New Park?

[DisneyWales]

Agree Kinda

While I agree that there is no immediate need for a 5th gate at this current time, mainly seeing as there is still room for much needed attractions at all 4 current parks (some more that others).

However I think a 5th park will make the number of parks just right, thats a full week there then.

Add logic I know, but if you travel over the weekends you get mon thru friday at the resort, one major park each day?!?

As for Disney Texas (or wherever it maybe) Disney run the risk of stealing from there current markets in FL and CA. Is it really worth them building a third US site if they potentially are only going to be attracting their current market anyway. There are only so many spins on the Magic Kingdom you can make anyway.

That is why i think the proposed site based entertainment plans are the right way forward, as it allows disney to have an identity in various locations, without pulling away from the Magic Kingdom/Theme Park markets, yet offer fans something new.

The number of times i have said the UK, and other major cities around the world, could do with something like Downtown Disney is unbelievable (as in Themed Shopping and PI).

But hey one thing we can all agree the future of Disney "park' entertainment is looking very bright whatever they plan to do.

 

[joshwill]

Yes but AK and MGM are no where as "complete" as Epcot and Mk. You cant build until the other parks are "complete" Its like opening a new park with 3 rides in it and calling it a park. Its got to have some sense of "completeness".

why? why cant they build before the other parks are complete? who is to say when they are complete? you? others in this forum? i seriously doubt that disney is going to build or not build on your, or anyone else here, say so.

now, if you replace "cant" with "shouldnt" its a different story.

 

[Scar Junior]

why? why cant they build before the other parks are complete? who is to say when they are complete? you? others in this forum? i seriously doubt that disney is going to build or not build on your, or anyone else here, say so.

now, if you replace "cant" with "shouldnt" its a different story.

Wait a second... all I'm wondering is this...

:veryconfu Are you willing to go on record as to saying that Disney's Animal Kingdom and Disney Studios are complete theme parks? :veryconfu

Everyone has their opinions. If this truly is your opinion I can honestly say I disagree with the thought that AK and DS are in a good enough position to focus on a new project first.

Your post didn't say that Disney parks are complete but it did imply that you think it is more important to grow new holdings rather than improve current holdings. I know Disney Parks is just one segment of the company, but this philosophy would tanks the stock (thus other segments of the company) if it were to operate in this fashion.

For all I know, you're right... but I just don't get your train of thought. :veryconfu

 

[Tim G]

Fisher's orriginal prediction was Feb 5.

And a part of their first attraction is already being tested...

Cars! Featuring The Ultimate Robo Coaster.

 

[M:SpilotISTC12]

now, if you replace "cant" with "shouldnt" its a different story.

Ok lets say "shouldn't" then.

 

[M:SpilotISTC12]

Your post didn't say that Disney parks are complete but it did imply that you think it is more important to grow new holdings rather than improve current holdings.

That is exactly what I am trying to say.

 

[CAMWAR]

Today is the day

Hello all,
Well today is the magical day. I will check back with you all tonight.
Go Colts!!!:animwink:

 

[joshwill]

Wait a second... all I'm wondering is this...

:veryconfu Are you willing to go on record as to saying that Disney's Animal Kingdom and Disney Studios are complete theme parks? :veryconfu

Everyone has their opinions. If this truly is your opinion I can honestly say I disagree with the thought that AK and DS are in a good enough position to focus on a new project first.

Your post didn't say that Disney parks are complete but it did imply that you think it is more important to grow new holdings rather than improve current holdings. I know Disney Parks is just one segment of the company, but this philosophy would tanks the stock (thus other segments of the company) if it were to operate in this fashion.

For all I know, you're right... but I just don't get your train of thought. :veryconfu

jeez...

lighten up and stop taking this so seriously

going on record? what the hell are you talking about? should i fill out an affidavit and bring it to a notary? sheesh

the whole point was that we should be free to discuss a new park without people like you telling us we cant because its not feasible financially or for whatever reason.

you people can really take the fun out of disney.

 

[unkadug]

jeez...

lighten up and stop taking this so seriously

going on record? what the hell are you talking about? should i fill out an affidavit and bring it to a notary? sheesh

the whole point was that we should be free to discuss a new park without people like you telling us we cant because its not feasible financially or for whatever reason.

you people can really take the fun out of disney.

If you want to discuss the possibility of a park, then take it to the imagineering section.

If you want to discuss the hard core facts of a park, then you are in the right place. But don't expect someone to disagree with you, that's what makes for an interesting discussion.

Unless you work for Disney, you DO NOT know if a park is being built.

If you do know, then you are in violation of your non-disclosure clause and you SHOULD BE FIRED!

 

[autumndawn1006]

Disney is looking ahead. Think of all the people that will come to TX to celebrate after the Saints win the Superbowl. :lookaroun
It's just a hop, skip, and a jump from N.O.

 

[Lee]

Well today is the magical day.

For what? :veryconfu

 

[Wilt Dasney]

Disney is looking ahead. Think of all the people that will come to TX to celebrate after the Saints win the Superbowl. :lookaroun

It would be quite a feat indeed for the Saints to win the Super Bowl....since...they're not playing in it. :lookaroun

 

[autumndawn1006]

Hence the phrase "looking ahead". To like 2047.
I'm well aware they're not in the Super Bowl. I'm a huge fan.

 

[Wilt Dasney]

Hence the phrase "looking ahead". To like 2047.
I'm well aware they're not in the Super Bowl. I'm a huge fan.

