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[G00fyDad]

Except it doesn't....

So you're saying that the time it took to get into the parks by use of the MB only is just as long as the the time it takes to get flagged by security to be checked more closely and then still go through the entrance points? I don't know about you, but adding an extra step in a process usually makes things a little longer.

 

[Matt_Black]

So you're saying that the time it took to get into the parks by use of the MB only is just as long as the the time it takes to get flagged by security to be checked more closely and then still go through the entrance points? I don't know about you, but adding an extra step in a process usually makes things a little longer.

I think what's being said is that the additional time is negligible. It'd be like if my bald spot grew in by 0.01%. Yes, I technically have more hair, but it's barely noticeable.

 

[dreamfinder]

So therefore not everyone is getting the "empty your pockets and go through the metal detector" treatment? My son seemed to think that everyone that didn't go through bag check had to go through the metal detectors. BTW he wasn't upset with the process at all other than the one security guy at the bag entrance at Epcot that wanted to know what was the bulge in his pockets, which was his wallet which he showed to the man. He was then forced to still go through the metal detectors. Still didn't upset him, however, made me mad.

It seems to depend on the day and the whims of security. (More likely they are still trying to dial in the process) There were days where it was reported that all guests were going through the metal detectors, but most days it's still a random pick of guests. I've seen CSC staff "randomly" selecting people, I've seen Disney security selecting guests, and I've seen people in random uniforms selecting guests (may be police or security, couldn't tell). Both from the bag check line, as well as the bag less line. Some locations the metal detectors seemed to be setup only for bag guests, specifically Epcot front gate, the only one I saw is past bag check under the monorail station, which is very out of the way for someone going through the bag less line to be escorted over to, but at other locations, they can easily pull from either line.

 

[s8film40]

I think what's being said is that the additional time is negligible. It'd be like if my bald spot grew in by 0.01%. Yes, I technically have more hair, but it's barely noticeable.

Yeah the security check itself is a fairly negligible amount of time just as it is in airports. The key difference here is that Disney does not allow lines to form. Personally I'm happy they chose not to take this seriously and only randomly check a few people.

 

[G00fyDad]

I think what's being said is that the additional time is negligible. It'd be like if my bald spot grew in by 0.01%. Yes, I technically have more hair, but it's barely noticeable.

Yeah the security check itself is a fairly negligible amount of time just as it is in airports. The key difference here is that Disney does not allow lines to form. Personally I'm happy they chose not to take this seriously and only randomly check a few people.

Yeah. I didn't think that it took too much more time. His comment just seemed rather concrete. As if it didn't take any extra time at all. Some people are going to be upset regardless of how much time it takes. The people I know that went may have just been blowing it out of proportion. They made it sound like security was taking their time and a line was forming. Some people will gripe about anything though. I remember the introduction of the biometric scanners. Holy crap! People lost their minds thinking that Disney was fingerprinting them, or stealing their souls with the magic finger boxes of sorcery. I'm still not sure about that one.

 

[s8film40]

Yeah. I didn't think that it took too much more time. His comment just seemed rather concrete. As if it didn't take any extra time at all. Some people are going to be upset regardless of how much time it takes. The people I know that went may have just been blowing it out of proportion. They made it sound like security was taking their time and a line was forming. Some people will gripe about anything though. I remember the introduction of the biometric scanners. Holy crap! People lost their minds thinking that Disney was fingerprinting them, or stealing their souls with the magic finger boxes of sorcery. I'm still not sure about that one.

Yeah and it's a very valid point about the whole MB's were supposed to make things more convenient. The idea that they put so much effort into touting the fact you would save a few seconds by not having to take your ticket out of your wallet highlights that while it might only be a minimal inconvenience apparently those few seconds matter to some people.

It's also easy to say it's no big deal if your not getting picked. The majority of people walk by and say "that was easy" because they didn't have to do anything different than before. Most people see and or hear about the metal detectors and build up an expectation that it's going to be inconvenient and then they don't even get selected and it beats their lowered expectations.

 

[s8film40]

I can't speak to the times at Disney but I can tell you from personal experience that the delays at airports post 9-11 are exponentially longer than before.

Yes but the security check itself is pretty similar in time. If Disney made everyone wait in line to go through the metal detectors it would be a pretty similar wait as that of the airports.

 

[flynnibus]

So you're saying that the time it took to get into the parks by use of the MB only is just as long as the the time it takes to get flagged by security to be checked more closely and then still go through the entrance points? I don't know about you, but adding an extra step in a process usually makes things a little longer.

You get bogged down by the bag check and that gauntlet more than the scanners. Overall their time added is negligible. They don't even take enough people to queue up.. they literally just ask someone to step aside, they empty their pockets, they walk through. 99% of the moaning on here is about stuff that doesn't even exist or is so negligible it's petty to even mention.

 

[EOD K9]

To expand upon security at the hotels.....
Guests will go through a full screening at the hotel. They will then have their bands scanned prior to boarding the bus or monorail. From there, the bus will have a security team member on board to vouch that everyone has been fully vetted. Next, the doors will be sealed with tamper proof tape or welded shut. Upon arrival at your destination the seal will be broken and you'll be escorted in via a separate entrance. While this process may seem longer, once you are at your destination you will be allowed to go right through without any further inconvenience. I hope this clarifies some of the new procedures.

