EPCOT New Play Pavilion to replace Epcot's Wonders of Life

TwilightZone

Well-Known Member
I still think the concept of play could've been great if it focused more on the tech side than the IP side (or integrated the two in a natural way). Kinda like a modern innoventions, but instead of showcasing sponsor tech, it showcases how technology can be incorporated with entertainment.

The "art academy" could show how tablets and other technology influence modern animation and art, for example.
 

CJR

Well-Known Member
It could easily be that their source's desire is shielding the reality. This isn't their first speculation piece about Play! being canceled.

Agree that a simple push down the project list makes sense for many reasons. It will not take a lot of money to get the building ready to open at this point, it's definitely more about staffing.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
Remember: The cancelation of PLAY! is still a rumor. And consider the source.
It's also transparently nonsense.

The executive retreat during which this "decision" was allegedly made is not a "parks managers sit around and make operational decisions" type of event. I'd wager that the majority of attendees weren't even Parks people to begin with. The types of topics they talk about at these things are like... overarching company strategy, media narratives, how Bob wants to handle controversial social issues going forward, what the research teams are saying about the ad sales and pay TV landscape in the coming years, whether we're about to enter a recession, how the midterm elections could affect the company, major new HR news or initiatives, etc.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
If the Board actually canceled it this week, why release that exclusively to the bad site? They hate him.

Also, I doubt the Board would make a decision like that. Might they have decided to pull its FY23 funding and shuttle it elsewhere? Sure. That would delay the project by a year (if it then was added to the FY24 budget). But a cancellation from that group seems unlikely.
The Board wasn't even there. This was a management retreat, not a Board retreat.
 

Casper Gutman

Well-Known Member
I am having a hard time grasping why folks are so incredulous about this cancellation, even taking into account the often untrustworthy source. This “attraction” was half-baked and vague from the moment it was announced, reeking of a board room compromise. It would essentially replicate innoventions at a moment when they were removing innoventions. It wasn’t going to drive much business to EPCOT or demonstrate much ROI. It wasn’t going to move much merch. It was part of a plan that has already had numerous attractions cut. All indications are that Disney is about to enter into a (very ill-advised) period of stagnation, having opened several rides in the last few years. Honestly, it will be odder if this isn’t cancelled.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
I am having a hard time grasping why folks are so incredulous about this cancellation, even taking into account the often untrustworthy source. This “attraction” was half-baked and vague from the moment it was announced, reeking of a board room compromise. It would essentially replicate innoventions at a moment when they were removing innoventions. It wasn’t going to drive much business to EPCOT or demonstrate much ROI. It wasn’t going to move much merch. It was part of a plan that has already had numerous attractions cut. All indications are that Disney is about to enter into a (very ill-advised) period of stagnation, having opened several rides in the last few years. Honestly, it will be odder if this isn’t cancelled.
I for one would be happy if it is in fact cancelled...BUT would like to see something in its place that is more worthy of being created.
 

doctornick

Well-Known Member
I for one would be happy if it is in fact cancelled...BUT would like to see something in its place that is more worthy of being created.
If it get canceled, it will just sit empty for a long time, as it has since 2007. Or how the Stitch space in MK is at this point. I don’t really get the sentiment that not building this is “better” than having it completed. Even if you absolutely hate it and never step foot in the building, at the very least it occupies others and takes them out of line for other attractions.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
If it get canceled, it will just sit empty for a long time, as it has since 2007. Or how the Stitch space in MK is at this point. I don’t really get the sentiment that not building this is “better” than having it completed. Even if you absolutely hate it and never step foot in the building, at the very least it occupies others and takes them out of line for other attractions.
Puts pressure on them to continue to think of ways to utilize the pavilion, and hopefully for the better. That is my personal view. It wasn't like we were getting an attraction like guardians, where it is a really good ride with the main concern from some is it being in the wrong place. We were going to get something pretty lame in a giant pavilion and would be stuck with it...IMO, nothing in this case is actually better

With that being said, we still don't know whether it has been cancelled.
 

UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
If it get canceled, it will just sit empty for a long time, as it has since 2007. Or how the Stitch space in MK is at this point. I don’t really get the sentiment that not building this is “better” than having it completed. Even if you absolutely hate it and never step foot in the building, at the very least it occupies others and takes them out of line for other attractions.

Because it will exist as this for 15-20 years if it's built. It's better to have it remain empty with the potential to build something worthy of an EPCOT pavilion; otherwise we just won't get one.

For the parks to be at their best, it's not always helpful to take up important/valuable space with mediocre/poor attractions that stick around long-term. Just look at Chester and Hester's -- that was supposed to be a temporary fill-in to help with capacity and it's still there decades later; they're just now finally talking about replacing it. If that space had remained empty at AK, we'd have likely gotten something more substantive there years ago. Once something exists, Disney generally seems to think "okay that's fine now and we don't have to think about it again for 20 years" even if it was supposed to be a short-term quick fix.

They could throw up 5 spinners in the Adventureland expansion pad and that would help capacity, but I don't think many people would be supportive of that move instead of using the area for something worthwhile.
 
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