EPCOT New Play Pavilion to replace Epcot's Wonders of Life

DreamfinderGuy

Well-Known Member
No. It sticks in my craw that disney maintained and updated the building as a festival center better than how they just let the building as the former sit and rot away with absolutely nothing new/updated since 1989. Lol
The way the ceiling in all areas of the pavilion began to mold and leak with nothing done about it (or even completely collapsing in the case of Cranium Command) would disagree with you on maintenance.
 

WondersOfLife

Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
The way the ceiling in all areas of the pavilion began to mold and leak with nothing done about it (or even completely collapsing in the case of Cranium Command) would disagree with you on maintenance.
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FigmentFan82

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Like what they had in a perfectly good building that they wasted money on demolishing?
Dude, I'm not trying to pick a fight.

I just want my kids to have a good time. I wish they didn't demolish so much, but I can't do much about that.

My main point was that a character meet isn't some trivial thing that some here make fun of. It can be really special to a kid.
 

The Aracuan Bird

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Dude, I'm not trying to pick a fight.

I just want my kids to have a good time. I wish they didn't demolish so much, but I can't do much about that.

My main point was that a character meet isn't some trivial thing that some here make fun of. It can be really special to a kid.
Sure. But using a building designed for several attractions as a glorified playground and meet and greet isn’t efficient. Epcot’s arguably the worst park when it comes to efficient use of space, and this is hardly an improvement from when Wonders was closed and Innoventions West (?) was still standing.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
Dude, I'm not trying to pick a fight.

I just want my kids to have a good time. I wish they didn't demolish so much, but I can't do much about that.

My main point was that a character meet isn't some trivial thing that some here make fun of. It can be really special to a kid.
No, I agree. No fight intended. Just pointing out what the post above this one said better.
 

brb1006

Well-Known Member
Right, forgot about him. The trio of Eisner, Wells, and Katzenberg was such a tremendous team! Literally saved the company and transformed it for better or worse into what it is today. I loved all the little things Eisner did, like intro every Wonderful World of Disney movie, or appearing in commercials or other official segments. Really help sell the image that he had plan. This is something severely lacking with Iger and Chapek.
As much as we bash Eisner, I seriously miss the days when Eisner used to appear in tons of Disney TV Specials and other media outside of just making PR statements and speeches throughout the 1990s and early 2000s.

Exhibit A



Exhibit B



And Finally Exhibit C



That's one thing that Iger and Chapek are notably lacking where they are mainly used for PR speeches. Plus Eiger's speeches are mostly serious, stern, and monotone, while Chapek's speeches comes off as awkward and forced. Compare that to Eisner's speeches being more charismatic and genuine (and a bit awkward in a charming way).
 
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trainplane3

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As much as we bash Eisner, I seriously miss the days when Eisner used to appear in tons of Disney TV Specials and other media outside of just making PR statements and speeches throughout the 1990s and early 2000s. That's one thing that Eiger and Chapek are notably lacking where they are mainly used for PR speeches. Plus Eiger's speeches are mostly serious, stern, and monotone, while Chapek's speeches comes off as awkward and forced compared to Eisner being more charismatic and genuine.
Or go to the parks. Without the white glove service. And actually experience what the guests are paying for.

It's like watching a robot during PR events. They should be fun and exciting yet you have this chrome-dome talking up the latest addition like he's reading the obituaries. Even the SWGE openings were bad and there was plenty for him to hype up.
 

brb1006

Well-Known Member
Or go to the parks. Without the white glove service. And actually experience what the guests are paying for.

It's like watching a robot during PR events. They should be fun and exciting yet you have this chrome-dome talking up the latest addition like he's reading the obituaries. Even the SWGE openings were bad and there was plenty for him to hype up.
Yeah, Iger's speeches almost puts me to sleep. And don't get me started with Chapek, I still remember his speech from D23 2019.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Or go to the parks. Without the white glove service. And actually experience what the guests are paying for.

It's like watching a robot during PR events. They should be fun and exciting yet you have this chrome-dome talking up the latest addition like he's reading the obituaries. Even the SWGE openings were bad and there was plenty for him to hype up.
You’d think some even rudimentary public speaking and acting classes would just be a requirement for the public facing leadership of an entertainment company.
 

TikibirdLand

Well-Known Member
Another member of the Cranium Command cast passes away. RIP :(

For those who don't know, he was Left Brain.

Thanks for the link. I read through all of the performances he was in. What an incredible actor! He was one that was always there, playing the father / curmudgeon / everyman role in so many movies and plays during the 70's and 80's. I'll miss Charles Grodin!
 

FigmentsBrightIdeas

Well-Known Member
Ultimately, the ‘real’
problem with Iger & Chapek is that they’re repeating the late Eisner & Pressler years simply because they were from that very same reign/management/administration. They did basically the bare minimum at “fixing” Eisner’s blunders in acquiring the companies he failed to, like Pixar, Muppets Studios, Lucasfilm, and the like.. otherwise, the synergy crap and all… that’s a repeat of the late 90s/early 00s EPCOT, just with an even tighter focus on Universal-esque film IP or celebrity focused rides that make little to no effort in actually tying into real world concepts & cultures, but rather the films’ own fictional stories with little to no real original content or a focus on the concepts they should be focused on. That, and it’s coming at the expense of original park concepts that were popular and had memorable themes & characters as-is. Making the film IP overlays completely useless. (looking at you.. pointlessly redone, Honey, I Shrunk/Medfield college themed Journey Into Imagination pavilion 👀)

What they really needed was better marketing, merchandising, & expanded exposure on park original concepts.
 
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