 

[G00fyDad]

To expand upon security at the hotels.....
Guests will go through a full screening at the hotel. They will then have their bands scanned prior to boarding the bus or monorail. From there, the bus will have a security team member on board to vouch that everyone has been fully vetted. Next, the doors will be sealed with tamper proof tape or welded shut. Upon arrival at your destination the seal will be broken and you'll be escorted in via a separate entrance. While this process may seem longer, once you are at your destination you will be allowed to go right through without any further inconvenience. I hope this clarifies some of the new procedures.

That actually made me really laugh. Too funny.

 

[EOD K9]

Sadly though, I do draw some of this from real life.

 

[G00fyDad]

Sadly though, I do draw some of this from real life.

It does sound oddly reminiscent of a time when I was in the US Air Force Security Forces. Things were just way, way too complicated. But you're going to get a little of that when you're dealing with nuclear weapons.. lol

 

[EOD K9]

It does sound oddly reminiscent of a time when I was in the US Air Force Security Forces. Things were just way, way too complicated. But you're going to get a little of that when you're dealing with nuclear weapons.. lol

I'm sure some people may take my response seriously, which is why I added the welded comment.

 

[DManRightHere]

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but Universal is doing a full metal detector check, at the entrance to city walk. Everyone goes through the metal detectors, it is a bit crazy in the mornings as there is little discernable lines, but it seems like the lines to actually get into the parks are shorter. So no loss of time to me.

So IF Disney implemented a full metal detector search of everyone and the lines to actually enter the park are never empty (but likely shorter due to a line at the metal detectors) I do not think there is any loss of time.

I am fine with security searches, but I wish they would que it up, and for everyone. Random checks seems pointless. The whole process is better than nothing.

 

[ABQ]

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but Universal is doing a full metal detector check, at the entrance to city walk. Everyone goes through the metal detectors, it is a bit crazy in the mornings as there is little discernable lines, but it seems like the lines to actually get into the parks are shorter. So no loss of time to me.

So IF Disney implemented a full metal detector search of everyone and the lines to actually enter the park are never empty (but likely shorter due to a line at the metal detectors) I do not think there is any loss of time.

I am fine with security searches, but I wish they would que it up, and for everyone. Random checks seems pointless. The whole process is better than nothing.

I agree with you, and I think the Uni 100% check was mentioned, but 83 or so pages back. However, I'm not sure how WDW could find a proper location for metal detected in advance of the current magic band checkpoints. Especially at the MK. With the bus unloads, the ferry, the monorail and foot traffic, plus resort boats, the bottleneck would be insane. As it is, the sea of humanity fills in all available space. I think they'd need to relieve some pressure with metal detectors back at the TTC and then somehow ensure all those guests stay within some sort of controlled environment all the way inside the park gates.

 

[DManRightHere]

I agree with you, and I think the Uni 100% check was mentioned, but 83 or so pages back. However, I'm not sure how WDW could find a proper location for metal detected in advance of the current magic band checkpoints. Especially at the MK. With the bus unloads, the ferry, the monorail and foot traffic, plus resort boats, the bottleneck would be insane. As it is, the sea of humanity fills in all available space. I think they'd need to relieve some pressure with metal detectors back at the TTC and then somehow ensure all those guests stay within some sort of controlled environment all the way inside the park gates.

It would have to replace the bag check. As long as there is enough detectors/personnel to match the entry to the park (in means of guests processed per hour) there shouldn't be a problem. If there are empty lines at the actual park entrance, then there is a problem.

Rember Universals security check location is checking guests for Universal Studios, Islands of Adventure, and City Walk. I'm not sure what they would do in peak season though. Maybe there is a max capacity for arriving guests (how many can actually park and get to the check point per hour).

 

[mm121]

I agree with you, and I think the Uni 100% check was mentioned, but 83 or so pages back. However, I'm not sure how WDW could find a proper location for metal detected in advance of the current magic band checkpoints. Especially at the MK. With the bus unloads, the ferry, the monorail and foot traffic, plus resort boats, the bottleneck would be insane. As it is, the sea of humanity fills in all available space. I think they'd need to relieve some pressure with metal detectors back at the TTC and then somehow ensure all those guests stay within some sort of controlled environment all the way inside the park gates.

if they went with full checks especially at MK they'd definitely have to do some redesigning.

it would require a total rebuild of the TTC to enable all the driving day visitors to be screened there, and then a rebuild of the monorail exits at the MK to somehow direct those directly to the turnstyles

same thing could be done with the ferry boats though to give more space for screening from the busses the boat docks would maybe need to be relocated

and there would have to be a way to keep the unscreened resort monorail guests and the unscreened resort boat guests seperate totally from the pre-screened ttc guests

also there would be the huge visual intrusion of building a screening building right at the front of the park for the bus guests and the resort boat guests, not sure they could build it underground at all due to the water levels and that area is on true ground rather than one level up like most of the park.

 

[mm121]

It would have to replace the bag check. As long as there is enough detectors/personnel to match the entry to the park (in means of guests processed per hour) there shouldn't be a problem. If there are empty lines at the actual park entrance, then there is a problem.

Rember Universals security check location is checking guests for Universal Studios, Islands of Adventure, and City Walk. I'm not sure what they would do in peak season though. Maybe there is a max capacity for arriving guests (how many can actually park and get to the check point per hour).

during halloween horror nights the crowds at the security checkpoints are INSANE!!!!!!

 

[G00fyDad]

I'm sure some people may take my response seriously, which is why I added the welded comment.

I know what you mean. I was serious in my comment though. Your original comment does seem oddly reminiscent of what it took when we were required to go down into the missile silos.

 

[DisneyMom51]

So, does any one have a picture of the signs prior to entry at the park that detail what may or will be required regarding security checks that they can post or is there a picture already posted in this thread? Thank you.