureland. Entertains. Eats up guests. Does it fit?


Don't lie.... :wave:

EDIT: No idea how Nemo inspires. Save for buying plush. Inform is a stretch, too, duuuuuuude.

 

[puntagordabob]

If DL can get it, why cant we? Hopefully I'm wrong though.

While I am not FOR or AGAINST EO.... this point you make is a good one. I am SICK and TIRED of us loyal WDW guests being treated to a multitude of excuses as to WHY Disneyland needs new shows, new parades, new attractions, etc...while meanwhile at WDW our "Guests" are all different and do not want all that. That is JUST an excuse to LOWER the Bar for Guest enjoyment to the lowest denominator.

As for the New being Old: HOW much longer can they call the Tiki Room: Under NEW Management? 1998 to 2010, 12 years already? I imagine Walt up in Heaven curses every time that show is run...changing things is one thing, but to insult those who loved The Tropical Serenade/Walt Disney's Enchanted Tiki Room really is disturbing.

Thats a nice and relatively simple idea for the 40th....Bring back The Tropical Serenade (Using the shortened version from Disneyland which is very successful there. Will EVERYONE love it?Probably not, but its a WIN-WIN really for Disney, the dedicated Fans, and to even the casual guests...the show is beloved by so many, and yet would be new to the newer generations....

 

[Studios Fan]

I would like to see something new in each of the parks for the 40th. Will it happen? Probably not. DHS will have ST2.0, MK will have FLE, but there isn't any reason they couldn't do some small things like the Imagination re-do in Epcot and put in something at DAK.

 

[jakeman]

Problem. Nemo isn't Futuristic. :wave:

At least EO is.

So by this logic, Buzz Lightyear in the space pavilionwould be okay right?

It fit the plaque at one point, I see no problem with it.

You realize that statements like this only support my assertion that Ecopt fans live in the past right?

There is nothing plausible about the future that Captain EO portrays. So again by this logic a Spaceballs attraction would fit also.

Good God, explaining that over and over again is tiresome!

You're not explaining anything other than fan boy hypocrisy.

Nothing about EO fits the plaque.

It celebrates no human achievment.

It is no wonder of enterprise.

It does not present any realistic concepts of the future.

It does entertain. (I'll give you that)

It does not inspire.

It does not inform.

It does not demonstrate in any way man's ability to shape the world.

 

[the-reason14]

So by this logic, Buzz Lightyear in the space pavilionwould be okay right?

You realize that statements like this only support my assertion that Ecopt fans live in the past right?

There is nothing plausible about the future that Captain EO portrays. So again by this logic a Spaceballs attraction would fit also.

You're not explaining anything other than fan boy hypocrisy.

Nothing about EO fits the plaque.

It celebrates no human achievment.

It is no wonder of enterprise.

It does not present any realistic concepts of the future.

It does entertain. (I'll give you that)

It does not inspire.

It does not inform.

It does not demonstrate in any way man's ability to shape the world.

And what purpose does HISTA have? Is it there to collect dust?

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

So by this logic, Buzz Lightyear in the space pavilionwould be okay right?
]If it were the whole thing, like Nemo...No.

If M:S were a larger pavilion and had multiple attractions, and Buzz was one of them, and was entertaining and informing, sure.

You realize that statements like this only support my assertion that Ecopt fans live in the past right?You are nit picking. This has relevance now. It's a good move to draw people in. If MJ were still alive, and they wanted to do this, I'd be against it. It has high nostalgic value, yes, but that's not the main reason for it's return.

There is nothing plausible about the future that Captain EO portrays. So again by this logic a Spaceballs attraction would fit also.
It's in the Imagination Pavilion. I think that's fit enough.

You're not explaining anything other than fan boy hypocrisy.

Nothing about EO fits the plaque.
You take my plaque comments to seriously for your own good, Jake! :lol: The Plaque is very important, don't get me wrong, but other aspects, like theme help.
It celebrates no human achievment.
Well, with it's return, it's celebrating MJ.
It is no wonder of enterprise.
George Lucas would like to argue that.
It does not present any realistic concepts of the future.
It's part of JII. The overall theme of the pavilion and the show itself covers that.

By the way...Does HISTA do that?
It does entertain. (I'll give you that)

It does not inspire.

It does not inform.
It does not demonstrate in any way man's ability to shape the world.It show's a futuristic fantasy about a man who does. We Are Here To Change The World, and all?

:wave:

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

And what purpose does HISTA have? Is it there to collect dust?

Thank you. :lol:


At least this would draw in crowds and money, seeing that that's Disney's first objective anyway.