News New Play Pavilion to replace Epcot's Wonders of Life

[HauntedPirate]

That seems to be the only debate tactic that they know. Setting up straw men and stooping to ad hominem attacks.

They think we're all "just stuck in the past", "need to get with the times", "complain about everything Disney does", et al. We aren't, we don't, and we don't, but that's all they can do, keep repeating the same falsehoods. People trying to hold Disney to the standard THEY THEMSELVES SET decades ago makes them apoplectic. Many people these days are dumb, and you can thank 50 years of the cultural nonsense that started in the 1960's for it.

Anyway, back to the Play Pavilion...

 

[eliza61nyc]

As I've said before, throw GotG in DHS and you won't hear people complaining. If you want to continue throwing out that red herring, feel free. It only further cements the reputation you've built.

Ooohh I've got a "reputation" I don't object to people complaining and could care less if you like, dislike what's going on at Epcot, does not mean anything nor make one whit of difference , As I said before. I object to calling people "dumb". nothing misleading about that at all.

 

[Castle Cake Apologist]

They think we're all "just stuck in the past", "need to get with the times", "complain about everything Disney does", et al. We aren't, we don't, and we don't, but that's all they can do, keep repeating the same falsehoods. People trying to hold Disney to the standard THEY THEMSELVES SET decades ago makes them apoplectic. Many people these days are dumb, and you can thank 50 years of the cultural nonsense that started in the 1960's for it.

Anyway, back to the Play Pavilion...

The funniest part is that I'm actually okay with the Play Pavilion. I think of the things announced so far, it's one of the closest to being in line with Epcot's mission. This is also a way of leveraging film IP that doesn't bother me necessarily. We shall see what we actually end up with, though. The announcement was pretty vague.

 

[HauntedPirate]

The funniest part is that I'm actually okay with the Play Pavilion. I think of the things announced so far, it's one of the closest to being in line with Epcot's mission. This is also a way of leveraging film IP that doesn't bother me necessarily. We shall see,l what we actually end up with, though.

It's about 8 years too late for my family (probably about 10 by the time it opens), but it's something that's been needed at Epcot for longer than that.

 

[lazyboy97o]

lol, it's more of "He doesn't like the direction so of course the reason is people are dumb". Dumb or not, they are consumers with money to spend and they want something to do in the parks. They are not to dumb to recognize that empty buildings don't keep the kiddies happy

You keep repeating this as though there are people attached to empty facilities. Adding attractions and sticking to a theme are not mutually exclusive. Both can be done.

Disney’s position is that people who like theme parks are dumb. That people who work in theme parks are dumb, and therefore it is better to have them run by people with absolutely no prior experience.

 

[Castle Cake Apologist]

It's about 8 years too late for my family (probably about 10 by the time it opens), but it's something that's been needed at Epcot for longer than that.

My only trepidation is that this will be designed solely for children, and not for their parents to enjoy with them and participate in as well.

 

[brb1006]

Remember when this thread started out optimistic?

 

[Castle Cake Apologist]

You keep repeating this as though there are people attached to empty facilities. Adding attractions and sticking to a theme are not mutually exclusive. Both can be done.

Disney’s position is that people who like theme parks are dumb. That people who work in theme parks are dumb, and therefore it is better to have them run by people with absolutely no prior experience.

I didn't even know how to approach the empty buildings thing that she keeps repeating because I truly don't understand what she means by it.

Is she under the impression that those in favor of a unified vision for Epcot would rather have empty stagnating buildings as part of this vision? Does she think that the buildings never had anything in them before? Does she not know that the buildings are only empty in the first place because of the management style that she is defending?

These are the real questions.

 

[marni1971]

Remember when this thread started out optimistic?

I’m happy they’re keeping the building. How’s that?

 

[brb1006]

I’m happy they’re keeping the building. How’s that?

Glad the building is finally getting used again.

 

[iowamomof4]

I think it looks great! Now I'll get to watch this thread and find out why I'm wrong.

Remember when this thread started out optimistic?

 

[Castle Cake Apologist]

Remember when this thread started out optimistic?

Remember when EPCOT started out optimistic?

I know, I know. I'll see myself out.

 

[DreamfinderGuy]

It's about 8 years too late for my family (probably about 10 by the time it opens), but it's something that's been needed at Epcot for longer than that.

So the last 36 years of play places at Epcot weren’t good enough for you?

 

[GlacierGlacier]

I know that I am ----ing in the wind here, but I still say that it makes no sense that they can't use Nat Geo as an IP basis (if they need one) to bring back the "wonder" in Epcot attractions. Not to mention producing a Discovery-like television show (streaming or network, either one) at Epcot about the wonders of life and other amazing things that would build on the Epcot vision and "brand". It is still able to strong, if they let it.

They're just lazy.

There's a beautiful NatGeo experience in New York that - while it isn't actually produced by NatGeo, just branded using their IP - could be a great fit for Epcot. A beautiful place that honestly could fit in the living seas quite well, replacing the Nemo physical exhibits.

Unfortunately, I doubt something like that is in the pipeline right now. I was under the assumption that fox IP stuff was only going to begin blue-sky development once the merger actually completed.

I hope I'm wrong though.

 

[TwilightZone]

Remember when this thread started out optimistic?

Pepperage Farms remembers.

 

[HauntedPirate]

So the last 36 years of play places at Epcot weren’t good enough for you?

They never seemed to want to play on them for long. Something about them being in the sun and too hot...

 

[WondersOfLife]

Actually, I'm pretty concisely laying out my opinion and trying to clarify what is clearly a misassumption on your part (which is obviously willful ignorance at this point). You're choosing to ignore everything being said to you and needlessly throwing out insults.
So, I'd love for you to expand on your comment here. However, I'm sure I'll just get another condescending remark as you continue to ignore everything I'm saying and stoop to one of the worst debate tactics known to man. Your comment is actually humorous, because you're legitimately acting like a 12 year old. This is how children argue.

Actually, I’m a guy who doesn’t care acting like a guy who doesn’t care, while talking to someone throwing a tempe tantrum who can’t take the hint that I simply don’t care.

Epcot will become what it will become, whether you accept it or not. The difference between you and I, is I’m accepting that it will be what it will be. And I’m looking for positives and understanding instead of negatives and arguments.

 

[Bocabear]

Actually, I’m a guy who doesn’t care acting like a guy who doesn’t care, while talking to someone throwing a tempe tantrum who can’t take the hint that I simply don’t care.

Epcot will become what it will become, whether you accept it or not. The difference between you and I, is I’m accepting that it will be what it will be. And I’m looking for positives and understanding instead of negatives and arguments.

if you simply don't care, why are you even in this discussion?

 

[Castle Cake Apologist]

Actually, I’m a guy who doesn’t care acting like a guy who doesn’t care, while talking to someone throwing a tempe tantrum who can’t take the hint that I simply don’t care.

Epcot will become what it will become, whether you accept it or not. The difference between you and I, is I’m accepting that it will be what it will be. And I’m looking for positives and understanding instead of negatives and arguments.

Then perhaps it would be prudent to not argumentively insert yourself into conversations you care so little about? Ya know, since you care so little and don't want to argue? Especially with such needlessly condescending pointless posts.

/this conversation

 

[lazyboy97o]

if you simply don't care, why are you even in this discussion?

Isn’t that the million dollar question? So many people claim they don’t care about theme, but get very upset about other people wanting it. People who don’t care about theme don’t losing anything if there is a theme. People who just want cool rides can still get that with a strong theme.