News New security measures

[DisneyMom51]

THEY DON'T NEED A SIGN! It's private property that you are conditionally being allowed to visit.

I am not being conditionally allowed to visit. I am paying for entry into the park. I believe Disney calls us "guests" to our faces. What they call us behind our backs, I am not aware of. In short, a private property owner can make submission to reasonable searches a condition of entrance, however, I would tend to believe that since one is paying for entrance, the private property owner would make public their rules that would allow entrance. For example, when paying to see an opera, a movie, a play, etc...I would not expect to be searched unless a sign had specified that prior to entrance and I had been informed of this prior to my purchase of admission.
On another note to "peter11435", in the literally hundreds of times I have entered the Disney parks since 9/11, I have never been asked what was in my pockets or asked to submit to be searched and/or to pass through a metal detector or to have a "wand" passed over me.
Life is too short. I am out of here on this thread, I am "unfollowing" it and will therefore no longer respond to any comments on my posts. As it is said, some people brighten a room when they arrive, others when they leave.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

You are getting all of that out of this sign? I think I understand your privacy concerns but I also think you are being a bit paranoid. However, as you essentially have stated, this is a personal choice for you and you are entitled to it.

I couldn't even care enough to read past his first two sentences LOL.

 

[Andrew C]

I would tend to believe that since one is paying for entrance, the private property owner would make public their rules that would allow entrance. For example, when paying to see an opera, a movie, a play, etc...I would not expect to be searched unless a sign had specified that prior to entrance and I had been informed of this prior to my purchase of admission.

Here you go! https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/park-rules/

 

[Andrew C]

n the literally hundreds of times I have entered the Disney parks since 9/11, I have never been asked what was in my pockets or asked to submit to be searched and/or to pass through a metal detector or to have a "wand" passed over me.
Life is too short.

I guess all professional sporting events are a no-go for you then as well?

 

[Tony the Tigger]

I am out of here on this thread, I am "unfollowing" it and will therefore no longer respond to any comments on my posts. As it is said, some people brighten a room when they arrive, others when they leave.

 

[BernardandBianca]

Disney could have the best security of any theme park in the world - only it would cost too much and it would be too inconvenient for the guests.
In short, the El Al model. (Israel's national airline)

Shortest time we've ever spent going through security was at the airport in Tel Aviv - guess we met the profile for being non-dangerous. We barely slowed down our walking while going through the metal detector, and the lines were minuscule.

 

[ford91exploder]

Shortest time we've ever spent going through security was at the airport in Tel Aviv - guess we met the profile for being non-dangerous. We barely slowed down our walking while going through the metal detector, and the lines were minuscule.

Probably did and Israeli Intelligence probably know what you had to eat every day and who you talked to for the last 7 years.... Which is why you breezed through security there.

 

[flynnibus]

I am not being conditionally allowed to visit. I am paying for entry into the park.

It doesn't matter that you paid for entry.. they can still revoke that if they care to. There is that whole 'terms and conditions' you agree to when purchasing tickets, short of discrimination based on protected classes... they can do what they want essentially.... no 'new sign required'. You are on THEIR property and subject to their whims... and always have been. You can keep telling yourself that this is all new.. but you're misleading yourself and others.

I would tend to believe that since one is paying for entrance, the private property owner would make public their rules that would allow entrance

Know all that fine print that was on the back of your ticket, on the website, etc that you wouldn't read? Those terms and conditions?? Yeah, that's them telling you what I'm telling you now. They can revoke your admission and if you resist, you'd find yourself talking to the county sheriff and being trespassed.

But please.. make a statement with your dollars..

 

[Matt_Black]

It doesn't matter that you paid for entry.. they can still revoke that if they care to. There is that whole 'terms and conditions' you agree to when purchasing tickets, short of discrimination based on protected classes... they can do what they want essentially.... no 'new sign required'. You are on THEIR property and subject to their whims... and always have been. You can keep telling yourself that this is all new.. but you're misleading yourself and others.



Know all that fine print that was on the back of your ticket, on the website, etc that you wouldn't read? Those terms and conditions?? Yeah, that's them telling you what I'm telling you now. They can revoke your admission and if you resist, you'd find yourself talking to the county sheriff and being trespassed.

But please.. make a statement with your dollars..

"But I paid good money to be here! I should be allowed to ride Splash Mountain naked if I want to!"

 

[flynnibus]

"But I paid good money to be here! I should be allowed to ride Splash Mountain naked if I want to!"

its amazing what people think money changing hands entitles them to...

 

[Stepmc]

THEY DON'T NEED A SIGN! It's private property that you are conditionally being allowed to visit.

