NextGen / FP+ / Magic Band. The official truth starts to appear

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
No additional cost...but that doesn't address the possibility (likelihood?) that higher end resorts or packages would get more/better options. Bundling would hide any additional cost.
Next thing you're gonna tell me is that the monorail, extra magic hours, magical express, and free dining aren't free either. I for one, know that these are pure freebies given to an adoring public out of the goodness of Disney's heart.
 

asianway

Well-Known Member
Maybe the social media minions can work on explaining why limited time magic is already falling by the wayside in week 2. The direction of WDW right now is just appalling.
Go over to the limited time magic thread-explanation was just posted
 

Goof-Man

Active Member
It is always interesting. Next-Gen is coming and there is nothing we can do to avoid it. I was always the guy who hated seeing people on their phones, tablets or electronic device and continually stated that I would not use a device, or connect to e Internet while at wdw. Now, my last trip, I connected to the in park wi-fi and the resort wi-fi. The Disney app is the only way to make dining reservations as it is faster and easier than the web and phone. I was a doubter but I can see potential in a new way to do things.

Walt would be disappointed if TDO did not innovate. He never wanted the parks to become stale. Just because 2 billion dollars were spent to introduce next gen and not spent on attractions does not make it wrong. Do the parks need refurbishing, sure. But why are we still using the same fast past system as originally designed? This is innovation and enhancement and I am happy to see things moving in a direction. Good or bad we will not know for a while.
 

IWantMyMagicBand

Well-Known Member
It's already happening. I live in the UK and booked my WDW trip for this year, nearly a year ago. At that time, staying at OKW mean't a whole load of discounts at DTD, preferred firework viewing, AND DDP. I have just checked out by way of a new booking, and the DTD discounts are gone as is the DDP, it's been downgraded to QSDP. I'll be calling Disney in the morining to clarify our booking still stands as it was before changes. If true then they are also outpricing on-siters. Our holiday is already costing over 13k GBP (18 nights OKW and flights) without the added expense of Universal/seawrold tickets. If we have to start paying for table service we just simply couldn't afford it. The DDP is what swings it for us everytime.
 

asianway

Well-Known Member
It is always interesting. Next-Gen is coming and there is nothing we can do to avoid it. I was always the guy who hated seeing people on their phones, tablets or electronic device and continually stated that I would not use a device, or connect to e Internet while at wdw. Now, my last trip, I connected to the in park wi-fi and the resort wi-fi. The Disney app is the only way to make dining reservations as it is faster and easier than the web and phone. I was a doubter but I can see potential in a new way to do things.

Walt would be disappointed if TDO did not innovate. He never wanted the parks to become stale. Just because 2 billion dollars were spent to introduce next gen and not spent on attractions does not make it wrong. Do the parks need refurbishing, sure. But why are we still using the same fast past system as originally designed? This is innovation and enhancement and I am happy to see things moving in a direction. Good or bad we will not know for a while.
Do you have any conception what two billion dollars could buy - even with Disneys bloated overhead?
 

Computer Magic

Well-Known Member
It is always interesting. Next-Gen is coming and there is nothing we can do to avoid it. I was always the guy who hated seeing people on their phones, tablets or electronic device and continually stated that I would not use a device, or connect to e Internet while at wdw. Now, my last trip, I connected to the in park wi-fi and the resort wi-fi. The Disney app is the only way to make dining reservations as it is faster and easier than the web and phone. I was a doubter but I can see potential in a new way to do things.te

Walt would be disappointed if TO did not innovate. He never wanted the parks to become stale. Just because 2 billion dollars were spent to introduce next gen and not spent on attractions does not make it wrong. Do the parks need refurbishing, sure. But why are we still using the same fast past system as originally designed? This is innovation and enhancement and I am happy to see things moving in a direction. Good or bad we will not know for a while.
There are some good points here. Disney cannot turn its back on using technology to enchance their product. Sadly, the network infrastructure is under appreicated to the end user because its something you can't necessary hold or see. This is all industry and not unique to Disney. However, without it, nothing works. Its like the roads on a highway. No one wants to spend to upgrade but without it you can't get anywhere.

I'm like you. I never wanted my phone or connect to the Internet while at WDW. I always tried to keep from reality for the short time I spend in WDW. However, I'm coming to WDW in Feb and just downloaded the new app. I starting to work inside the new Myexperience. I know I'm the adnormal one as I like planning and the tech world. After all that is my profession.

I'm hoping this investments means less time in lines. I have no idea if that is true. The world has become impatient and people waiting in line doesn't mix well.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
I'll say I again.... Motives aside, a lot of issues with this whole project is it wouldn't be so bad if it were icing on a perfect cake. If two billion had also been spent improving and adding to all the parks it'd be easier to swallow. The way things are heading, each park will need two billion of fixes and additions.

Bingo!

I keep waiting to learn of some evil motive behind NextGen, or some potential legal problem Disney would have with implementing it. But all NextGen seems to be is a tech-heavy bundling of current systems and processes to house, feed and entertain a couple hundred thousand people per day on WDW property, with a big pre-arrival itinerary planning component to try and keep folks from slipping off to Universal for a day or two. And behind the scenes, NextGen seems to have a souped up version of the customer data mining that is already taking place every day at every mall and big box store in America. What am I missing here?

Now, if NextGen had been kicked off in the midst of an aggressive five-year plan to add major attractions, shows and aesthetic improvements to the aging WDW parks, that would have been super-awesome. What's painful to think about is that NextGen took the 1+ Billion dollars that could have been used for a handful of snazzy E Tickets and some really swanky expansion pads, and maybe some new monorails. o_O
 

Expo_Seeker40

Well-Known Member
:eek:

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articos

Well-Known Member
They will be getting rid of the AP's soon anyway...it's not near profitable enough.

Disney would rather your space be used by Bob and his party...they spend a LOT more money in a week than a Florida resident does all year.
Not happening. Also, ticketed media is not going away for a long time. Don't have to use the Band.
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
AP's aren't going anywhere... Kill that idiotic notion now..
Maybe not...but prices will continue to go up and perks of the pass will continue to decline. They will slowly kill the value of the pass until it might as well be dead.
 

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