News New security measures

[The Mom]

Let's stay on the topic of "new security measures at WDW" and off the topic of Wyatt Earp, for example. Thank you.

 

[SirLink]

So any of the banning of toy guns with the massive painted orange ends be stopped being sold? Just seems like over excessive.

 

[Killnme]

How long will these new measures hold up the lines to get into the park? Or could I use a fast pass to go through a different line?

 

[PhotoDave219]

So any of the banning of toy guns with the massive painted orange ends be stopped being sold? Just seems like over excessive.

These are just rumors. I'm not giving them any weight.

 

[wdwmagic]

These are just rumors. I'm not giving them any weight.

Start giving them weight. Just had some more info on this, looks to be a goer.

 

[note2001]

I'm not understanding the banning of toy gun sales inside the Disney Parks. Those toy guns go right along with the theme of Frontier and Adventureland. And as my dad pointed out some time back, his generation grew up with not much more than Toy Guns, jacks, marbles and yo yos - yet they grew up fine.

Is the problem that they'd be afraid a toy rifle could be mistaken as a real one? How in the world would a 3' long barrel have made it past security, particularly if they're putting scanners in place?

... oh, and Disney, if you're out there, bring Musket Mickey back to the Fort. Never did I connect him with violence, nor did anyone else for that matter.

 

[marni1971]

I'm not understanding the banning of toy gun sales inside the Disney Parks..

When seen from 50ft away in the dark that toy may not look like a toy.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Start giving them weight. Just had some more info on this, looks to be a goer.

Interesting.

Curious how this plays out

 

[wdwmagic]

Interesting.

Curious how this plays out

Yeah same here. We won't have long to wait to find out.

 

[monothingie]

It can be just like Mission Space, you can choose the green line or the orange line for "More Intensive Screening"


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[jgj123]

Here's a very unobtrusive system currently used by the military, tested at a Saints football game (with the NFL looking to implement this at all stadiums) and being used at a local school with a mobile version for sports events. It's even been demonstrated for unnamed theme parks and doesn't have to be installed at the ticket scanning entrance - it could be installed between the entrance and bus depot, TTC and monorail/ferry.

http://www.nola.com/business/index.ssf/2015/12/security_scanner_company_wants.html#incart_river_home

Just a set of posts.

 

[senor_jorge]

I'm not understanding the banning of toy gun sales inside the Disney Parks. Those toy guns go right along with the theme of Frontier and Adventureland. And as my dad pointed out some time back, his generation grew up with not much more than Toy Guns, jacks, marbles and yo yos - yet they grew up fine.

Is the problem that they'd be afraid a toy rifle could be mistaken as a real one? How in the world would a 3' long barrel have made it past security, particularly if they're putting scanners in place?

... oh, and Disney, if you're out there, bring Musket Mickey back to the Fort. Never did I connect him with violence, nor did anyone else for that matter.

By banning all of them there is no later debate about what was covered by the ban and what wasn't.

In a low light situation it's not impossible to mistake a toy for a real weapon, even for those with training and experience.

We just returned home on Saturday, and I remember seeing many light sabers and maybe a sword or two. The gun total would be 0.

 

[monothingie]

Consider that with the parks, especially the MK access is very layered. Just to get to the MK you have go through transportation means just to get to the front gate. It's not like you can drive right up, unpack your weapons and walk up. You have to do one or more of the following: ride a tram, bus, monorail, boat, walk just to get to the security checkpoint. Not something someone who has weapons or bombs or whatever would look to do because it exposes them. I would think the easiest way to access the parks for nefarious reasons is using backstage entrances. I really doubt they are as well guarded as the main gates.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

In a low light situation it's not impossible to mistake a toy for a real weapon, even for those with training and experience.

Come on. We're not talking about replica AR-15 airsoft guns. They're plastic pirate toys.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Can we back up for a second and think about the fact that the security in this situation worked. We're talking about all of these changes that need to go in place because... the existing system did exactly what it was supposed to do successfully?

 

[note2001]

Can we back up for a second and think about the fact that the security in this situation worked. We're talking about all of these changes that need to go in place because... the existing system did exactly what it was supposed to do successfully?

But we don't know if the Disney parks have been getting more serious security threats in recent years. If scanners are the only way to prevent something from happening I'm all for it. Although they are a buzzkill to the magic, I can see how they may be needed for those overloaded backpacks and pants-of-many-pockets.

Anyone care to tell me what's with the new trend I'm seeing of older ladies pushing around strollers filled with their stuff? No child to be seen anywhere. They get on the bus with them. Not saying they're a security threat, but what's with that? It certainly makes security's job a bit more difficult than it needs to be.

 

[Travel Junkie]

Can we back up for a second and think about the fact that the security in this situation worked. We're talking about all of these changes that need to go in place because... the existing system did exactly what it was supposed to do successfully?

Maybe it's a good idea to not wait until they don't work?

 

[rucifee]

Can we back up for a second and think about the fact that the security in this situation worked. We're talking about all of these changes that need to go in place because... the existing system did exactly what it was supposed to do successfully?

Security 101, rule #1, security is never good enough and must be constantly evolving.

 

[lazyboy97o]

But we don't know if the Disney parks have been getting more serious security threats in recent years. If scanners are the only way to prevent something from happening I'm all for it. Although they are a buzzkill to the magic, I can see how they may be needed for those overloaded backpacks and pants-of-many-pockets.

Anyone care to tell me what's with the new trend I'm seeing of older ladies pushing around strollers filled with their stuff? No child to be seen anywhere. They get on the bus with them. Not saying they're a security threat, but what's with that? It certainly makes security's job a bit more difficult than it needs to be.

Scanners won't prevent anything, just change the where.

 

[rob0519]

They were serious today as well.

The security posture was noticibly increased Since my last visit in April. (i won't elaborate on what I noticed, for obvious reasons.)

On our trip week of Thanksgiving I saw the K9 patrol outside the MK in dark grey military style fatigues and boots. The large German Shepard had a vest with large letters "Do Not Pet". That was the first I'd seen of this type of security outfits at WDW.