News New Polynesian Resort DVC villas building to open 2024

DCLcruiser

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Beacon Joe

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Since when has Polynesia lost all its color and become bland beige, the at work looks nice just lacks color.

Maybe it's inspired by the color palatte of Waianae tract homes, specifically the driveways and curbs.

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John park hopper

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That's what modern Polynesian resorts look like. White, beige and natural woods.

Conrad Bora Bora https://www.hilton.com/en/hotels/pptbnci-conrad-bora-bora-nui/
Hilton Tahiti https://www.hilton.com/en/hotels/ppthihh-hilton-hotel-tahiti/
Sofitel Fiji https://www.sofitel-fiji.com/
All hotels built by major mainland corporations IMO don't reflect the Hawaiian culture

The Official Colors and Flowers of 8 Hawaiian islands​

Hawaii – Red – Lehua flower
Maui – Pink – Lokelani rose
Kahoolawe – Gray – Hinahina plant
Lanai – Orange – Kaunaoa plant
Molokai – Green – Kukui Nut flower
Oahu – Yellow – Ilima flower
Kauai – Purple – Mokihana berry
Niihau – White – White Pupu shell​

Don't see beige any where
 

DCLcruiser

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All hotels built by major mainland corporations IMO don't reflect the Hawaiian culture

The Official Colors and Flowers of 8 Hawaiian islands​

Hawaii – Red – Lehua flower​

Maui – Pink – Lokelani rose​

Kahoolawe – Gray – Hinahina plant​

Lanai – Orange – Kaunaoa plant​

Molokai – Green – Kukui Nut flower​

Oahu – Yellow – Ilima flower​

Kauai – Purple – Mokihana berry​

Niihau – White – White Pupu shell​

Don't see beige any where
None of my examples were Hawaiian.

Here is the Halekulani (Waikiki Beach, Honolulu, Hawaii), which is one of the best hotels in Honolulu. Ranked #1 on TripAdvisor. It was ranked #2 in the world by NY Times (or some newspaper) back in the 1990s when I went as a kid.

Notice, the white, beige and natural wood colors. Color kitsch is not really in luxurious Polynesian hotels.


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MouseEarsMom33

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Guessing the wedding pavilion will be removed and a new venue designed and built. It has to be around 30 years old now. Seems that not many weddings today take place in a traditional, formal setting.
It appears they are keeping that side of the Polynesian tower white to blend in with the Pavilion. Unless there has been an updated paint work that I haven't seen yet.
 

DisneyHead123

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None of my examples were Hawaiian.

Here is the Halekulani (Waikiki Beach, Honolulu, Hawaii), which is one of the best hotels in Honolulu. Ranked #1 on TripAdvisor. It was ranked #2 in the world by NY Times (or some newspaper) back in the 1990s when I went as a kid.

Notice, the white, beige and natural wood colors. Color kitsch is not really in luxurious Polynesian hotels.


The problem is that moderately upscale hotel decor isn’t really location specific. A nice Hilton in Japan isn’t that different from a nice Hilton in the US or Hawaii.

My assumption is that people go to Disney because they want to feel transported. That said, I think Riviera was more on the bland side and also sold really well, so they may be catering to a market who likes that more “generic greige” look. (I laugh about it, but honestly I do like it for home decor. It’s calming, it opens everything up, and it’s practical because you’re not constantly trying to match shades. It’s kind of like string lights - there’s just something about them, it’s hard for me to just say no to that look. It’s not what I go to Disney for, though.)
 

Disstevefan1

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The problem is that moderately upscale hotel decor isn’t really location specific. A nice Hilton in Japan isn’t that different from a nice Hilton in the US or Hawaii.

My assumption is that people go to Disney because they want to feel transported. That said, I think Riviera was more on the bland side and also sold really well, so they may be catering to a market who likes that more “generic greige” look. (I laugh about it, but honestly I do like it for home decor. It’s calming, it opens everything up, and it’s practical because you’re not constantly trying to match shades. It’s kind of like string lights - there’s just something about them, it’s hard for me to just say no to that look. It’s not what I go to Disney for, though.)
Creative theming costs MONEY to create and maintain.

The more generic, the LESS MONEY it costs to build and maintain.

Cheap and generic is a page from the book of Chapek, and Iger goes right along with it.


TWDC wasn't damaged by Chapek, 🎶it was Iger all along🎶
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DisneyHead123

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Creative theming costs MONEY to create and maintain.

The more generic, the LESS MONEY it costs to build and maintain.

Cheap and generic is a page from the book of Chapek, and Iger goes right along with it.


TWDC wasn't damaged by Chapek, 🎶it was Iger all along🎶
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Lol! I know it’s not a popular opinion but I tend to cut Iger some slack as I think he is juggling lots of interests and has had to fend off at least two hostile takeovers that I can think of. I don’t think he’s a person who is just enamored with the parks by nature, but I see him as a reasonable type who can be convinced to invest in the parks when shown the benefit of that investment. And I think with the current dynamic of parks and cruises leading profits, that will probably happen.

I don’t know if the beige look is cheaper, or if it’s easier from a design perspective. I feel like themed hotels has to be an extremely niche thing in the design world, while the minimalist beige look is very popular, pretty forgiving, and there are probably lots of people who have worked with it. If you screw up a hotel that is meant to look like a longhouse the result could be anything from hideous to actually culturally offensive. If you screw up hard-to-make-out beige carvings on a beige wall surrounded by beige ceilings and beige floors and columns, at worst it’s probably a shrug and a snarky comment about beige. (Or, again, maybe that’s just what people want to purchase these days.)
 

DCLcruiser

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The problem is that moderately upscale hotel decor isn’t really location specific. A nice Hilton in Japan isn’t that different from a nice Hilton in the US or Hawaii.

My assumption is that people go to Disney because they want to feel transported. That said, I think Riviera was more on the bland side and also sold really well, so they may be catering to a market who likes that more “generic greige” look. (I laugh about it, but honestly I do like it for home decor. It’s calming, it opens everything up, and it’s practical because you’re not constantly trying to match shades. It’s kind of like string lights - there’s just something about them, it’s hard for me to just say no to that look. It’s not what I go to Disney for, though.)
I get it, people want a stereotype, kitsch, romanticism (not necessarily bad, but not necessarily current).

White/Beige/Woods is the trend in high-end interior design. Hell, I remember staying at the Westin in Grand Cayman in 2013 and the decor was white, beige, wood and pops of teal pillows.
 

John park hopper

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I get it, people want a stereotype, kitsch, romanticism (not necessarily bad, but not necessarily current).

White/Beige/Woods is the trend in high-end interior design. Hell, I remember staying at the Westin in Grand Cayman in 2013 and the decor was white, beige, wood and pops of teal pillows.
Grand Cayman is not Polynesia
 

Bocabear

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The resorts were never supposed to be a copy of another resort found in Polynesia, but evoke the atmosphere and feeling of Polynesia.... If the resort evokes the feeling of any Marriott hotel, then thematically it is a failure. If you can find a hotel in Polynesia that has a similar aesthetic that also does not evoke it's location, it is also a design failure... The theme resorts were supposed to be transportive...not just nice... I think the design of the rooms is very pretty... but does not feel particularly transportive or evocative of the theme.
 

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