Epcot81Fan
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But, but, one of the walls is the same color as one at the Halekulani so…um…something!!!!
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News New Polynesian Resort DVC villas building to open 2024
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John park hopper
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You stated my exactly feelings and that is what the original Poly did
DCLcruiser
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Then you don't want a modern hotel. The white/beige/wood represents sand and driftwood, etc.
Polynesian Village offers an idealized vision of what Polynesia was.
Perhaps the DVC resort will use enough lush vegetation and flowers to transport you to Polynesia of 2024.
DisneyHead123
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I'm on the fence regarding whether or not it's still the trend.
On the one hand, there's a lot of snark online about "sad beige". Indicating the pendulum might be about to swing on styles. I hear that in some areas, big, bold, wallpaper prints are even back in. Never thought I'd see wallpaper again!
On the other, I think the faux minimalist (faux because it really just means people can afford storage space), open concept, natural pale colors palate got popular for a reason. I don't think it was a kind of random trend. If you think about what the word "stuffy" means, in the most literal sense, it means "full of stuff". There's a reason people associate cluttered rooms with "stuffiness" and minimalist rooms with a feeling of openness and relaxation. Probably especially true for those of use who grew up during the "collectibles era" of the 80s and 90s where the trend was literal stuff, like, everywhere. You bought cabinets and shelves and more shelves to showcase it. Marie Kondo was just waiting to happen. So again, I don't know if this is a "trend", or likely going to be people's preference moving forward in the era of bigger buildings with more storage space.
Either way, however, I think it's a mistake (I think... again, Riviera DVC sold really well so what do I know) to assume that people want to look at their living room or even their favorite beachside Hilton while at Disney. I think that look is more for where people go to just "be" - to sit around and relax. Home and beach lines up with that, Disney parks do not. As much as I try (mostly in vain,) to declutter my house at home, there are some places in the world I would love to see or visit again specifically because they are full of interesting things. Tokyo definitely comes to mind... Vegas... anything Disney related... Dubai... heck even just Great Wolf Lodge. All of those places strike me as having a vibrant, playful, endless exploration type element. Like imagine taking your kid to Great Wolf lodge and suddenly everything is beige, lol! There's a time and a place. I just don't think Disney is it - but again, maybe they know something I don't. Maybe people want playful parks but bougie themed hotels, who knows?
DCLcruiser
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There could be a need to offer both. Some, want clean and modern, others want a tiki hut. Disney is offering two sides of the Polynesian coin.
It is like in DL Paris having a Cowboy/Western hotel and a modern City hotel. Both are American, one is Americana.
Epcot81Fan
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And for those that want a generic Hampton Inn by the lake, they are also pleased.
Everybody wins, especially the shameless apologists!
Everybody wins, especially the shameless apologists!
Epcot81Fan
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Exactly!
Hey, when are those unique, themed hotels getting their completely disconnected generic expansions bolted on?
Beacon Joe
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I guess this may be a move by Disney Co to gain customer share from all the current "Sad Beige Baby" parents who may start taking their tykes to WDW within the next couple of years.
BrianLo
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Whether we like it or not, this is not, in fact, true. Riviera rooms have proven incredibly preferential to purchasing members.
I think there is conflict between older membership/older members and newer, but this is what the majority of purchasers prefer these days.
Kitschy theming is not in style. Which everyone is open to preferring here on their own terms. But it’s not in style, which means it is not in fact the preference.
Bocabear
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but does anyone want to spend $600 a night for a Hampton Inn? It should be more special... The theme was in fact what made the Disney Difference... And theme can be beautifully realized without being "kitschy".
Basil of Baker Street
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Room interiors are only going to affect those buying into it. If people like the look, they will buy in. If the don't, they won't.
Exterior is a different story..
Exterior is a different story..
DisneyHead123
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I'll be curious to see how this plays out. Riviera does have a couple of things that keep it from being totally in the "sad beige" category. It is slightly more colorful. It evokes that "vaguely European grey scheme hey maybe this is Harry Potter stuff?" feel that people go crazy for. And it's self-contained, so it is it's own little universe, as opposed to the Poly Tower, attached to the iconic Poly, with a very distinct and beloved look.
If Poly Tower sells like hotcakes I think it's confirmation that there is a strong market for the sad beige look. But even if it doesn't, I can understand their thinking in building it. Just because fashion is fickle and changes on a dime doesn't mean that wasn't a predominant look until quite recently (and again, I still like a very natural palate at home, just not what I'm looking for at Disney).
I will also say that "over the top theming" doesn't have to mean "kitschy". As I type this, my son is watching a video of Roma and Diana exploring theme parks in Abu Dhabi. Between them and Vlad and Niki I've also seen lots of Dubai destinations. They are over the top luxe but also over the top themed (honestly to a degree that might not be realistic for Disney in places, but just saying the two aren't mutually exclusive).
Epcot81Fan
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Of course it can - Aulani being the perfect example.
I was being sarcastic, pointing out the absurdity of the defenders.
Beacon Joe
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Found the room palatte inspiration.
Bocabear
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if it sells like hotcakes...much like Riviera, I don't believe the decor is the selling feature but the proximity to the Skyliner or for the Poly, the monorail access to the magic kingdom... Basically just a nice hotel...location is the selling feature so why bother designing something that matches the resort? no one seems to care except us....
BrianLo
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It is themed though, you just don't like the current style trends. You like kitschy for Polynesia and that is not a criticism of you at all, but you are trying to impose your preferences as both more accurate to the location and more of the preferences of current buyers. Neither of which are reality.
I can very clearly tell a difference between these Poly rooms, new VGF Studios and Riviera. As muted as style trends are, they are different. This clearly evokes Polynesia (just not Disney Polynesia), because, again, that's not in style. Nor is it representative of actual Polynesia. DAK and Animal Kingdom Lodge... now those are things that are both themed and actually represent the places they are based on.
The Hampton Inn and Holiday Inn comparisons are a bit silly, particularly when OG Poly is far more evocative of an Inn. Even Marriott is not right, I know Marriott brand standards and this is not it. I'd say this Poly Tower reminds me far more of the Westin Brand, if people still want to lobby complaints again it, but at least be more accurate in their criticisms.
John park hopper
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IMO it boils down to there are 2 camps one being people(me included) who remember when Disney resorts were built to evoke a feeling like you were some place special example the old Polynesian Resort and it's original lobby, Contemporary modern (modern for its time), PORFQ etc, The other camp are those people who either never experienced this and these generic DVC are just fine with them. Neither camp is wrong everyone is entitled to there opinion
nickys
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It will sell fast.
A lot of those sales will be existing owners, whether at the Poly or elsewhere, because they want the option for larger room types at that resort than just studios.
Some will just want direct Poly points with an incentive to sweeten the deal. They might never book the Tower rooms.
It will sell because it’s the Poly, with all the reasons that the Poly is popular with many guests.
nickys
Premium Member
Too much green!
DCLcruiser
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I absolutely prefer the overly themed resorts, but I understand why some aren't. I was originally defending the color pallete.
I think Wilderness Lodge is amazing in it's theming and execution. If it looked like a normal hotel with a few bear paintings, it wouldn't have the same impact. But, if the point was to make it a modern Denver hotel, then I get why it would be less kitschy.