"Being allowed?" I'm paying dearly and they depend on my desire to visit to stay in business. Treat me like a welcome guest, not a suspect, or their "private property" will become more and more private.
Since this pointless exercise has apparently become permanent, I sent an email saying I will no longer be visiting with my family. Maybe it won't make a difference, but if enough people do, it could.
I have to say I love the idea of a precheck or "trusted visitor" program. In return for giving a little information about yourself and guests and being a returning guest, you get expedited security check-meaning cursory bag checks and no wanding/metal detectors, like it was before. I'd be willing to pay more for it and I'm sure others would since being treated like a guest is apparently a luxury and some people are willing to pay hundreds of dollars an hour just to skip lines. It would have to be as effective as random screenings of people "just because." If it's good enough for TSA, it should be good enough for a theme park.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

"Being allowed?" I'm paying dearly and they depend on my desire to visit to stay in business. Treat me like a welcome guest, not a suspect, or their "private property" will become more and more private.
Since this pointless exercise has apparently become permanent, I sent an email saying I will no longer be visiting with my family. Maybe it won't make a difference, but if enough people do, it could.
I have to say I love the idea of a precheck or "trusted visitor" program. In return for giving a little information about yourself and guests and being a returning guest, you get expedited security check-meaning cursory bag checks and no wanding/metal detectors, like it was before. I'd be willing to pay more for it and I'm sure others would since being treated like a guest is apparently a luxury and some people are willing to pay hundreds of dollars an hour just to skip lines. It would have to be as effective as random screenings of people "just because." If it's good enough for TSA, it should be good enough for a theme park.

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. I'm sure Disney will be laughing at this and rolling in their billions of dollars. This is for your own safety, thank you for not visiting anymore, less people in line

 

[flynnibus]

"Being allowed?" I'm paying dearly and they depend on my desire to visit to stay in business. Treat me like a welcome guest, not a suspect, or their "private property" will become more and more private.

It's a privledge.. not a right. Paying for it doesn't mean you own it. Yes, the business wants to keep you happy as a customer, but that doesn't mean they relinquish their own rights. The point of the matter is.. Disney is doing more screening, but it doesn't fundamentally alter anyone's "rights" or needed disclaimers before Disney could turn you away like they always have been.

Show up actings like a raving lunatic.. and they'll sweep you away... no sign needed.

 

[Matt_Black]

"Being allowed?" I'm paying dearly and they depend on my desire to visit to stay in business.

Oh, that's adorable. Newsflash- you are one person. Your dollars are a drop in the bucket to them. Walt Disney World is THE most visited vacation destination on the planet. You don't want to go anymore? Fine. There are millions of other people more than happy to take your place in line.

 

[Stepmc]

Oh, that's adorable. Newsflash- you are one person. Your dollars are a drop in the bucket to them. Walt Disney World is THE most visited vacation destination on the planet. You don't want to go anymore? Fine. There are millions of other people more than happy to take your place in line.

Wow. Just one person saying they won't be going back because they disapprove of the new conditions elicits this frenzied, vitriolic response? You just encouraged me to believe that Disney may actually pay attention after all. Maybe when they can convince me that searching my weapon free 96 year old mother is "for my own safety," I'll go back.

 

[Stepmc]

It's a privledge.. not a right. Paying for it doesn't mean you own it. Yes, the business wants to keep you happy as a customer, but that doesn't mean they relinquish their own rights. The point of the matter is.. Disney is doing more screening, but it doesn't fundamentally alter anyone's "rights" or needed disclaimers before Disney could turn you away like they always have been.

Show up actings like a raving lunatic.. and they'll sweep you away... no sign needed.

I didn't say I think I own it, but I and people who share my opinion have helped to pay for it and don't feel the need to surrender privacy completely just to ride teacups. And I doubt in the decades my family has visited the parks and stayed at Disney Resorts that any of us has shown up "acting like raving lunatics." After following this for 87 pages, I've noticed some people don't tolerate expressions of differing opinions very well. If it doesn't bother you, by all means, keep going, volunteer for a pat down, whatever makes you "feel safe." But don't go ballistic when someone disagrees and says so in a forum dedicated to a discussion of the topic,

 

[flynnibus]

I didn't say I think I own it, but I and people who share my opinion have helped to pay for it and don't feel the need to surrender privacy completely just to ride teacups. And I doubt in the decades my family has visited the parks and stayed at Disney Resorts that any of us has shown up "acting like raving lunatics." After following this for 87 pages, I've noticed some people don't tolerate expressions of differing opinions very well. If it doesn't bother you, by all means, keep going, volunteer for a pat down, whatever makes you "feel safe." But don't go ballistic when someone disagrees and says so in a forum dedicated to a discussion of the topic,

Sure people can disagree - but they don't get to make up their own facts.

 

[Stepmc]

Sure people can disagree - but they don't get to make up their own facts.

Did I make up a fact?

 

[mm121]

"But I paid good money to be here! I should be allowed to ride Splash Mountain naked if I want to!"

its amazing what people think money changing hands entitles them to...

a naked disney day would definitely be something different and fun but only if it included a naked waterpark day

 

[Matt_Black]

Wow. Just one person saying they won't be going back because they disapprove of the new conditions elicits this frenzied, vitriolic response?

Frenzied? Vitriolic? I'm not the one acting like routine security measures are a personal affront.