Duly noted. I thought you might have meant that. :lol: :wave:

 

[WDWFREAK53]

I'm curious...when is a park "complete?"

People are saying that MGM and DAK aren't "complete" parks...

If this is the case...then MK and Epcot ARE complete parks?

Hmm...ask any preteener what they feel about World Showcase. Epcot is definitely NOT a complete park.

MGM has enough to do to keep you for a full day (based on shows and Fantasmic) so it's not the amount of time to get through the attractions that is the basis of a "complete park."

Were Epcot and the Magic Kingdom "complete" parks before MGM was built? Was MGM a complete park before DAK was built?

Each and ever park has its flaws...some more than others but NONE of the parks are "complete." The Magic Kingdom is the most "complete" of all of the parks.

Why they're not complete:
Magic Kingdom:
1. Needs more sit-down restaurants.
2. That vacant 20K site is just not right.
3. Live-action shows would be nice.
4. Mickey's Toontown Fair needs an overhaul.
5. Tomorrowland needs an overhaul.

Epcot:
1. Wonders of Life is vacant.
2. Universe of Energy is WAY too time consuming for one of the most boring attractions at all of WDW.
3. Imag needs to be redone...HISTA is too old and Figgy's ride is even overlooked by the kids.
4. World Showcase needs at least ONE attraction on the other side of the lagoon. (I mean a ride or live show).

MGM:
1. This entire park aside from Sunset Blvd is a mess.

(I wouldn't mind if they completely closed this park down for 4-5 years and redid the entire park). I've said it before...a movie-themed park with lands based on movie genres would give it a more "theme-park" feel rather than the "oh this use to be a real studio at one time" feel.

DAK:
1. This park is getting there...but some "family attractions" need to be put in. Is there one ride (aside from the Safari) that can be enjoyed by the entire family?

 

[Wilt Dasney]

2. Universe of Energy is WAY too time consuming for one of the most boring attractions at all of WDW.

*joins the Save Ellen picket line*

Oh, there's not one? Fine...

*STARTS Save Ellen picket line*


Seriously, I like that ride.

 

[unkadug]

*joins the Save Ellen picket line*

Oh, there's not one? Fine...

*STARTS Save Ellen picket line*


Seriously, I like that ride.

Me too... joins line :wave:

 

[autumndawn1006]

I'm with you guys. UOE is one of the few educational rides left.

 

[ImagineerAndy]

I'm curious...when is a park "complete?"

People are saying that MGM and DAK aren't "complete" parks...

If this is the case...then MK and Epcot ARE complete parks?

Hmm...ask any preteener what they feel about World Showcase. Epcot is definitely NOT a complete park.

MGM has enough to do to keep you for a full day (based on shows and Fantasmic) so it's not the amount of time to get through the attractions that is the basis of a "complete park."

Were Epcot and the Magic Kingdom "complete" parks before MGM was built? Was MGM a complete park before DAK was built?

Each and ever park has its flaws...some more than others but NONE of the parks are "complete." The Magic Kingdom is the most "complete" of all of the parks.

Why they're not complete:
Magic Kingdom:
1. Needs more sit-down restaurants.
2. That vacant 20K site is just not right.
3. Live-action shows would be nice.
4. Mickey's Toontown Fair needs an overhaul.
5. Tomorrowland needs an overhaul.

Epcot:
1. Wonders of Life is vacant.
2. Universe of Energy is WAY too time consuming for one of the most boring attractions at all of WDW.
3. Imag needs to be redone...HISTA is too old and Figgy's ride is even overlooked by the kids.
4. World Showcase needs at least ONE attraction on the other side of the lagoon. (I mean a ride or live show).

MGM:
1. This entire park aside from Sunset Blvd is a mess.

(I wouldn't mind if they completely closed this park down for 4-5 years and redid the entire park). I've said it before...a movie-themed park with lands based on movie genres would give it a more "theme-park" feel rather than the "oh this use to be a real studio at one time" feel.

DAK:
1. This park is getting there...but some "family attractions" need to be put in. Is there one ride (aside from the Safari) that can be enjoyed by the entire family?

None of the Disney parks will ever be "complete", to say something is complete implies nothing else needs to be added only maintained. From a purely business perspective, Disney needs to add new products at least every other year to attract new guests. From a creative standpoint, all of the Disney parks encompass Walt Disney's dream, a place that would never be finished as long as there is imagination left in the world.

 

[marni1971]

Me too... joins line (Ellen) :wave:

Make the most of it :wave:

There`s two ways to look at an `incomplete` park - one that is built up, but still has room (MK, Epcot) and one built small to be expanded (MGM and DAK) - EPCOT was built to be expanded (indeed, the park as we know it could still be plussed another 20% using original plans) as was the MK (Tomorrowland - before opening day the plans were on paper for 1975, though not exactly how it ended up)

Having said that, there are at least 3 major areas in the parks intended to be removed easily as and when needed, and just because something that cost a lot of money is completed dosn`t mean it can`t be totally removed. Horizons was a good example.

DAK and MGM were built small, with every intention of plussing. Beastly Kingdomme didn`t happen - but was a nod away from happening. MGM was always going to expand; it was an official half day park. Muppet Studios was to be first, coming 1991, but circumstances changed and Sunset was accelerated instead. EDLSCA are on record as saying WDSP was planned as a 6 hour park - with every intention to expand once the existing facilities and infrastructure need it.

The parks will never be `finished` - they may need 2 or more days to see everything at a good pace, so in that sense take on the feel of `complete`, but the past 35 and 50 years have shown there will always be something new to see.